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/asg/ Airsoft General Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)02:16 UTC+1 No.443930 Report

Intelligent conversation edition!
>Newbie FAQ
http://pastebin.com/WQtUgznd
Keep /k/ in >>>/k/

Haven't seen asg in awhile so I figured I'd make one.
Topic: Where did you play your first airsoft game at and what kind of airsoft gun did you use?
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)02:41 UTC+1 No.444150 Report

>>443930
My first game was on a speedsoft field some friends had constructed on an abandoned church softball field because we had no real fields around us, but we were all interested in the game. It was as ghetto as one can imagine, but it was fun for to start out with. I started out with a Wally World S32 Crosman shotgun and P30 springer pistol combo which were gifted to me. They were next to useless so I went out that weekend and purchased a Cybergun Thompson from the not-so local airsoft shop. No regrets.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)10:56 UTC+1 No.445006 Report

>>443930
>didn't even check the catalog
>>434570
2048 captcha
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)16:22 UTC+1 No.445134 Report

>>445006
My understanding is that we make a new thread after the old one hits page 8 so we can post some actual content before it gets swamped with shitposting.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)16:42 UTC+1 No.445145 Report

>>445134
>>443930
>having time to make quality posts in /asg/

You know the thread literally turns into 96% pure shitposting after 6 posts, right?
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)17:27 UTC+1 No.445177 Report

>>443930
Ukrainian airsofter here.
My first game was W40K larp, where i was playing medic. I used gas powered non-blowback beretta 92 (KJW?)
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)17:36 UTC+1 No.445191 Report

>>445177
>W40K larp

Please tell us more!
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)18:34 UTC+1 No.445237 Report

>>445145
I can dream, can't I?
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)18:37 UTC+1 No.445241 Report

Because the last one's on autosage...

Finally managed to modify my ICS!

Only things that are missing are...
- Madbull 16" dissipator outer barrel
- Recoloring the stock in TAN
- Maybe a new flash hider, any suggestions?

r8 muh rifle?

Also to everyone thinking about getting an ICS:
They're okay, but a BITCH to modify on the body. Many parts need to be modified to fit on the ICS (had to file down the pistol grip for example). They're known to have problems with mil-spec delta rings (I used an Element Delta Ring assembly, it works perfectly!).

Internally, the only parts that are not V2 standard conform are the hop-up chamber and anti-reversal latch.
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Loadout Guy 06/30/14(Mon)18:54 UTC+1 No.445255 Report

>>445177
>W40K Larp
>LARP
>Not re-enacting the battles that will come when the Impreium of Man discovers us
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:13 UTC+1 No.445271 Report

>>445255
Better than nothing, right?
>>445191
Well, it is nice lvl game. I am trying to add some links to photoalbums, but system considers them as a spam :(
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Loadout Guy 06/30/14(Mon)19:20 UTC+1 No.445276 Report

>>445271
All jokes aside, it's a great idea. Hope you have some good pics to show us.

Any pics of your gear?
Do you guys just do Imperial Guard vs Orks or something different?
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:35 UTC+1 No.445285 Report

>>445276
>Hope you have some good pics to show us
I do.
>Do you guys just do Imperial Guard vs Orks or something different?
On this game it was loyal camp (IG, civilians, a little bit of inquisition and aristocracy) and disloyal (Blood Pact, cultists, and other traitors)
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:41 UTC+1 No.445288 Report

>>445285
Man i'd have fucking FUN playing that shit.
>be well paid
>save up plenty of disposable income
>purchase replica Space Marine armor
>run around in safe zone squirting people with water screaming "DROWN IN THE EMPERORS TEARS HERETIC."
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:43 UTC+1 No.445290 Report

>>445276
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:44 UTC+1 No.445292 Report

>>445288
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:46 UTC+1 No.445293 Report

Hope i wont be banned for this lol
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Loadout Guy 06/30/14(Mon)19:48 UTC+1 No.445295 Report

>>445293
Why would you be?
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:51 UTC+1 No.445299 Report

>>445295
Dunno, i dont know local posting rules.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:53 UTC+1 No.445303 Report

>>445299
Does it shoot 6mm PVC BB? then it goes here.
Also you've posted better pics than most of the people that post in /asg/
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)19:59 UTC+1 No.445311 Report

>>445271
>>445285
>>445290
>>445292
>>445293

That looks like so much fun!
Airsoft and 40k cosplay are made for eachother it seems.
One of the guys I met during my last game had a really well done Tanith First and Only outfit.
It would be so cool to have a whole team dressed up like that fighting Blood Pact.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:04 UTC+1 No.445319 Report

>>445303
Lol.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:06 UTC+1 No.445323 Report

>>445319
Cultist
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:07 UTC+1 No.445326 Report

>>445323
Ecclesiarchy
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:08 UTC+1 No.445327 Report

>>445326
Almost forgot about Adeptus Arbites
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:09 UTC+1 No.445331 Report

>>445311
Are there W40K larps where you from?
Here is Blood Pact
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:10 UTC+1 No.445334 Report

IG, Comissar, Kasrkin and Dialogus Sister.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:14 UTC+1 No.445335 Report

>>445334
>>445331
>>445327
>>445326
>>445323
>>445319
>No space marines
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:16 UTC+1 No.445336 Report

>>445334
Officer of the planetary defence forces
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:18 UTC+1 No.445337 Report

>>445335
>No Tau
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:19 UTC+1 No.445338 Report

>>445337
>No Orks
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Loadout Guy 06/30/14(Mon)20:23 UTC+1 No.445342 Report

>>445336

Man, I really love warhammer.
I've got an inquisition patch on my MBSS, no-one ever knows what it's from though.

>desire to play Warhammer 40K: SPESS MEHREENS intensifies
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:42 UTC+1 No.445349 Report

Lasgun prototype. The gun inside i g36c.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)20:43 UTC+1 No.445351 Report

Serial model. Fiberglass.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:10 UTC+1 No.445367 Report

>>445331
I'm sure there is some 40k cosplay going on in the Netherlands.
Warhammer has been popular for a long time but airsoft has only recently started to emerge from obscurity.
Who knows, I might be the one to pioneer Dutch 40K airsoft.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:14 UTC+1 No.445371 Report

>>445331
Needs more grotesque masks and facial scars but overall bretty gud.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:18 UTC+1 No.445372 Report

I'm surrounded by cosplay nerds. O_O
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:22 UTC+1 No.445375 Report

>>445372
Eh, yeah.

Airsofting is filled with cosplayers.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:22 UTC+1 No.445376 Report

>>445372
>0_0
this thread is cancerous enough without summer, fuck off
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:26 UTC+1 No.445380 Report

>>445241
fucking awesome looking 10/10
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:27 UTC+1 No.445381 Report

Second hand DBOYS M4 CQB SD in the workshop. Opening it for the first time. Selector plate is kill but everything else looks fine.
It's missing the front sight.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:27 UTC+1 No.445385 Report

>>445375
And this is a surprise to you?

Honestly, I'd say any person with a loadout based on a real military/police force, or some fictional character (such as an umbrella corp. trooper) qualify as cosplayers.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)21:29 UTC+1 No.445388 Report

>>445385
Misquote or did you misunderstand my post?
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)22:08 UTC+1 No.445426 Report

>>445381
That cylinder looks so fucking crappy.

Get some Troy styled BUIS battlesights
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)22:38 UTC+1 No.445452 Report

>>445426
Got a crappy replica on mine >>445241 of the rear sight, it lays uneven on the rail, but somehow it's not really noticeable while aiming...
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)22:49 UTC+1 No.445466 Report

>>445452
Yeah usually happens with chinese replicas, but hey this is airsoft, having top notch sighting devices is useless, unless you are a collector.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)23:15 UTC+1 No.445500 Report

>>445426
Not buying more sights, sorry
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Loadout Guy 06/30/14(Mon)23:23 UTC+1 No.445507 Report

>>445500
Do you really find higher zoom sights to be useful in airsoft?
I've never used anything with a zoom on an airsoft gun simply because it really doesn't make any sense to have a 4x on a weapon that only has an effective range of a few hundred meters.
Anyone with good eyesight can engage at that distance.
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Anonymous 06/30/14(Mon)23:47 UTC+1 No.445540 Report

>>445500
Whatever the only true sights will always be ironsights.


>>445507
Yeah they are useful, I have a 3-12x40 sight and for the sniper role is pretty useful, for a standard rifleman just stick to 4x or less, and it will serve as a binocular.
But aiming is pretty much easier with ironsights or reflex sights
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)00:16 UTC+1 No.445569 Report

>spring
>piston
>piston head
>gears

Anything I forgot on my upgrade list? It's my first attempt at upgrading an AEG so any tips would be helpful.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)01:10 UTC+1 No.445704 Report

>>445569
For me, first upgrades always are barrel, whole hop-up unit and better quality BBs. Then you can proceed with the gearbox

>>445507
Bad eyesight makes me 'need' 4x (both SUSAT and ACOG replicas are 4x) for engaging at open fields.
I do play with iron sights on the L85A2 Carbine as it's my main CQB weapon. Although 19-to-21mm rail adaptor is coming from China already for the ACOG.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)02:52 UTC+1 No.446295 Report

>>445569
>>445704
I agree with that guy. Get a high quality bucking to replace the chink one and a steel tight bore in 6.03. Next I'd replace the gears and piston, followed by the piston head. If you're going for field get at least an m120 spring with a high torque motor and if you're going for CQB get a high speed motor with an m100 spring.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)07:26 UTC+1 No.446948 Report

>>446295
It always depends on what's wrong with the gun, it's now always the bucking and barrel, well if you get a Chinese aeg, sure, those two should be replaced ASAP
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)09:29 UTC+1 No.447024 Report

>>446948
The gearbox internals can handle stock speeds fine, but if you want more fps and install a stronger spring the stock gears will probably suffer as well as the motor.
Just remember more fps don't translate directly into more range, as a good bucking+nub will improve your range and accuracy in those ranges.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)09:43 UTC+1 No.447036 Report

>>447024
But some are obsessed with fps, I don't know how your fields do but in here if it's a serious field if you get over the fps limit, even if it's only by 1 they won't let you play with that.

The perfect example of power <> accuracy is Tokyo Marui, 280 fps and they run perfectly.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)09:52 UTC+1 No.447044 Report

>>447036
TM are one of the few brand you don't even have to upgrade to be competitive.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)09:54 UTC+1 No.447047 Report

>>447044
They are getting to 350 fps with the Recoil Shock series, those are so fucking awesome. I had a great time trying the SCAR-L, god even Travis Haley talked about them.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)09:57 UTC+1 No.447050 Report

>>447047
Doesn't he have a video with his real steel and airsoft replica with the exact setup?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)10:20 UTC+1 No.447070 Report

>>447050
>Real steel
Never liked these words together, but yeah he does.

The recoil on those is kinda like what you feel when firing a .22lr rifle, it's quite satisfying, the only thing I do not like is the fact that it uses propietary internals and mags.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)17:05 UTC+1 No.447181 Report

>>445388
Yeah, sorry, it was meant for >>445372.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)18:53 UTC+1 No.447213 Report

>>447036
>>447047
I've been fascinated with them, myself. So TMs can shoot long range, but at that FPS, do you think the guy can feel the hit (like for example, 100ft)?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)19:34 UTC+1 No.447231 Report

>>445540
You'd get used to an Eotech really quick.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)20:02 UTC+1 No.447251 Report

>>447231
Yeah to a real one maybe, the airsoft ones are always reflex sights so it's the same, it always depends on the quality not the shape.
I would like getting a Trijicon SRS replica, those looks really cool. (pic related)

>>447213
Yes of course you feel it, it's not like if a sniper hits you but surely you will nottice, and if he didn't nottice you can always put the fun switch on, TM usually has some very nice ROF out of the box, specially the High Cycle ones
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)20:14 UTC+1 No.447261 Report

http://www.evike.com/products/39970/

Been wanting to get into airsoft for a while. Is this a good purchase to start with?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)20:37 UTC+1 No.447279 Report

>>447261
>a good purchase
Yes
>a good purchase to start with
HELL NO

Anon, the ebr is very heavy, if you like the M14 platform go for the SOCOM 16 one
http://www.evike.com/products/31800/
But whatever you do, you will end up buying an AR, that's the sad truth :(

Which models you like and how much you want to spend?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:08 UTC+1 No.447296 Report

>>447279
Well that price difference is a great bonus, but you said the EBR is heavy when that SOCOM 16 weighs over a kilogram more. (Though I'm sure I won't mind the weight when it's a hundred fucking dollars cheaper)

I'm not quite sure what other models be interested in, my parents didn't support weapons of any kind ever so I never became interested in any. Besides the M14, maybe the M1 or some kind puff bullpup rifle?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:13 UTC+1 No.447299 Report

>>447296
*other models I'd be interested in

Also, my budget can't really exceed ~$250
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:17 UTC+1 No.447301 Report

>>447296
The thing is that the EBR is very front heavy balance is more important than overall weight.
The M1 is quite expensive... but if you can afford ir why not.
As for the Bullpup, if you like the AUG, APS makes a very cool one:
http://www.evike.com/products/44274/
Also from APS there is the UAR, which is kinda like the Radon MSBS:
http://www.evike.com/products/41551/
If not Jing Gong makes another AUG, and last but not least you could go for a Sportsline Tavor, I'm not a big fan of the build quality of this one tho:
http://www.evike.com/products/41551/
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:37 UTC+1 No.447308 Report

>>447279
>You'll wind up with an AR

>Implying the AK isn't the superior platform for airsoft with it's superior V3 gearbox design, higher mag capacity for both hi-caps and mid-caps, and better hop-up out of the box.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:47 UTC+1 No.447311 Report

>>447308
For upgrades and making a custom build, the ar is much more modular, and actually yes the v3 is much better, but the v7 is the best gearbox, so the m14 would be the proper choice and it has quite high capacity mags both mid and high caps
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:48 UTC+1 No.447312 Report

>>447308
>superior V3 gearbox design
>being this new to airsoft tech
V2 has always been the superior design. They were forced to design V3 to fit into awkwardly-shaped guns the V2 couldn't fit into, and is therefore designed awkwardly and less gud.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:49 UTC+1 No.447313 Report

>>447308
>this guy actually thinks just because it's number 3 and 3 comes after 2 it automatically must be more advanced
TOP FUCKING KEK
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:53 UTC+1 No.447316 Report

>>447261
>>447279
Goddamn the M14 is sexy
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:58 UTC+1 No.447317 Report

>>447313
>>447312
Look at all of these butthurt AR fags failing to acknowledge that the V3 can handle more abuse than the V2 simply because it is better reinforced and has the motor attached directly to the gearbox keeping it always where it should be. V2 gearboxes will crack on high FPS builds long before the V3 strips a piston/busts the gears.

>More upgrade/replacement parts available does not equate to a better design.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)21:58 UTC+1 No.447318 Report

Re posting
What's the rarest gun you own /asg/?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:03 UTC+1 No.447320 Report

>>447318
pp-19 bizon but I'm too lazy to take a picture of it.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:03 UTC+1 No.447321 Report

>>447320
AEG?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:06 UTC+1 No.447324 Report

>>447321
Yes, made by silverback (the only manufacturer yet, and it's the only thing they make that is not an accessory). It also has a serial number near the trigger, mine is 200.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:08 UTC+1 No.447326 Report

>>447318
I think it's Marushin's NBB M1 Carbine. At least, it's very rare here in Ukraine.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:15 UTC+1 No.447329 Report

>>447326
issn't the Ukraine cold. Everyone has guns. and smells like soup?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:15 UTC+1 No.447330 Report

>>447317
>look at these butthurts who think the v2 is better simply because of these reasons that it is better
haha what
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:19 UTC+1 No.447332 Report

>>447320
How the fuck do you load that thing?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:20 UTC+1 No.447333 Report

>>447318
I've heard these ones are simply an M16 on the inside, even the mags are, they are just beefed up
>>447326
Amazing gun!
>>447332
That thing similar to a handguard is an helicoidal mag, kinda like the one the Calicos have.
My two rarest guns are my G&G LR300, which I haven't seen many and my Tokyo Marui Desert Eagle
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:20 UTC+1 No.447334 Report

>>447332
The magazine?
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:28 UTC+1 No.447336 Report

>>447318
None of my AEGs or GBBs are particularly rare, but I do have a very rare springer- The Toystar M4A1. Toystar made AMAZING spring powered replicas back in the day. I imported this one directly from Korea.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:30 UTC+1 No.447337 Report

>>447330
Given the examples I put forth to support my argument, it's clear you have no clue what the difference is between a V2 and a V3 gearbox, nor can you properly read English.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)22:30 UTC+1 No.447338 Report

>>447333
They are. It's just an m4 in an EXTREMELY heavy and well made body, I plan on beefing it up internally as much as possible and making it the gun it should be out of the box.

The biggest pro is because it's so damn heavy. It's very stable. no wobble. you can shoot a fly's ass from 30 feet away if your hopup is ajusted right
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)23:50 UTC+1 No.447360 Report

>>447337
Hahahahaha 0/10 try harder. And this time, don't get butthurt.
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)23:51 UTC+1 No.447361 Report

>>447337
>given what i said
>it's clear what you know
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)23:53 UTC+1 No.447363 Report

>>447318
STAR L85A2 Carbine, which I've just taken apart to upgrade bucking, barrel and install a mosfet
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Anonymous 07/01/14(Tue)23:55 UTC+1 No.447365 Report

>>447363
>Pic related
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)00:33 UTC+1 No.447387 Report

>>447360
>>447361
I'm not mad. I have an M4 and an AK. I'm actually that you don't understand that a V2 doesn't have the motor attached directly to the gearbox via the motor cage which is an improvement the V3 has over the V2 since the motors on most V2 driven guns sit in the pistol grip and may wobble around in this configuration. It's sad that you don't understand that the V2's shell has a tendency to crack towards the front between the piston and the nozzle, especially on high fps builds. The V3 is slightly more elongated and has a reinforcing plate on top of the gearbox to alleviate this issue.
Pic related. It's a cracked v2.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)00:46 UTC+1 No.447391 Report

>>447387
Wow calm down, madfag. The V2 is better, and all the things you just said aren't even a little true. Is this your first week of airsoft or something?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)01:04 UTC+1 No.447409 Report

>>447391
You've yet to say anything to prove that the V2 is better besides its shape which doesn't make a bit of difference as to the gun's function. What makes the V2 better? Give me something besides
>muh parts availability
>muh customization

It's been proven time and time again that you can upgrade the V3 just as much as the V2. If anything they're equals.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)01:16 UTC+1 No.447421 Report

>>447318
You guys wanna know something really ridiculous?

This one time when I was in the safe zone, some guy brought out a Barret with a P* fusion engine installed. When we were out in the field, the guy was standing straight up in a trench taking pot shots at us. It was stupid how effective the thing was. We all saw him, but we didn't have any range on him.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)02:03 UTC+1 No.447453 Report

>>447409
I never said parts availability or customization.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)02:04 UTC+1 No.447454 Report

>>447421
Then your guns suck lol.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)02:11 UTC+1 No.447459 Report

>>447453
Still waiting on some proof.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)02:18 UTC+1 No.447462 Report

>>447459
That's nice. I'm eating Mexican food.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)07:36 UTC+1 No.447695 Report

>best gearbox
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)07:48 UTC+1 No.447705 Report

>>447695
>Plastic
Utterly Disgusting.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)08:36 UTC+1 No.447749 Report

>>447695
oh shit nigger what the fuck are you doing
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)08:43 UTC+1 No.447751 Report

Rare guns parade goes on.
AGM Sten customized by previous owner. Wooden stock also included.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)08:44 UTC+1 No.447752 Report

>>447329
Sounds more like far east Russia.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)08:52 UTC+1 No.447753 Report

>>447695
Not by a long shot

>>447751
Woa, post more pics, it seems to be a pretty well made custom
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:04 UTC+1 No.447756 Report

>>447753
Done.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:07 UTC+1 No.447757 Report

Next kewl gun. TM Vz61.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:21 UTC+1 No.447758 Report

>>447757
Meh, I've seen better ones.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:25 UTC+1 No.447759 Report

>>447758
Mine is more authentic :3
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:28 UTC+1 No.447761 Report

>>447759
Yeah, most likely.

Not my gun though, belongs to a guy who plays at the same field. Great guy, gives zero fucks.

Once executed the protection target during a game because the guy wouldn't shut up.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:30 UTC+1 No.447762 Report

>>447756
Impressive without a doubt, did you do it by yourself?

>>447757
>>447758
KWA is making a GBB Skoprion, finally another one as the Maruzen Skorpion was quite hard to find.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:30 UTC+1 No.447763 Report

Next!
>>447761
He really plays with bayonet?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:31 UTC+1 No.447764 Report

>>447761
Sometimes it needs to be done...
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:31 UTC+1 No.447765 Report

>>447762
No, it was made by previous owner of the gun.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:31 UTC+1 No.447766 Report

>>443930
I was into airsoft before, any sport that relies on the honesty of competitive people is kinda flawed.
Paintball is a bit better at least, but still like that. It could be that I was going to bad places, do you guys play in 18 and over leagues or something?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:39 UTC+1 No.447769 Report

>>447763
Not digging the grip panels but it's a cool collectors item.

>>447766
Without a doubt +18, kids are kids, luckily in here most of players are +25
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:40 UTC+1 No.447770 Report

>>447763
Not attached to a gun no. This was just a ridiculous build he felt like making.

>>447766
Can't buy guns unless 18 here so fields become 18+ automatically. Mostly 20-25.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)09:54 UTC+1 No.447779 Report

>>447770
>>447769
Do you guys have experience playing with teenagers before? How does play with adults compare? Do you still get shitty arguments all the time?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)10:02 UTC+1 No.447786 Report

>>447779
>Do you still get shitty arguments all the time?
Not all the time but it always happens something. Some teenagers are ok, but I preffer avoiding that, specially when they are like
>DOOD I KILLED 3 WITH HEADSHOT LOLOL
It not only depends on the age tho, the social background is also important.
I usually play with serious groups, I like it and it makes the game more challenging, this way we usually get rid of the "YOU ARE NOT CALLING YOUR HITS" discussions (usually)

The only problem with "pros" is that they think that because they have better gun/gear they are superior or better players, younger players tend to be more humble, at least in here.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)10:05 UTC+1 No.447790 Report

>>447786
Yeah I remember the "pros" being dicks, they called their hits for sure, but they were also really aggressive at calling out people who didn't. But to be honest they were usually right, it was the butthurt 14-16 year olds who accused everything in their path of not calling hits.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)10:10 UTC+1 No.447795 Report

>>447790
14-16yo seems unacceptable for me, +16 is where they start to use their brain.
I've played with the kids of my friends and was too much of a deal becuase they were educated propperly on airsoft, shit happens when they are cowadooty ratkids.
The thing with adults is that you can talk to them, share a beer and have some laughs after the match.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)10:46 UTC+1 No.447817 Report

>>447795
this is somewhat encouraging, i'll have to get back into it
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)10:47 UTC+1 No.447819 Report

>>447817
Think about it, airsoft is the experience, not only shooting bbs arround
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)14:25 UTC+1 No.447875 Report

Are there any guys from Scotland post in these threads. I just heard about the 1 joule limit being placed on air-guns is that going to affect us as well?

http://www.ai-mag.com/blog/2014/05/16/scottish-parliament-proposes-new-air-weapon-legislation/
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)14:51 UTC+1 No.447889 Report

>>447875
the Loadout Tripfag Guy is based in Scotland IIRC.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)15:50 UTC+1 No.447893 Report

>>447758
>thisgun

topkek, how much power?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)15:52 UTC+1 No.447896 Report

>>447318
Is that a Snow Wolf?

If yes:
>turn on full retard
>put on a grenade launcher
>xXx720MLGNOSCOPE420ERRYDAIxXx erryone
>???
>profit

Still, a sweet gun, I'm thinking about getting a M95, although it's civilian pleb shit.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)15:55 UTC+1 No.447898 Report

>>447279
>implying CYMA's never a good start

They're outmatching Marui nowadays with full metal bodies and partially better internals. Look no further if you want a durable beginners gun.

If you want a reliable AR-15, you should go for CA, G&P, G&G, and ICS (if you're really up for customizing a lot for external parts).
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:00 UTC+1 No.447900 Report

http://youtu.be/Ul3A9sqAvmY?t=23s
Only missing the siren
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:04 UTC+1 No.447901 Report

>>447898
Who the fuck said that? The EBR is an awfull gun to start with. If you read a bit more you'll see I suggested him the CYMA SOCOM 16.

>>447900
This was amazing.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:36 UTC+1 No.447912 Report

>>447901
Why that? CYMA uses the G&G GB design, and low/mid-caps are affordable.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:37 UTC+1 No.447913 Report

I've heard that the Dboys Kar98K is shit.
Is this true? I'd rather hear it from you guys.

http://www.taiwangun.com/en/wwii01-kar98k-w-boyi?from=listing&campaign-id=19
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:46 UTC+1 No.447918 Report

>>447912
And it's heavy as Fuck, a new player won't truly enjoy the EBR. If you really like the EBR I would rather wait and get the G&G one which is better balanced and you really get what you are paying.
I doubt he'll start being a designated marksman, and the EBR is not too good for 'assault'
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:52 UTC+1 No.447920 Report

>>447918
>heavy
My M16's heavy as well.
>EBR
M14's are also used as assault rifles (rarely though).
>G&G
They got nice bodies, but the balancing won't do shit, as we won't notice it, and G&G doesn't use better internals than Marui or CYMA.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:56 UTC+1 No.447921 Report

>>447913
It is shit but it is a cool wall hanger.
The thing is that the bolt does not work too well and it usually malfunctions and jams .
If you like it buy it but you won't be using it too much because of the shell ejecting thing, tho it's pretty cheap

>>447920
I've played with both and you do notice when hours pass. The m16 is indeed heavy too, but not as much, in never recommended it, in was talking about the SOCOM16, the 16 inch variant of the m14
Look it's all about personal preference, he asked for opinions and he got them, I've had a TM m14 and used it as assault rifle for a while and gets too heavy.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:58 UTC+1 No.447923 Report

>>447921
Replace some ins with I s, damn mobile keyboard.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)16:59 UTC+1 No.447924 Report

>>447921
On forums they said that the hopup is shit and the barrel consists out of 2 pieces, and that the sear tends to break.
Any truth in that ? And how does it malfunction ?
One some chinkshit website that also sells them it is mentioned to read the manual because of how to work the bolt, that it is different and requires some getting used to.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)17:07 UTC+1 No.447930 Report

>>447921
>TM M14
>heavy
>mysides.jpg

Sorry, but you really found it heavy? I've held it in my hands, and it was one of the lightest rifles I had in my hands, only matched by the TM G36C or M4.

If you want a heavy rifle, get a G&G M14 or similar.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)17:19 UTC+1 No.447937 Report

>>447930
4kg and long, it gets heavy, yeah sure it feels pretty light but when you carry it for hours you really start noticing the weight, add to it the bipod and a big ass sight and then shit gets worse.
The EBR is heavy, we agree right? Then better not recommend it to a newbie
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)18:06 UTC+1 No.447965 Report

Oh my my! Look at what's coming home with me
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:29 UTC+1 No.447998 Report

>>447896
No. It's the Socom gear, you can tell because it's not jet black like the Snow Wolf
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:30 UTC+1 No.447999 Report

>>447965
40mm grenades are always welcome.
Tested out my MadBull 40mm CO2 ones last sunday. They're pretty fun and always draw a lot of attention.
>>447913
It's a shit airsoft game rifle, but it's a cool replica and nice wall hanger.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:31 UTC+1 No.448000 Report

>>447766
>I was into airsoft before, any sport that relies on the honesty of competitive people is kinda flawed.
That's why you should take it as a hobby more than a sport.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:32 UTC+1 No.448002 Report

>>447937
Anon asking about the EBR here, back a day later because I'm autistic.
I am pretty interested in that SOCOM 16, especially because it's much cheaper than the EBR, same for the AUG, trying to decide between the two, though I still would like to have that EBR, it just looks so good
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:32 UTC+1 No.448003 Report

>>447999
>shit airsoft game rifle

I can understand that, my intent is to use it for backyard plinking.
But in what way is it shit ?
Does it break easily or anything, or do you mean shit in the way of, having to pick up shells, only having a 5 BB capacity and all ?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:32 UTC+1 No.448004 Report

>>447889
Look at you, all tsundere for Loadout Guy.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:37 UTC+1 No.448005 Report

>>448003
That too, but it's also very delicate, you have to learn to bolt it just the right way - too slow can cause it to jam, too fast and it'll also jam and you'll fucking crush the shell because it's kind of soft.
The range is around 20 metres, it's very hard (or even impossible) to tune for something better. Also the accuracy is pretty meh.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:38 UTC+1 No.448006 Report

>>448005
Ok thanks for telling me.
I'm kind of looking for a decent yet cheap bolt action rifle with metal internals.
Any suggestions ?
I keep seeing cheap rifles from Well but I have no idea if that is shit or not.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:41 UTC+1 No.448008 Report

>>448006
Decent base for upgrades, but ootb... Meh
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:43 UTC+1 No.448009 Report

>>448006
Well, MB-02, Well L96, A&K SVD, VSR-compatible chinese knock offs are all cheap and good base for tuning, from what I've read.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:43 UTC+1 No.448011 Report

>>447999
>nice trips
Shit camera focused the background.
I actually bought a 407mm 6.02mm tightbore barrel for the L85.
I'm not a fan of adding even more weight to an already heavy replica
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:47 UTC+1 No.448014 Report

>>448011
>not making it as heavy as possible
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:47 UTC+1 No.448015 Report

>>448011
>I'm not a fan of adding even more weight to an already heavy replica
Well, I turned my light G36c into a front heavy G36k then added a Grenade Launcher which turned it around 5 kilos.
I'm looking forward to getting a F2000 and carrying the GL on my back with my DIY standalone GL mount.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:51 UTC+1 No.448017 Report

Any feedback on this thing ?
http://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152203063-MB4404A-sniper-rifle-replica.html
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:55 UTC+1 No.448020 Report

>>448017
Looks great, try to find if it's VSR compatible, if it is, you're good to go.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)19:58 UTC+1 No.448024 Report

>>448020
Kind of looking for something that will be good out of the box for the backyard plinking, aside from a scope and maybe a cheap bipod, I don't really want to add much.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)20:03 UTC+1 No.448029 Report

>>448024
I've heard this
http://www.taiwangun.com/aeg-svd-a-k
is pretty much a great beginner's sniper rifle, because.
Also this
http://gunfire.pl/product-pol-1152189572-Replika-karabinu-snajperskiego-MB-02G-Black-Well-.html
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)20:06 UTC+1 No.448031 Report

>>448029
Shit, meant WARRIOR I (L96) by Well instead of the second one.
It's one of those most popular spring rifles over here
http://forum.wmasg.pl/topic/40592-oficjalny-warrior-i-l96-well/
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)20:07 UTC+1 No.448034 Report

>>448029
Already have a dragunov and I find that the Well rifle looks like a potato in my opinion. Also the description says that some mechanical parts are made of plastic.
I'm looking for something that is full metal on both the in- and outside. Except for the body of course.
But I don't know how to find something in a decent price range.

>>448031
B-But I hate the L96, it's popular as fuck here too, my cousin had one and we tested it, the one he had went pretty far and was decently accurate, I'll admit that though ...
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)20:15 UTC+1 No.448040 Report

What about this one ?
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/sniper-rifles/snow-wolf-vsr-10-metal-barrel-sniper-w-scope-bipod-sw-10b-bk.html#.U7RZm7H-CUk
I'll have to find a shop in Europe though, them import costs are ridiculous, but how about the internals, are they all metal ?
Are magazines easily available ?
I don't want to modify the thing.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)20:26 UTC+1 No.448046 Report

>>448040
I'm trying to choose between a VSR-10 Clone from either Snow Wolf or Well.

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/sniper-rifles/well-vsr-10-bolt-action-spring-rifle-w-bipod-and-scope-black.html#.U7RZYLH-CUk

Which one is of better quality ?
Any Pros and Cons ?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:31 UTC+1 No.448081 Report

>>448015
Get a EGLM, the front rail for the fn2000 and the standalone kit trigger for the EGLM, it fits with a bit of custom work.
It would be so amazing anon, just saying...

>>448046
I would go for the JG bar-10 or the well one. But if you are going to upgrade it who cares, the only stock part left will be the body
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:35 UTC+1 No.448092 Report

>>448081
Yeah, I still secretely wait for G&G to fulfill its promises and releasing a F2000 with dedicated GL.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:35 UTC+1 No.448093 Report

>>448081
I won't upgrade it. And I always heard Jing Gong was the shittiest of the shittiest.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:50 UTC+1 No.448113 Report

>>448092
Would be amazing, I would have an FN2000 already if they did.
>>448093
I would go for TM if you don't want to upgrade, else do whatever you like as all of the chinese clones are shit.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:52 UTC+1 No.448116 Report

>>448081
>>448092
>>448113
i actually use the real f2000 at work and i couldnt imagine someone would want to own this unergonomic shitty water soaker
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:54 UTC+1 No.448118 Report

>>448113
All of them ? Even Snow Wolf ? Because I always thought that was top tier shit.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:56 UTC+1 No.448123 Report

>>448116
What's your job?
I held the G&G one and seems fine for me, but you'll know as I never had the chance to see the real one.
I always liked the shape it has.

>>448118
Snow wolf makes some odd stuff, I would go for something else.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)21:58 UTC+1 No.448127 Report

>>448123
Well I want it to be affordable and reliable ( I don't want it to break and want metal internals ).
What do you suggest that is not a Dragunov, L96 or Barrett ?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:04 UTC+1 No.448135 Report

>>448127
Give me a price range :)
I well because they make some innovative stuff, look at this model
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/sniper-rifles/china-sniper-rifles/well-mb4411d-sniper-rifle-with-scope-bipod-olive-drab.html
Aps makes some cool snipers, like this mix between a M24 and a M40
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/sniper-rifles/china-sniper-rifles/a-p-s-hakkotsu-m40a3-air-cocking-rifle-dark-earth.html#.U7RzQbEl_Dc
If you could save a little bit more you could get this
http://www.evike.com/products/44258/
This is fucking cool for plinking and simply as a collector item, its shell ejecting and quite powerful.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:06 UTC+1 No.448138 Report

>>448116
Well, I never really held it in me arms, but I love it in every vidya gaem, review and wherever it appears.
It's also ambidextrous and the AEG one has cool functions.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:09 UTC+1 No.448142 Report

>>448135
I considered the APS one in black but I find it pricey, I was hoping to stay around 100 euros.
Also I didn't like the first one you linked, It's just not my thing. I don't mind if a rifle is simple either.
It will only be used for backyard plinking, and aside from the reliability that I want, I also want it to not require an external power source, so bolt action, without gas or c02 or batteries.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:12 UTC+1 No.448149 Report

>>448142
Then go for a M24, my bets are on A&K/Well, get one of thos packs that come with the bipod and sight, they are not too good but hey, it works.
If you are from europe buy from taiwangun, it's cheap and safe.
Ever considered this one?
http://www.taiwangun.com/en/mb-06-well?from=listing&campaign-id=19
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:16 UTC+1 No.448155 Report

>>448149
I would rather get this one then.
http://www.taiwangun.com/en/3-in-1-sniper-set-mb03-black-well?from=listing&campaign-id=19
The problem is that I don't know jack monkey squat about internals.
In what way are they not 'too good' ?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:20 UTC+1 No.448159 Report

>>448155
They'll end up blowing up, specially the trigger, the accuracy is not the best out of the box, but you can deal with that, I'm sure that even if it's for plinking you'll upgrade it step by step, ej. the trigger unit breaks, then you will put a reinforced one.
One of the best purchases you can make is changing the hop up chamber like the PDI ones and getting heavier bbs, these ones fly slower but straighter.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:21 UTC+1 No.448163 Report

>>448155
Can't withstand power upgrades, accuracy and repeatability of FPS is meh.
Shouldn't be a problem if you have strict FPS limits, but over here assault rifles are given an okay to be up to 500FPS, you really have to have a precise rifle with at least 600 FPS to stand a chance against those.
It's fucking mad.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:22 UTC+1 No.448165 Report

>>448159
Are there any rifles that don't blow up ?
Let's say money was not an issue, what would be perfect right out the box.
Would I be able to get something like that for 200 Euros ?
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:24 UTC+1 No.448167 Report

Perfect outside of the box for plinking?
Tokyo Marui VSR-10.
They're also best for fields with low FPS limits, because TM magic gives them good range despite normal FPS.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:25 UTC+1 No.448169 Report

>>448165
They all do at some point. They don't blow up literally, the trigger usually breaks because it doesn't stand the high power.
Look don't worry too much, if you buy a cheap one if something breaks you can change it by yourself, they are very simple, never fear openig it up.
Once again, this >>448167
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:27 UTC+1 No.448172 Report

>>448169
>They all do

And now I don't want one anymore...
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:28 UTC+1 No.448177 Report

>>448169
Yeah, like he said, most people look down on cheap spring rifles because they don't stand upgrading, but it's not like they're garbage on their own.

http://azteko.pl/shotgun-long-003-agm-p-5705.html

This shit is like 12 euros, and I've shot like 3000 BBs through it, and so have most of its users.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:31 UTC+1 No.448182 Report

>>448172
Dude no, AEGs are even worse, snipers are cool, you will plink a lot with those before they break.
Don't be a coward, you cannot expect something that costs 100€ to last forever, if you want something everlasting go for a Marui sniper or maybe a gas powered one.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:35 UTC+1 No.448185 Report

>>448182
I have a G&P shotgun, a spring Dragunov, 2 aeg AKs and an aeg AR-15, none of them have ever malfunctioned or broken anything.
I fail to see how 'aegs are worse', I really want a bolt action rifle for plinking, but I didn't spend much on my other shit either, so I kind of expect it to actually last forever and not cust much... I don't understand why people think shit has to break constantly.
I really cannot make up my mind at this point.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:40 UTC+1 No.448190 Report

>>448185
I've had a couple of chinese sniper rifles and under stress they usually break, I've seen parts flying because of jams, and that sucks.
I might get a simple sniper for lone wolfing from time to time, like the first one here >>448135
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:44 UTC+1 No.448193 Report

>>448190
Ok so I'm willing to try my luck with this then.
http://www.taiwangun.com/en/3-in-1-sniper-set-mb03-black-well

But I don't know what magazines fit in there. there are 2 that look similar but are from other brands.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:48 UTC+1 No.448197 Report

>>448193
It comes with two, seems enough for plinking.
I think they are Marui VSR-10 compatible, so any mag should fit, I'll look on the internet about that tho.
Seems like a clever purchase to me.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)22:52 UTC+1 No.448201 Report

>>448197
Yeah I'd still like more mags.
Kind of hoping to make a small amount of money on the side because I was planning not to buy anything in the next 2 months but the weather is nice outside and I kind of want to start practicing bolt action.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)00:28 UTC+1 No.448307 Report

>>448123
>What's your job?
soldier in the slovenian army.
our version has the rail on top with a red dot attached, no fancy original optics.
>>448138
i kinda get you , just like i find the dragunov the most aesthetically pleasing even though its probably not that great vs modern semi auto s.rifles
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)00:33 UTC+1 No.448310 Report

>>447918
I made the mistake of getting a Cyma M14 as my first AEG. It's a cool as fuck gun to have on the field but I wasn't ready for it internally. I've been witness to two M14s going dead in the field due to mechanical problems, one being mine. Having to deal with the clusterfuck of a gearbox along with the potentiality of having a 11 lb paperweight to lug around made me switch to AKs. A miracle barrel plus a good hop up makes for a very accurate gun on any platform anyways
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)01:59 UTC+1 No.448358 Report

>>448310
Well this sounds like a much better reason not to get it compared to its weight. I hope this isn't s problem with the SOCOM
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)02:13 UTC+1 No.448372 Report

>>448358
It does but it's not the same as a full lenght M14. At the end of the day it really depends on the person, if you can go to an Airsoft Store and pick both up and imagine how it would be to carry those arround for long periods of time.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)02:42 UTC+1 No.448389 Report

>>448372
I'd also recommend watching an M14 internals video so you know what you're getting into in terms of maintenance and upgrades.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)04:39 UTC+1 No.448458 Report

>>448389
Thanks anon, not sure if there are any local shops, especially since I don't have much transportation, but I'll be sure to find a video for the internals
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)05:06 UTC+1 No.448471 Report

Just getting into airsoft, and my first time on /asp/. I bought this today, did I do good?
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)05:58 UTC+1 No.448494 Report

>>448471
Optics were a waste of money, especially the scope. You won't be hitting far enough for it to matter. Other than that, what's the brand? Everyone and their mother makes an M4, and it's impossible to tell from your blurry-ass photo.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)06:19 UTC+1 No.448501 Report

>>448494

sorry. its an A&K Full Metal M16 SPR Mod 0. I didn't buy the optics, they came with the gun. I paid 240 for it on ebay.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)06:23 UTC+1 No.448503 Report

>>448471
>SPR
You did great. The SPR is a beautiful rifle.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)06:24 UTC+1 No.448504 Report

>>448471
>>448503
Well except that stock is shit for it, it really needs a full stock to be the beautiful rifle it is.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)06:27 UTC+1 No.448507 Report

>>448501
Well then, you did pretty well in that case. I do hope you've got a local store or you're willing to do your own maintenance. Number one issue with second hand guns is that they tend to have something wrong with them that needs fixing, or will soon.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)07:24 UTC+1 No.448561 Report

>>448503
>>448504
>>448507

thanks dudes. my wife was pissed I "blew 240 bucks on a toy", but I wanted to make sure I didn't get screamed at over a piece of garbage. No worries on the maintenance side either. I live in Utah, and we have a few shops, plus tearing down and maintaining the gun is one of the reasons I wanted to get into this.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)08:41 UTC+1 No.448603 Report

>>448561
it's an expensive hobby to get into, just make sure you blow an equivalent amount of money on your wife when buying something
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)08:56 UTC+1 No.448616 Report

>>447318
A G36c. Not rare or hard to get by any means, but i don't see too many of them. Pic related
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)08:58 UTC+1 No.448617 Report

>>448616
>stock
>stanag
w-why
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)09:02 UTC+1 No.448621 Report

>>448617
Most the guys i play with frequently use M4s. It just made sense so we could use the same time of mags.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)09:05 UTC+1 No.448625 Report

>>448471
Beautiful gun anon

>>448621
Use pmags on that, it will look much better
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)09:11 UTC+1 No.448628 Report

>>448621
that's a pretty good reason. I used an AK until our team decided to use STANAG-only mags (it's logical, but then you get incompatibility between brands and it's a pain in the ass)
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)09:15 UTC+1 No.448631 Report

>>448628
Yeah. I'm also not looking to sink much money into my gear. We normally get better deals when we buy mags in bulk. I've never ran into the incompatibility issue, but I'm sure that's going to happen at one point or another.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)10:48 UTC+1 No.448666 Report

>>448307
How's the maintenance in the real one? It has this delayed front shell ejecting, right? Does that never jam?
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)11:02 UTC+1 No.448668 Report

I also use stanags in my G36 and I never needed to use somebody's else mags, maybe games don't get so intense over here.
And I carry only 7 low caps.
Still, M4/M16 mags are dirt cheap and more popular and fit pouches better than G36 mags.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)11:05 UTC+1 No.448670 Report

>>448631
>>448668
It usually happens when there is a big difference between brands & tiers.
We haven't run into issues other than the usual pmag not fitting into someone else's replica
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)11:07 UTC+1 No.448671 Report

>>448670
Yeah, I always found it ironic that ACR (by A&K?) didn't take p-mags.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)11:12 UTC+1 No.448674 Report

>>448671
If you file them down a bit (not really, you have to take out a big chunk of plastic) they will fit and feed alright
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)11:17 UTC+1 No.448682 Report

>>448674
G&G F2000 also has some protruding screw, and also needs mags filed a bit.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)13:47 UTC+1 No.448738 Report

>>448193
Is there an alternative to this that has a metal trigger guard and trigger ?
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)14:05 UTC+1 No.448744 Report

>>448738
Nvm, pretty much decided on this one once they have it in stock again.
http://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152199405-Replika-karabinu-snajperskiego-VSR-10-z-luneta-.html
I would like to know how to fit a bipod on it, seeing as there is no rail underneath it.
But my main concern is magazines.
No idea which ones fit.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)14:28 UTC+1 No.448750 Report

>>448744
Any VSR-10 mags will do
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)14:30 UTC+1 No.448751 Report

>>448750
So this one maybe ?
http://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152197551-M70-type-low-cap-magazine.html
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)14:40 UTC+1 No.448760 Report

>>448751
Seems to be right, but if you are doubting why don't you simply ask Gunfire directly? Send them an email or something.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)14:41 UTC+1 No.448761 Report

>>448760
Before my purchase I will.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)16:15 UTC+1 No.448803 Report

>>448744
>I would like to know how to fit a bipod on it, seeing as there is no rail underneath it.
Buy a Magpul MOE rail section. You can find them on amazon. Use a drill in a hollow area (if you can) and screw rail in, sealing with super glue (I'd recommend Gorilla Glue if you can get it, it has tiny bits of rubber in it to make the glue more flexible and less crystalline when dry). If you can't drill holes in it you could try super glue and heavy duty bonding putty but that may not provide enough of a bond. There's also just getting a barrel clamp bipod or buying a barrel mounted rail and putting a bpiod on that. I've added rails to some guns I couldn't find an appropriate part for and they've all held up quite well.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)21:47 UTC+1 No.448943 Report

So, /asp/.

Got any major ops that you're going to soon?

Over in Britbongland got Op. Red Bull coming up, and then Ground Zero, both weekender events. The former isn't particually large but we get a lot of french people so there is a healthy rivalry. Latter is around 1100 people, which is its own breed of game.

Wondering how big the average non walk-on game in the states is like a Lion Claws event.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)21:48 UTC+1 No.448945 Report

>>448943
Just realized I forgot to resize that from its ridiculous native resolution.

Have another that is more reasonable.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:09 UTC+1 No.448967 Report

>>448943
>>448945
Beautiful G36, which one is it?
Post pics of the event dude.
+1k is a lot of people, I don't think most of Lion Clwas events reach that.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:19 UTC+1 No.448975 Report

I think the G36C with the full carry handle is the sexiest G36. I put a CA carry handle on my JG G36C when I owned it. Looked like pic related but was the full optic, not the half optic w/rail version.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:19 UTC+1 No.448976 Report

>>448967
Its a WE G39 with some proper trademarks attached over the WE ones, still quite a bit to do to it, as I received it with that odd rebar cutter flashider, got to replace that and make it look a bit more KSK-ish

Yeah, GZ is pretty damn huge. Apparently the biggest in Europe, but I'm not really sure. I'll be sure to take some pictures of the mass of people for the first briefing and of the general days if /asp/ is interested. The site photos are pretty bad.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:24 UTC+1 No.448978 Report

>>448976
Border War is the biggest event in Europe I think.
Are you taking a GBBR to a big event? God you are fucking crazy and awesome.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:46 UTC+1 No.448987 Report

>>448978
Seems like it is a little larger, you're right

Yeah, hopefully should be running it for that, though perhaps not the entire weekend. Field-stripping a GBBR and lubing it up might get a little old after the 4th time in a firefight
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:47 UTC+1 No.448988 Report

>>448616
Always kinda liked how the G36c looked. Is it a good rifle? Been thinking about getting one
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)22:50 UTC+1 No.448991 Report

>>448988
It depends on the company that makes it, it's like saying I like the AR, is it good?
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)23:25 UTC+1 No.449015 Report

>>448967
Lionclaws events are also highly discriminatory with their rules and regulations. I know more than a few people who didn't go to the last one nearby because they didn't want to have to buy YET ANOTHER BDU. Especially shit like AOR2. That's expensive.

Here in Wisconsin they had a hissyfit because the venue they used last year was in a local real estate dispute with a locally owned spice company who wanted to use the closed down mall as a distribution center. Rustled alot of jimmies when they cancelled the event and said they were never coming back. I swear, socal airsofters are the biggest fukk'n drama queens. I'm from east coast and the issues they had in Milwaukee are small potatoes and relatively easy to work with if you know what palms to grease.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)23:36 UTC+1 No.449020 Report

>>449015
Airsoft only really works if you take it just seriously enough to put effort in and want to win / not cheat, but not seriously enough to get all buttflustered about exactly what shit people are wearing.

I get that people want a certain level of suspension of disbelief, so at big semi-milsim ops I think nerf stuff should probably stay at home, but it doesn't matter if I see a 16 year old baby face wearing AOR1 or pajamas, I know either way that they're not really a marine.
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Anonymous 07/03/14(Thu)23:38 UTC+1 No.449021 Report

>>449015
They are supposed to be milsim events right? In Europe milsim events and big events also have strict gear rules, but hey if you can because you have the right loadout or you can afford getting everything right I think it's worth it. Some people don't like that level of implication and that's alright too
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)00:31 UTC+1 No.449058 Report

>>449020
Yeah, the local milsim group just does green vs. tan with Black and Blue as mercs. Most teams coordinate with their cammo too, so it's not like every group is a different desert pattern from around the world. It's like, why pay out the nose for AOR1 when tri-color or chocolate chip are half the price, still in use, and just as effective in being Tan.

>>449021
They're the biggest events out here, but someone really needs to do a milsim lite without all the stupid, expensive restrictions.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)00:36 UTC+1 No.449060 Report

>>449058
Then it's not milsim, it's just a big airsoft game.
You yanks call milsim to any shit you do geared up
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)00:42 UTC+1 No.449063 Report

>>449060
The stupid, expensive restrictions are camo restrictions. What next, you gonna require everyone on a team to buy the same rig and use the same weapon? Requiring the same cammo and denying similarly colored cammos as alternatives is straight up stupid if you're not going to go the whole way and require the same equipment and guns. But that's impractical and will severely limit you, so why do either? Magazine restrictions and command structure are all you need to have proper milsim. Making everyone buy and wear one expensive camo pattern to join in is retarded and limits your potential player base. A box of midcaps, a Rhodesian rig, and some $20 surplus BDUs is all you need.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)00:54 UTC+1 No.449071 Report

>>449063
It's a fucking event, you are not forced to go and spend that shitton of money. If milsim games went so restrictive they would be like any other game, people just running around with unmatched gear and shit, some people enjoy that authentic experience and anon, don't worry it's not bad to do not like that.
On my team we are trying to run similar gear and guns and sometimes it's hard to follow that kind of stuff but it's pretty rewarding. We run Aor2, if at a big event they asked us to go full MC maybe we could find some cheap solution if not we simply would not go to the event.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)01:09 UTC+1 No.449083 Report

>>449071
> just running around with unmatched gear and shit

Depends where you draw the line.

-Authentic Impressionist kits
or
-Have to be the same pattern
or
-Have to be roughly the same color
or
-Wear whats effective

The last one generally being most walk-on days, and the 2nd being almost all milsims. If you actually think that your kit is authentic because you're wearing multicam or AOR2 I would be willing to place money on finding a dozen faults with your gear. Not to mention that not even real SF gives a shit about matching colors or camouflage.

It wouldn't be such a big deal if it wasn't endemic to most of the large games from what it seems like over there.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)03:31 UTC+1 No.449254 Report

How much could I expect for this-
G&G Scar-L, CQB Master Barrel Extension, NC Star Red Dot. All works fine.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)04:00 UTC+1 No.449294 Report

>>448943
Operation blind fury 11
its going to be the largest one yet, the hosts are lookingat 600 plus people on 100 plus acres.
Fuck yeah ohio
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)04:30 UTC+1 No.449321 Report

>>449254
How much did you spend? Well then half that is always the fair price.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)05:00 UTC+1 No.449330 Report

>>449254
about tree fiddy
#neverold
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)06:50 UTC+1 No.449380 Report

>>449254
What kind of upgrades do you have in it?
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)12:56 UTC+1 No.449520 Report

My custom vfc in progress
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)12:57 UTC+1 No.449521 Report

>>449380
All factory stock
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)14:53 UTC+1 No.449549 Report

For Milsims: I appreciate when the admins/organizers enforce strict rules for specific BDU's -- it's a fucking milsim. I don't want to see some 16 yo kid running around in wal mart camo, buck up or stick to unorganized skirmishes.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)16:27 UTC+1 No.449577 Report

>>449549
I think they're referring to stupid requirements like cyre patterns and random patterns that you don't go down to a surplus store to get
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)16:31 UTC+1 No.449579 Report

>>449577
So Multicam is a stupid requirement?
Nobody is going to ask you for a Crye BDU in a Milsim, but sure you'll have to wear the propper pattern, and as far as I know you can get most of BDUs for under 90$
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)16:51 UTC+1 No.449582 Report

>>447318
:3
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)17:01 UTC+1 No.449586 Report

>>449582
What the fuck is that
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)17:42 UTC+1 No.449611 Report

>>449586
Looks like a tree of some kind, snow, an ammo box.

Oh, and a rifle I don't recognise.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)19:47 UTC+1 No.449650 Report

>>449254
If it's not used very much start at 75% what you paid into it.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)20:02 UTC+1 No.449656 Report

>>449579
Since the U.S. Army is slowly withdrawing from Afghanistan and hopefully the rest of the middle east, surplus Multicam ACUs have started popping up in places, albeit very few places. If you know where to look you can get a full set as cheap as $25. Pic related, my $25 Multicam ACUs. Bretty gud for fall and winter woodland games.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)21:05 UTC+1 No.449670 Report

>>449579
I'm reffering to the special snowflake patterns like multicam tropic and that sorta shit, stuff you can't pick up at a surplus shop
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)21:31 UTC+1 No.449675 Report

>>449670
>moving the goalposts
I'm not even involved in this conversation but I can see you're being a shithead right here.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)21:56 UTC+1 No.449682 Report

>>449579
$90 for a specific BDU is a stupid requirement. Having to get a whole 'nother BDU set that you won't ever use because your woodland or tricolor work just fine or are your team colors is stupid. Green vs. Tan is as far as it SHOULD go, especially for such large events as Lion Claws. Those sorts of restrictions are arbitrary at best. Would it be more milsim if I required all of the OpFor guys to wear Tigerstripe and the Counterterrorist guys to wear Desert AUSCAM in my imaginary alternate universe military scenario in midwestern America? Of course not, that would be retarded. Forcing people to buy a specific pattern to fulfill your milsim autisms is the best way to A, convince people who have otherwise faithful milsim rigs not come, and B, keep out those who might want to get into big milsim events but don't have the money for expensive commercial BDUs. I'd rather spend that money on reliable gear and gun upgrades.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)22:38 UTC+1 No.449700 Report

>>449586
It looks like a heavily modified gas pump handle.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)23:12 UTC+1 No.449710 Report

>>449682
You guys seem to be butthurted because you would like to go to these events but those limitations are too much for you. Look milsim is that, get over it god, it's like asking why can't you go to a fallujah recreation event dressed tan vs od, that looses the charm of milsim, it might seem stupid but it adds a lot to the game.
And if you don't like it's simple as that, do not go, but yeah we all want to shoot from an helicopter on American milsim events or Border War.
If that's too much for you then you are not playing milsim, you are just playing plain airsoft, which is not a good or bad thing.
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Anonymous 07/04/14(Fri)23:14 UTC+1 No.449712 Report

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Military-Spetsnaz-Tactical-Assault-Combat-Vest-Flora-Holds-8-AK-Mags-/131231725861?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item1e8e053925
Does this look legit? I'm starting a slavshit build and I need a good vest/rig to go with it. Was originally going to grab a Russian Tanker's vest for 299 but I realized at that price you didn't even get the plates so fuck that. Can't find the official name of this vest so I can't confirm if this is milsurp or not.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)02:10 UTC+1 No.449854 Report

>>449710
I've never heard of specific camo requirements at any milsim ops I've done. It sounds as dumb as banning Nato forces or the Western guys from using Russian weaponry. If you really like that kind of specific milsim then you should probably try to find a WW2 airsoft club or something.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)03:53 UTC+1 No.449930 Report

>>449710
No dude, milsim is magazine restrictions and command organization long before it's got anything to do with gear and camo. You want some proof? Check out youtube speedsofters like Levelcap who wears full Crye multicam and then go and run hi-caps in full-auto CQB fields. I know guys who wear polo shirts and chinos for that proper contractor look who are more milsim than the babbies who dress up in MARPAT. These aren't historical reenactment battles, they're alternate universe large-scale milsim event scenarios where everyone uses their weapon and gear loadout of choice. Restricting camo patterns out of everything else they could restrict is just plain arbitrary.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)11:38 UTC+1 No.450080 Report

>>449930
Yet another amerifat, you'll never understand milsim with that attitude
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)15:11 UTC+1 No.450120 Report

>>447920
>M14's are used as Assault Rifles
No they're not. The M14 fired a full size 7.62 NATO round, thus it's a battle rifle.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)15:14 UTC+1 No.450121 Report

>>449656
>Winter Woodland
>good for multicam
you literally do not know a single thing about patterns do you?

i'm a bit disappointed that loadout faggot doesn't post here anymore because he'd likely have chewed you out for that
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)16:52 UTC+1 No.450141 Report

>>450080
>You uncivilized Americans will never understand the enlightenment of TRUE milsim
Sure thing, Yuro. Do they let you wear that fedora at your modern combat reenactment scenarios, or does it have to be in multicam first?

Opinion discarded.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:00 UTC+1 No.450143 Report

>>450141

Does the guy in that pic even have a shotgun, or is he just carrying those shells because that's what size the little loops on his shirt were?
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:08 UTC+1 No.450144 Report

>>450143

And yes, I know the rifle he's holding isn't a shotgun. Just wondering if it's standard kit to have an Ithaca in your backpack or some shit.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:22 UTC+1 No.450146 Report

>>449670
Show me an event that requires multicam tropic.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:29 UTC+1 No.450149 Report

>>450080
As a European, shut the fuck up.

Its got nothing to do with location.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)17:34 UTC+1 No.450151 Report

>>450121
I still post, just not under my trip when it's not needed.

Multicam in a winter setting is near useless.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:36 UTC+1 No.450153 Report

>>450151

Totally, brosef.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)17:40 UTC+1 No.450154 Report

>>450153
>near useless
Note the near.
Camouflage in that sort of setting is pointless, since the trees are just too barren to blend in with.

If there's lots of them, they can act as a sort of hedge type thing that covers you, but at that point camouflage becomes unnecessary.

>brosef

Don't be a faggot, now
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:42 UTC+1 No.450155 Report

>>450154
Just messing with you, but I do actually think multicam is one of the more 'effective' patterns in such environments.

Obviously nowhere near the snow patterns, but still.

Also depends on if by 'winter' he meant snow on the ground. If not, its even better.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:44 UTC+1 No.450157 Report

>>450154
whilst your here i need a loadout for an op im going to next month my friends are going as russian spetznaz so russian loadout
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:47 UTC+1 No.450160 Report

>>450157
Depends how accurate you want it to be.

You can grab actual Russian gear for fairly cheap, though that shit tends to be thick cotton or heavily insulated anyway, so make sure you don't wear too much.

GORKA E would probably be your most straightforward way if you want a legit loadout, though I'm not sure if you would get it within a month with backward-ass Russian posting.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)17:53 UTC+1 No.450163 Report

>>450155
The only downside is that snow patterns aren't exactly commonly available. At least not where i'm at.


>>450157
Spetsnaz is just Russian for special forces, it's not an actual unit. That being said I'll post what i'd recommend.


>Gorka
You can pick these up in patterns like Partizan M or Digital Flora, but the OD one will be cheaper.
>OD Green Patrol Cap
You can get a hat that's made for the Gorka, but they often don't come with them and the Patrol cap is the closest thing.
>SMERSH Webbing
>Fingerless OD Green gloves
>boots
>OD Green or Tan Balaclava
>AK Type rifle (Krinkov for added Accuracy)

Good luck getting any of this in time, though. Incase you don't know the happening's happening in Ukraine and that's where 90% of Russian mail to Europe goes through.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:56 UTC+1 No.450164 Report

>>450149
The view of airsoft and milsim is very different in Europe and USA
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)17:58 UTC+1 No.450165 Report

>>450164
No, there are.. wait for it

>differing opinions throughout both places

SHOCKER
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)18:02 UTC+1 No.450169 Report

>>450164
I think milsim is fucking dumb.
All it is is airsoft, except you have to use realcaps and everyone acts like it's a real firefight. I never heard that amount of screaming even when I was in a real firefight, fucking ridiculous.
You can't simulate a real life battle with Airsoft. You'll never get the same feeling.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:06 UTC+1 No.450200 Report

>>450121
It rarely snows in Southern Virginia. In my local environment it is god tier during the winter time where puke green and light brown are predominant. Your winter woodland and my winter woodland are likely two entirely different things. It would be shit in an evergreen environment or in a darker Euro forest, but in a temperate Southeastern forest it's fantastic during Winter. Sorry for not clarifying the environment too.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:13 UTC+1 No.450202 Report

>>450080
Careful, your inferiority complex just exploded all over your keyboard.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:15 UTC+1 No.450203 Report

>>450120
>battle rifle
>assault rifle
Lol what. Is that what Call of Duty labels them or something? Hahahaha!

>>450144
>big scruffy beard
>standard kit
lol
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:16 UTC+1 No.450205 Report

>>450200
I watched one episode of Uppote and it must've been the cringiest 30 minutes of my life. I don't get how people can watch that and go "haha! so cute".

We should've bombed the Japs into the stone age


>>450203
Battle Rifles are select rifles that fire a full sized rifle cartridge.
Read a fucking book nigger
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:16 UTC+1 No.450206 Report

>>450165
This.

>>450169
You're autistic.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:17 UTC+1 No.450207 Report

>>450205
>Battle Rifles are select rifles that fire a full sized rifle cartridge.
>Read a fucking book nigger
underageb& pls go back to /v/
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:18 UTC+1 No.450208 Report

>>450205
That's Girls und Panzer, not Upotte. You need to brush up your Chinese cartoons.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:19 UTC+1 No.450210 Report

>>450206
It's fact, you will never replicate the way a human deals with active combat with airsoft.


>>450207
He's right. The M14, for example, is a battle rifle since it fires 7.62x51 NATO and is capable of fully automatic and semi automatic fire.

Another example is a G3, again, 7.62x51 NATO, select fire.


The SCAR 17 in 7.62 is a Battle rifle as well.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:22 UTC+1 No.450211 Report

>>450210
would the sks be one cause i want to use it as a dmr and my team said i should pick a good battle rifle
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:25 UTC+1 No.450213 Report

>>450211
No, the SKS wouldn't be one. It fires an intermediate rifle round (7.62x39) and isn't capable of fully automatic fire.
It can fire close to fully automatic with a Slamfire stock, but strictly speaking it's still a semi auto.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:27 UTC+1 No.450215 Report

>>450211
IRL the SKS is kind of weird. Most people classify it as a battle rifle since it has a small magazine, and is semi only. However, it does fire an intermediate rifle cartridge in the 7.62x39 which is usually a trait of assault rifles.

Unfortunately there isn't a good airsoft SKS out there. Only a few super cheap springers and novelty shell ejectors. The M14 or an M16 UFC/MK11 is a better bet.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:29 UTC+1 No.450217 Report

>>450215
The magazine size has nothing to do with it.
If it fires a full size rifle round, and has select fire capabilities, it's a battle rifle.
If not, it's not
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:29 UTC+1 No.450218 Report

>>450210
You're massively autistic. No one is hoping to replicate the way a human deals with actual combat. And the fact you think they are, means you have very little comprehension of normal human psychology. Were you discharged for brain defects?
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:30 UTC+1 No.450220 Report

>>450210
>battle rifle
>assault rifle
No military has ever used these terms. It's now clear your only military experience is Call of Duty.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:30 UTC+1 No.450221 Report

>>450218
No, I left.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:32 UTC+1 No.450224 Report

>>450220
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:33 UTC+1 No.450227 Report

>>450224
So you're saying your military experience is Wikipedia??
HAhahahahAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:34 UTC+1 No.450229 Report

>>450224
Dude, did you just use Wikipedia to make a claim about what militaries do?
NO military has EVER used "Battle Rifle" and "Assault Rifle" and the fact you think they do and that WIKIPEDIA backs you up on this, makes it painfully clear you've never served anywhere.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:36 UTC+1 No.450232 Report

>>450227
>>450229
EVERY
MODERN
MILITARY
USES
THAT
TERM
Find me evidence otherwise.
>losing argument
>y-your source is bad
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:37 UTC+1 No.450234 Report

>>450232
NO military has EVER used those terms you fucking moron. Find me evidence otherwise.
Checkmate. Still looking forward to seeing your discharge papers ;)
Oh wait, you have none!
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:40 UTC+1 No.450236 Report

>>450234

http://www.finance.hq.navy.mil/fmb/08pres/proc/WPN_Book.pdf

How does the US Navy suit your tastes?

Seriously though, I know you're trolling.
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Loadout Guy 07/05/14(Sat)19:46 UTC+1 No.450240 Report

>>450234

MK 14 EBR

Military issue DMR.

>Enhanced
>Battle
>Rifle

I'll go have a fiddle around my papers drawer. I need to look for my passport anyway.

in the meantime, have my old tags and a spare cap badge I had at hand.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:47 UTC+1 No.450241 Report

>>450240
bong dog tags look so weird, they're even a weird shape
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)19:54 UTC+1 No.450243 Report

>>450234
Finnish military uses the term assault rifle. They never had battle rifles though so that term isn't used.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:10 UTC+1 No.450250 Report

Is there such a thing as a decent out of the box airsoft spring rifle ?
The longer I look shit up, the less I think that this is actually a good idea.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:12 UTC+1 No.450251 Report

>>450220
you're so stupid it hurts.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:34 UTC+1 No.450260 Report

>>450250
Spring assault rifle / SMG?

No, they're made to be cheap.

Spring bolt action?

Meh. Mostly made for upgrading, there are a few alright ones but none are made to withstand high FPS for long periods of time out of the box. They're bases for upgrade parts.

Spring pistols?

Good if you want a very cheap, quiet way of throwing BBs. As a normal sidearm, no.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:37 UTC+1 No.450261 Report

>>450260
Bolt action rifles.
A bit earlier in the thread someone was planning on buying a Snow Wolf VSR and for that price I was considering it too, because I also want some full metal rifle, and some of the similar rifles from other brands have plastic triggerguards and such.
But I can't find much info about the Snow Wolf rifle and some guy on Jewtube said there were some problems with it, and it was the same in the comments, but he's the only one with a video about that shit.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:42 UTC+1 No.450263 Report

>>450261
I've actually owned a SW M24, and it was a little finicky. Not bad for the price, I guess.

If its compatible with TM VSR parts, you should be alright as long as you're comfortable with potentially doing a little modification work to things to make them fit, though thats bolt actions in general if you want them performing well.

It depends what you want to do with it, I guess. If you want to use it as a base to sink parts into, go with a BAR-10 or genuine TM. If you want just something to fuck around with, then the SW is probably a good bet. Just remember if you've never used a bolt action before that they don't tend to be too fun until they have range and accuracy advantages over AEGs, and no stock rifles do.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:46 UTC+1 No.450264 Report

>>450263
It's mostly for practicing with bolt action in the backyard, and I don't really want to upgrade it, or at least not now.
How was it finicky ?
I just want a stock rifle that shoots accurate.
However I am starting to think that most of them do not, and I fear that the Snow Wolf will neither.
I'd be happy if it was accurate up to 100 meters, but I'm unsure if that is possible out of the box.
How is the quality ?
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:50 UTC+1 No.450268 Report

>>450264
>I'd be happy if it was accurate up to 100 meters

Literally nothing will be accurate to 100 meters out of the box.

Hell, thats pushing it for highly upgraded bolt actions.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:51 UTC+1 No.450269 Report

>>450268
What about 50-75 meters out of the box ?
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)20:55 UTC+1 No.450273 Report

>>450269
As a disclaimer, I'm not great at judging distances, but you should be able to get a 50-60 meter kill if you've ranged it and know where your BBs are going and get a little lucky.

Snow wolf stuff is pretty cheap and simple internally, externally is nice to touch but all but one of the body screws stripped out of the body. If you do a little fiddling, it'll be alright for practicing and getting a feel for the field craft. You'll definitely get kills with it if you know how to use it, but don't expect it to be super accurate
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)21:00 UTC+1 No.450276 Report

>>450273
Well I'm currently trying to decide between these two.

http://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152203063-MB4404A-sniper-rifle-replica.html?text=MB4404A

http://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152199405-Replika-karabinu-snajperskiego-VSR-10-z-luneta-.html

The snow wolf is the same as the other guy earlier.
I don't know anything about Well either, but if it's full metal, and nothing that is supposed to be metal is plastic, then that one will be considered.
Currently, the Snow Wolf is my first choice because I don't know if Well is quality, full metal or accurate, and also because I can't find reviews of it, just like the other one.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)21:43 UTC+1 No.450297 Report

>>450240
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
My dog tags are so real pls believe!
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)21:46 UTC+1 No.450298 Report

>>450236
>>450240
>moving goal posts
The NAME of one rifle is NOT using the term Battle Rifle as an imaginary "class" of weapon, you fucking retard.
And you still are ignoring Assault Rifle entirely.
Get rekt, kid. Keep posting pics of things you bought at the surplus store though.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)21:47 UTC+1 No.450301 Report

>>450276
Full metal can be a bit of a misleading aspect, pot metal is likely less strong than higher quality plastics.

If you were going to get anything, get a VSR clone. The one with the correctly placed mag will have irritating proprietary parts in order to make it work, though you can be never be sure what will fit and what won't. WELL is lower-tier stuff in general

>>450297
Given up on the battle rifle thing then?

>>450298
You said they never used it. They have, even if its once.

and are you seriously saying that they've never used assault rifle?

You're a riot, kid.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)21:56 UTC+1 No.450304 Report

>>450298
http://pogoarchives.org/labyrinth/09/02.pdf

Page 17.

Suck a diiiiiiiick :^)
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:11 UTC+1 No.450312 Report

So where are you playing airsoft this weekend asg?
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:19 UTC+1 No.450316 Report

>>450312

And then up to the north for a big OP the next weekend.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:21 UTC+1 No.450317 Report

>>450304
Lol what (^:
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:23 UTC+1 No.450318 Report

>>450301
>They have
No they haven't. The name of a rifle isn't the same thing as your Call of Duty imaginary "class" of weapon.
You're a riot, kid.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:24 UTC+1 No.450319 Report

>>450318
>>450317
>>450316
>>450304
>>450301
>>450273
>>450240
samefag
loadout guy shits up another thread
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:25 UTC+1 No.450320 Report

>>450317
>>450318

Read the PDF page rather than the reports.

Its the report's page 12.

Get wreeeeeeekt son

awww

#shotsfired
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:28 UTC+1 No.450321 Report

My Magpul ACR. Accuracy and range are brilliant, firing 348 FPS
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:40 UTC+1 No.450325 Report

>>450319
When losing an argument simply shout
>WAHHHH SAMEFAG WAHHHHHHHHHH.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:41 UTC+1 No.450326 Report

>>450320
>moving goalposts
lol nice try idiot hahaha
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:43 UTC+1 No.450327 Report

>>450325
>implying im the same guy
Haha, did... did you just refute samefag by calling samefag??
That is the most epic post I've ever seen.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:43 UTC+1 No.450328 Report

>>450326
>"NO military has EVER used "Battle Rifle" and "Assault Rifle""

:^)

lolhaha

you're a RIOT XD
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:44 UTC+1 No.450330 Report

>>450328
>reading comprehension
LOL, please try to reread what is going on and catch up.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:44 UTC+1 No.450331 Report

>>450312
Just the usual field.
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:45 UTC+1 No.450332 Report

>>450318
tell you what, summer. Why don't you go to /k/ and ask them which category of weapon a G3, FN FAL, SCAR and M1A come under.

When they say battle rifle, you can go ahead and apologise
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:45 UTC+1 No.450333 Report

>>450330
Nothing personal, kid.

But ur really stupit
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:48 UTC+1 No.450335 Report

>>450332
>>450333
>>>/v/
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:49 UTC+1 No.450336 Report

Will you guys stop fucking arguing?
Battle Rifle is a class of weapon, referring to a rifle that fires a full sized rifle cartridge and can do so fully automatically.

Weapons that would come under this category are The FN FAL, G3, SCAR 17, M14, M1A.
And depending on who you ask, some consider the .30-06 Garand to be a battle rifle despite the fact that it can't shoot full auto.


Now, can we stop with the 'LOL UR WRONG KID BACK TO COD XDD' (Which, might I add, is dumb. Cod groups any rifle that fires a full auto rifle round into the AR Category. I play CoD, I don't care.) and all the shit posting?
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:49 UTC+1 No.450337 Report

>>450336
loadout guy fuck off already, you've ruined yet another thread
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)22:50 UTC+1 No.450339 Report

>>450336
Lol by that definition an m4 is a battle rifle
>call of duty
>>>/v/
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)23:15 UTC+1 No.450349 Report

>>450337
You're a fucking retard, stop posting. Go troll somewhere else
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)23:18 UTC+1 No.450350 Report

>>450349
your tears are delicious, loadout guy
pls keep posting as long as you are crying so i will know
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Anonymous 07/05/14(Sat)23:53 UTC+1 No.450361 Report

>>450339
>>450350
You're wrong though, because the 5.56 NATO round is an intermediate rifle cartridge. Yes, Battle Rifle is a hindsight term, but it's been in use since the 60s.

But hey, if you want, you can go ask >>>/k/ since this is clearly a question for them. All airsoft guns shoot the same 6mm plastic pellets anyway. Please leave.

>inb4 LOL samefag
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)00:00 UTC+1 No.450371 Report

>>450361
>loadout guy shitposts and samefags another thread into oblivion
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)00:02 UTC+1 No.450373 Report

>>450361
>intermediate rifle cartridge
Hahahaha. LOL
If you want to use more fairy terms, you gotta get your shit together, because all those "Battle Rifles" you listed use your intermediate rifle cartridges LOL
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)00:21 UTC+1 No.450383 Report

>>450373
Well why don't you ask >>>/k/ then? This is the airsoft thread. I wanna talk about fucking airsoft, but faggots like you keep coming in with your weekend warrior logic and shitting up the thread with /k/ shit. It says "Keep /k/ in >>>/k/" at the top. Take a hint.

Now whoever's not a faggot, post your loadouts.
>CYMA MP5 gutted and rebuilt on Rothco single point sling
>KJW CZ 75 (needs new mags)
>King Arms Midcap MP5 magazines w/ homemade magpul
>NC* Battle belt (shit. do not buy)
>Condor H-Harness and Drop leg drop pouch
>UTG drop leg holster
>Maxpedition MP5 double-stack double pouch
>Nalgene belt pouch
>Lancer Tactical GP/Drop pouch
>Valken Tactical Sierra Goggles
>Koei mask (cut down)
>Mechanix Original gloves
>German surplus Navy jacket
>Black Wrangler jeans
>Merrell MOAB Mid Vent Gortex
>Dickies work cap (pictured Brixton Busker cap)
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)00:29 UTC+1 No.450388 Report

>>450383
>blue camo
lol i bet you can hide in the sky and an ocean real well, idiot
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)01:01 UTC+1 No.450405 Report

>>450383
Why a drop leg holster when the only point of drop leg holsters are to clear plate carriers?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)01:09 UTC+1 No.450409 Report

>>450388
>Camo
>At what is clearly an indoor field
Sure thing genius.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)03:04 UTC+1 No.450429 Report

>>450388
To leave more room on the belt, of course. It's also a very comfortable draw position for me and it leaves my arms more clearance without a full-sized pistol sticking up from the belt.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)04:42 UTC+1 No.450477 Report

>>450383
This weekend I'm OPFOR so I'm running:
>Dboys AK-74, CYMA gearbox, SHS super high torque motor, new hop-up unit, still need a tightbore.
>4x CYMA 150rd AK-74 midcaps
>ChiCom Type 56 chest rig
>Surplus M81 Woodland BDU jacket.
>Tru-Spec "Woodland MARPAT" repro BDU combat pants
>Herman Survivor hunting boots because they're way more comfortable than my milsurp boots and go with the OPFOR style of wearing what you can get your hands on.
>Rothco "Woodland MARPAT" repro patrol cap turned backwards to protect the back of my neck.
>JT Raptor Paintball mask with custom paint job and foam ripped out to give better ventilation/reduce fogging.

I don't plan on carrying a secondary onto the field since it'll be small game, but I will carry a KWC M&P CO2 NBB with me just in case I find out one is needed along with a cloth pistol belt and holster to carry it in. Backup AEG will be a A&K full (pot) metal M4 I got on the cheap recently.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)04:46 UTC+1 No.450481 Report

>>450321
I really like the MASADA AKMs. Do they accept other AK magazines or does it force you to use MAGPUL ones?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)06:12 UTC+1 No.450526 Report

>>450409
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)06:56 UTC+1 No.450564 Report

>>450273
Hey, I just got the Matrix VSR10 MB07, is it gud?
Am I gud?
I haven't played in awhile, and Im planning on getting a sidearm and using those two for my main.
Anyone got input for a noob?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)07:05 UTC+1 No.450568 Report

>>450564
>buy gun
>ask if it's good
you did that out of order lol
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)07:31 UTC+1 No.450574 Report

>>450568
Th-thanks.....
'-'
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)08:36 UTC+1 No.450582 Report

>>450564
>Sniper rifle
Someone didn't read the pastebin. VSRs are decent pieces of kit, if you're willing to upgrade. They're not beginner rifles by any stretch.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)14:09 UTC+1 No.450660 Report

På med snubblet MISAKA
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:31 UTC+1 No.450717 Report

>>450582
>http://pastebin.com/WQtUgznd
Wait, no. I'm not new to airsoft by any means. I just haven't played in....3-4 years....
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:39 UTC+1 No.450722 Report

>>450564
No actual feedback? Guys..?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:41 UTC+1 No.450723 Report

>>450722
They already told you, it's a good platform for upgrades, not a good sniper by itself.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:44 UTC+1 No.450728 Report

>>450723
So what can I expect out of the box?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:48 UTC+1 No.450731 Report

>>450728
It might be underpowered for using it as sniper, I estimate arround 450, you could get 100 more with a couple of upgrades.
In order to stand that extra power you will need a reinforced trigger.
For accuracy your best option is a PDI chamber and a propper bucking.
Every chinese ASG is a fucking lottery, is not like if you got a Tokyo Marui, so... try it by yourself and see what's wrong (or isn't)
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:51 UTC+1 No.450733 Report

>>450728
Read some reviews about its flaws and what upgrades work best for your model
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:52 UTC+1 No.450735 Report

>>443930
Anyone here have any experience with Tokyo Marui AEGs? How are they, and what should I expect?

I did my research prior to buying one, but I would like to read from here any experience, gripes, performance, etc.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:52 UTC+1 No.450736 Report

>>450731
also what this anon said
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)18:58 UTC+1 No.450740 Report

>>450735
Owned a TM M14 and experienced many more.
Build quality is outstanding, performance is amazing, you should never consider upgrades as they are fine out of the box, if you upgrade it consider high end ones.
With the exception of the new Recoil Shock ones, most AEGs come at Japanese power (280fps) and quite nice ROF. Replacement parts are very easy to find and not too expensive.
Magazines might be one of the best out there, never had a missfeed on a mid cap and they never stopped working.

Which one are you considering buying?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:01 UTC+1 No.450745 Report

G&G CM16 Mod 0
yes or no
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:04 UTC+1 No.450748 Report

>>450745
>CM
Please don't yeah they are cheap and not too bad quality but they are a pain in the ass to work on.
For what they cost you could get a Lone Star or a King Arms
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:04 UTC+1 No.450750 Report

>>450745
No
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:12 UTC+1 No.450759 Report

>>450750
why?

>>450748
I don't intend to work on it
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:15 UTC+1 No.450763 Report

>>450759
You'll need to work on it, trust me.
Combat Machines are really promoted by Airsoft Stores because they have contracts with G&G, I've already met a couple of retailers that just recommend them for that reason, but the techs of the store are sick of repairing them.

Why is everybody so afraid of upgrades?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:18 UTC+1 No.450767 Report

>>450763
Alright, what's a good starter M4 for a britbong, then?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:19 UTC+1 No.450769 Report

>>450759
They break easily and you'll end up spending more money if you went with a higher end model in the first place
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:25 UTC+1 No.450778 Report

>>450745
Don't listen to them, Combat Machines work just fine. There are some faggots who lurk the threads who insist everyone must buy a high end VFC from the start. Those people are morons. Mind the plastic externals and your gun will shoot just fine.

Eventually you will have to work on your gun, it's the case with all airsoft guns to break, but Combat Machines are a reliable beginner choice. Don't be stupid and it'll last plenty of time. Idiots manhandle their guns and so they break, simple as that.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:27 UTC+1 No.450783 Report

>>450740
I did my research prior to buying one.

I bought an m4 AEG because I still have m4 midcaps.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:31 UTC+1 No.450784 Report

>>450767
http://en.safarasoftair.com/weapons/electrical-rifles/king-arms-m4a1-fixed
I would go for something like that, there are many versions, with rails, adjustable stocks, longer lenghts... That's the only one they have in stock right now, but ask for it arround your local store (if you have any)
Let's do something, go to http://uk.redwolfairsoft.com/ and look for something you like (both in price and shape) and show it here to contrast opinions.

>>450778
It's not about getting something that works as a beginer aeg, it's about getting something that works in the future as you progress.
Who the fuck recommended VFC to a beginner?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:39 UTC+1 No.450794 Report

>>450784
Oh c'mon, G&G internals are better than King Arms by a good country mile. KA is a mid-tier manufacturer with some unique models. There is literally zero advantage to getting a KA over a G&G other than the externals, and if he wants to upgrade externally, there are full metal kits out there. If he wants to upgrade internally, the G&G parts last a while.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:39 UTC+1 No.450796 Report

>>450763
>Why is everybody so afraid of upgrades?
I'm afraid of upgrades because of my previous failed attempts. I just dove right in to gearbox work and such and have not made any beneficial changes (detrimental, really). Version 3s are a pain in the ass.

My solution is that I'm receiving a TM tomorrow as my new and reliable primary.
On the side, I'll be working on a JG AK, which actually has a nicely sounding gearbox, so I won't open it.

Anyone here have a "loose" hop up? Whenever I shoot my AK, it always resets. I've tightened the screws on the adjustment slider, but I'm still having a problem. Is it the new bucking I put in which might be too stiff to handle, or should I just get a new chamber?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:39 UTC+1 No.450797 Report

>>450784
>http://en.safarasoftair.com/weapons/electrical-rifles/king-arms-m4a1-fixed

I like these two, but they don't show FPS and my field has a limit of 360.

Also, i'm not a huge fan of that USMC shit sprayed on the side of it.

http://en.safarasoftair.com/weapons/electrical-rifles/js-tactical-sr15-urx

http://en.safarasoftair.com/weapons/electrical-rifles/dboys-m4-system-full-metal-usmc
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:40 UTC+1 No.450799 Report

>>450731
What if im using .30 gram?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:46 UTC+1 No.450807 Report

>>450799
You'd still to get chrono'd at .20g
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:47 UTC+1 No.450809 Report

>>450807
What
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:48 UTC+1 No.450810 Report

>>450797
I've had a Dboys m4 and was total shit, but for some others they have gone pretty well, as I stated earlier, Chinese ASGs are a lottery.
As for the URX one... I don't know that brand but externally looks pretty.
This guy >>450794 is not THAT wrong but still internals are cheaper than externals, much much cheaper. G&G do not make bad quality internals that's true, I've seen some CMs with a DeepFire barrel and a Madbull bucking that shoot very well, still it's risky...
There's a line of "Rebranded" King Arms AEGs called Lone Star, they have reinforced internals and they are getting pretty popular.

>>450796
As far as I know the M4s are quite old and reliable, tell us about it when you get it

>>450799
No problem with using .30g all chrono test are passed using .20 even on the fields, using .30 would be cheating.
But yeah you should use heavy bbs.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:49 UTC+1 No.450814 Report

>>450809
BB weight doesn't matter to the internals, you'll still get chronoed using .2g BB
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:50 UTC+1 No.450816 Report

>>450814
It actually matters for the hop up bucking
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:53 UTC+1 No.450820 Report

>>450816
No it doesn't, stop spreading misinformation
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)19:56 UTC+1 No.450822 Report

>>450820
What the fuck? It does, same with power, there are a lot of buckings.
Same with the hop-bars, depending on the grammage there are high and low bars.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)20:35 UTC+1 No.450837 Report

>>450809
FPS are measured at 0,20g pellets. Naturally you'll get less with heavier pellets, but if field limits are exceeded at 0.20, you're out.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)20:37 UTC+1 No.450839 Report

>>450717
Well, get a decent AEG sidearm then. MP5k or something.
Spraying full-auto with a hi-cap is justified if your main gun is a sniper rifle, and you use your sidearm just to move around/create distance.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)20:44 UTC+1 No.450841 Report

>>450763
>Why is everybody so afraid of upgrades?
To be honest I've read a lot of horror stories and every person I know that is good with gearboxes and such seem to be autistic in some way or another.
Fucking with my bike is sometimes a pain, trial and error with a gearbox which is a lot more delicate doesn't seem like a fun afternoon.
I also don't have all the tools, like a chronograph, so it makes it all so much harder.
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)20:50 UTC+1 No.450846 Report

>>450841
That's why I'm planning on getting a chrono.
Fun is subjective. I got into the hobby with the idea of fiddling with internals and learning about it
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)20:53 UTC+1 No.450847 Report

>>450846
Well, I don't avoid it because I've already changed some parts, and I understand why people might enjoy upgrading/servicing/maintaining their guns regularry, but if it works I'd rather not fix it, and if my gun exceeds CQB limits, I'd rather leave it at home and run around with a sidearm.
Once I get more free time, more money, and a decent chrono and tools, I'll buy some cheap AEG just for the sake of upgrading it and "learing" on it. Cyma M14 maybe?
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Anonymous 07/06/14(Sun)21:12 UTC+1 No.450855 Report

>>450846
>Charisofter detected
heh, you could make some money as a tech if you learn.

>>45084
NOPE, for learning get an AR, the M14 uses a v7 gearbox and is a pain in the ass to open, the V2 or V3 is pretty straightforward.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)07:16 UTC+1 No.451161 Report

>>449521
250-300
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)08:27 UTC+1 No.451214 Report

>>450855
>chairsofter
>one of the most active posters including 'in-game' photos
s-sure
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)09:14 UTC+1 No.451263 Report

>>451214
Like if I could tell, you are anon.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)09:15 UTC+1 No.451264 Report

>>450855
Oh yeah, forgot about the different gearbox. Yeah, I'm gonna need an AR or an AK for vietnam-era games.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)09:28 UTC+1 No.451271 Report

>>451263
that is actually true
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)13:10 UTC+1 No.451318 Report

>>451264
AKs are fine for learning too, if you get one try to pick up one with a steel body
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)18:21 UTC+1 No.451415 Report

My 19-to-21mm rail adapter got here today.
Eotech? ACOG?
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)19:24 UTC+1 No.451427 Report

>>451415
That front grip is a crime to humanity.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)20:01 UTC+1 No.451444 Report

>>451427
Loadout guy pls go
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)21:04 UTC+1 No.451483 Report

>>447365
plastic gear box wtf?
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)22:22 UTC+1 No.451535 Report

>>451483
Well thats STAR for you.

I was planning on getting one of their support weapons, but for some godawful reason they went with that clear plastic for them too.

Looked like it would break with me touching it
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)22:50 UTC+1 No.451555 Report

>>451535
Get an ICS one then.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)22:54 UTC+1 No.451562 Report

So
http://sg-fashion-snap.com/

Pretty much tipped me into buying real-ish gear, finally.

Interesting that airsoft culture over there is completely different.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)23:05 UTC+1 No.451567 Report

>>451562
Apart from the larger amount of women I can't really say there's much difference in the loadouts compared to here.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)23:28 UTC+1 No.451606 Report

>>451535
>>451483
Racists.
I've never heard of a Star plastic gearbox cracking, whereas I've seen tons of cracked metal gearboxes. If you're not aware by 2014 that many plastics outperform many metals in various implementations, you're a fucking retard.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)23:35 UTC+1 No.451611 Report

>>451606
It's just the shell but I doubt a plastic shell will ever outperform a CNCd one
Plastic shells do crack, but pop metal ones are even worse. Look I'm not saying they are bad, but you cannot compare your L85 10 year old gearbox with a modern high end one.
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Anonymous 07/07/14(Mon)23:46 UTC+1 No.451615 Report

I'm thinking about ditching my Jing Gong G3 and buy a boltie + full auto pistol instead.
I basically grew up with pistol only games and I cant hip fire the G3 for shit.

Good idea?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:31 UTC+1 No.451662 Report

>>451567
Most of them are using Mayflower / Crye / Real shit rather than Chinese stuff, for obvious reasons.

Won't see much other than Tokyo Mauri weapons wise

and a distinct lack of the 12 year olds Endemic of a lot of US fields.

>>451606
The gearbox on the one I tried cracked the first time I used it, and STAR wasn't designing those plastics in 2014.

>>451615
G3 is a hell of a lot more versatile, but whatever floats your boat. Don't know why you're hip-firing the thing, though.

Full-auto pistols tend to be an unreliable POS, too. Unless you're talking about electric.. which are just bad.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:37 UTC+1 No.451666 Report

>>451662
>Most of them are using Mayflower / Crye / Real shit rather than Chinese stuff, for obvious reasons.

Where I play it's actually mostly real milsurp stuff anyway. Some chinese shit of course but not a lot.

>Won't see much other than Tokyo Mauri weapons wise

Yeah, TM isn't really that much more expensive than other brands (plus adhere to Jap speeds).

I'd probably buy nothing but TM if it weren't for shipping and customs.

>12 year olds

We are extremely fortunate here to enjoy 18 limit on airsoft guns so the average age automatically goes up.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:39 UTC+1 No.451667 Report

>>451666
Well that sounds like a good field but you can't say that is the norm
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:43 UTC+1 No.451670 Report

>>451667
You're probably right, had some Stockholmers here this weekend saying they went here because the quality of players take a dive now during summers.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:47 UTC+1 No.451678 Report

>>451611
I don't an L85 you faggot.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:48 UTC+1 No.451679 Report

>>451662
>STAR wasn't designing those plastics in 2014.
No one ever said they were, dumbass. Learn to read.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)00:55 UTC+1 No.451689 Report

>>451679
>If you're not aware by 2014 that many plastics outperform many metals

>Talking about STAR gearboxes made way earlier

Great. So your comment was just pure irrelevancy then, alright.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)01:11 UTC+1 No.451734 Report

ok so my dad bought me this rifle from jax because he knew i airsoft and shit,
i knew it wasn't special but i let him get it for me anyways cuz he likes buying me shit
plus, free shit and i am poor
I know its internals are probably going to go to shit after a few hundred shots from the reviews i've seen
but i cant find any spare mags that are compatible to it
pic of mag is next
any one help me out?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)01:16 UTC+1 No.451751 Report

>>451734
here is the mag with rough dimensions from a cheap tape measure

the closest looking mag i could find was the utg master m324 but i know its bb-feeder-mouth-whatever (i dont know the name) is the same type but its flush with the front of the mag and i dont know the dimensions to see if i could retrofit it with some mold-able plastic or something
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)01:20 UTC+1 No.451766 Report

>>451751
this is the m324 mag

i know many manufacturers intentionally make other brands mags/attachments incompatible, but what is the point if they dont sell their own mags individually

like people are gonna buy another rifle just for the mag?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)01:40 UTC+1 No.451839 Report

>>451689
>being this awful at reading comprehension
Where did you go to school? I need to know this.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)02:49 UTC+1 No.452148 Report

What could be wrong with my A&K masada hop up? Shoots precicely with couple flyers to the left on sme, but when I try FA the bb's immediately curve up and most of the time get stuck at the start of the rubber. Using Madbull blue.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)08:05 UTC+1 No.452630 Report

>>451562
This site is gold, very nice gear & replicas
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)08:06 UTC+1 No.452631 Report

>>451615
From what I heard, G3 and G36 from JG are basically same shit internally, so you're good to go.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)08:09 UTC+1 No.452635 Report

>>452148
On my AKS74u if I shoot semi the BB flight nicely but a couple out of 10 or so will just go to the right. It's strange as I've changed the bucking and hop unit...
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)08:13 UTC+1 No.452638 Report

>>451562
>http://sg-fashion-snap.com/
>tfw no qt azn AS gf
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:43 UTC+1 No.452681 Report

I'll be getting this... eventually...
http://www.evike.com/products/34740/
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:46 UTC+1 No.452684 Report

>>452681
>prefect collector item
I hope you post pics & reviews of this
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:46 UTC+1 No.452685 Report

>>451615
>full auto pistol
I hear kwa is coming out with a CZ75 auto.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:51 UTC+1 No.452687 Report

>>452684
I'm getting it cuz I'm an AK fag and it's the most realistic one I could find.
Pic related. fully stripped. Sorry for low res.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:52 UTC+1 No.452688 Report

>>452684
And here is review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D5xdg4l9QA
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:55 UTC+1 No.452689 Report

>>452687
>>452688
when you get it, guise, not from evike
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)09:58 UTC+1 No.452690 Report

>>452689
Yeah its just the first link I found. Besides, Evike isn't that bad, at least from my experiences.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:03 UTC+1 No.452695 Report

>>452687
Nice, is that systema of kalasznikow?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:04 UTC+1 No.452697 Report

>>452695
If u mean Kalashnikov action, then yes
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:07 UTC+1 No.452699 Report

>>452697
Oh, it's a GBBR, never mind.
I'll get excited when it takes CO2.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:09 UTC+1 No.452703 Report

>>452699
I like green gas, but it can take CO2.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:10 UTC+1 No.452706 Report

>>451562
>>452638
>http://sg-fashion-snap.com/
This whole fucking site. I have wasted hours now and it's 4am. Why is Japanese airsoft just so much better. The housewives are great too. 10/10, would NTR operationally. Wish there were more women into the sport here.

>>451662
Yeah, well, kids have their own games. Japanese gun laws basically create a defacto 18+ limit since under 18 guns are max 0.135J. Pitiful, really.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:10 UTC+1 No.452707 Report

>>452703
Green gas is cool, but it would eliminate it for at least half a year over here.
A reliable CO2 GBBR would be very interesting to own.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:16 UTC+1 No.452708 Report

I'm more of an AEG guy myself, cuz that way I don't have to worry about climate, but being a massive slavaboo I couldn't pass that AK up.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:25 UTC+1 No.452710 Report

>>452706
>posts the only pic from the site already posted ITT
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:38 UTC+1 No.452712 Report

>>452710
Because he posted the shitty low-res one. Here, have a dentist who's not wearing any face protection.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:44 UTC+1 No.452716 Report

>>452712
>you realize the only people carrying P90 are grills

That's because she can get free teeth anyway, also 280 fps limit

Aren't there lots of dentist on that site?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)10:55 UTC+1 No.452721 Report

>>452716
Not only that, but keep in mind that fucked up teeth are fashionable in japan.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)11:03 UTC+1 No.452728 Report

Hey guys.
I'm having a bit of a trouble trying to decide what to buy this summer. Yesterday I went to a store and they had the Marui Five Seven which I love, I'm kind of a collector and I've been after this one for qutie a long time.
The thing is that I'm also considering buying the HSP D3 Chest Rig, it's quite pricey at 180$ but it gets the job done and I really love HSP products, TMC does make a clone called TMC D-Mittsu and costs arround 50$.
I never held the real D3 but the TMC one looks fairly similar, both use Nylon 500D fabric, but I'm afraid the TMC one won't stand a lot of beating...
What do guys.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)13:12 UTC+1 No.452772 Report

>>452712
>p90 looks massive in her arms
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)13:13 UTC+1 No.452774 Report

>>452712
>Shoot her
>H-hitto!
>Blast full auto at her
>UWAAAA~~~
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)13:15 UTC+1 No.452775 Report

>>452728
From my experience, TMC is fine enough. A bit stiff, a bit smelly at first, but it won't break easily, should survive a lot of airsoft games unless you crawl through barbed wire and broken glass a lot.
I wouldn't trust their JPC, mostly because even "expensive" companies have a hard time making it reliable in the long run, but something that looks solid enough, should be solid enough.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)13:17 UTC+1 No.452778 Report

>>452687
Okay, are internals really made mostly of steel? GBBR suffer, because internals are plastic/zamak which simply doesn't stand a beating, and in my opinion should be discarded for blow back pistols/rifles.
Steel though.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)13:29 UTC+1 No.452783 Report

>>452687
That's fucking sexy !
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)14:31 UTC+1 No.452813 Report

>tfw done with college and will start working later this year and earn some money, hopefully.
Gonna be spending on airshit like a kid on a flea market.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)14:47 UTC+1 No.452824 Report

>>452813
Serious recommendation: put a month limit on your bank account or you'll end up spending more than what you should.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)14:53 UTC+1 No.452825 Report

>>452728
Unless you're going to be attaching it to a Mayflower PC, you should be fine with TMC. Unless you do a lot of crawling about in woodland games.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)16:50 UTC+1 No.452871 Report

pic from game last weekend
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)19:22 UTC+1 No.452939 Report

>>452871
Why do you remind me to Walter White...
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)19:30 UTC+1 No.452946 Report

>>452939
Because you're not from a white country so all white people look alike to you.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)19:33 UTC+1 No.452949 Report

>>452946
U gon say dat to my boomstick nigga

I'm actually from Spain and you remind me of Walther White for the glasses and that moustache I think
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)19:34 UTC+1 No.452950 Report

>>452949
Fwiw, I'm not the guy in the picture, I was just answering your question.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)20:14 UTC+1 No.452970 Report

>>452824
Nah, I've already made lists of shit I want depending on what I currently have and what I want, I also plan to buy in batches, from more
"important" to less. I'll probably even resign from shit like Tokyo Marui sidearm, because my WE will act the way it's supposed to for a change.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)21:16 UTC+1 No.453008 Report

>>451662
I need to upgrade the G3 for it to be versatile, right now the accuracy and range of it is only slightly better than other lighter and shorter AEGs.
Supposedly its a V2 gearbox inside, and from what I have heard they aren't exactly great for upgrading.

>>452631
It packs quite a punch for the buck I'd say, but the hardware does feel a bit like shit.

The grip is slightly loose, the locking bolt for the bipod fell off, the sling pin on the stock was loose to begin with and is now lying somewhere in the middle of nowhere. The battery has a fucked up large capacity but the voltage is probably lower than the description since a LiPo that delivers 1 extra volt in power makes the ROF about 30-45% higher.

>>452685
Not a big fan of slavshit unfortunately.


Are there any good CO2 pistols that houses 12g containers by any chance?
I've shot quite a lot of guys who got stuck reloading their magazines and I would not want to be one of them.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)21:29 UTC+1 No.453013 Report

>>453008
>Supposedly its a V2 gearbox inside, and from what I have heard they aren't exactly great for upgrading.
Tell whoever said that to you go actually open up a fucking gun once in a while. V2s are the most widely used, have the most parts available for them, are some of the easiest to work on, and it's one of the most versatile designs out there. Unless you're trying to make your shit shoot 500fps at 40 rounds a second you're not going to have a problem.
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)21:30 UTC+1 No.453014 Report

That time again. New thread. Move over when you like.
>>453010
>>453010
>>453010
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)21:42 UTC+1 No.453017 Report

>>453014
How come you are opening a new one?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)21:47 UTC+1 No.453022 Report

>>453017
We're on page 8. Could wait until page 10, but folks have a tendency not to link from the old thread to the new thread. Should probably start linking to the previous thread though, not like it'd matter. Does /asp/ even have an archive?
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Anonymous 07/08/14(Tue)21:55 UTC+1 No.453030 Report

>>453017
that scrolling dawg
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