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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:35 UTC+1 No.5503991 Report

Why aren't you healthy?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:37 UTC+1 No.5503994 Report

>avocado
>like 80g of fat
>healthy
why are you pretending to be healthy?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:38 UTC+1 No.5503996 Report

>>5503994
>2014
>still believing fats are inherently unhealthy
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:40 UTC+1 No.5504000 Report

>>5503996
>shovels 9 calories/gram into his gullet and whines on /ck/ how he isn't losing any weight
the only fat you need is from a fish oil pill and that's just to keep your hair and skin nice. it has zero nutritional value since we aren't fucking cavemen who need it.
>2014
>being this retardedly deluded and thinking eating fatty fat fatty things will make you skinny
god you're a saddo
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:42 UTC+1 No.5504009 Report

>>5504000
An avocado is like 30g of fat and also comes with fiber and a small amount of protein. Your macro intake should be carbs > fats > protein. Are you retarded?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:54 UTC+1 No.5504037 Report

>>5504000
>from a fish oil pill

LEL
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)16:57 UTC+1 No.5504050 Report

Holy fuck just looking that that makes me depressed. Three shades of the same color plus brown on a plate? Get some fucking carrots on there instead of that disgusting avocado bullshit, get some onion, get some nicely grilled chicken, fuck just add more color to that plate.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)17:16 UTC+1 No.5504092 Report

>>5504000
>using supplements of any kind
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)17:20 UTC+1 No.5504098 Report

>>5504000

wow, this has GOT to be bait
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)17:22 UTC+1 No.5504103 Report

Food tastes too good and I got too used to overeating and living a sedentary lifestyle.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)17:22 UTC+1 No.5504104 Report

>>5504009

I do equivalent portions of fat, protein, and carbs... will i dead?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:32 UTC+1 No.5504208 Report

>>5504092
>using supplements of any kind
b-but i live in a climate and altitude that results in Vit-D impoverishment

surely if theres one useful sup its that scenario
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:45 UTC+1 No.5504223 Report

Why did Americans turn the avocado into a fucking food fad?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:46 UTC+1 No.5504224 Report

>>5503991
Because it's expensive
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:47 UTC+1 No.5504226 Report

the idea of healthy is retarded

get your micronutrients. get your macronutrients. eat whatever you want.

fucking retards i bet you're a purist organic-only vegan
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:49 UTC+1 No.5504230 Report

>>5504226
you think saturated fats are bad for you? read peer reviewed medical studies and you'l see they arent

think trans fats are bad for you? recent studies show only artificial trans fats are bad and naturally occurring ones are perfectly fine.

so much imbecilic misconceptions in nutrition/fitness/dieting
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:49 UTC+1 No.5504231 Report

>>5504226

>just die of various diet-related diseases like me. Don't be a pussy
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:51 UTC+1 No.5504235 Report

>>5504231

because eating within reason/moderation and not because dr oz said saturated fats are bad will make me die of diet-related diseases. lel
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:52 UTC+1 No.5504237 Report

>>5504230

If you think saturated fats aren't bad for you, you've been swindled by charlatans. You can get studies to make anything from "cigarettes are good" to "exercise is bad" sound correct, but it's about the bulk of scientific data, and we've gathered so much data in the last half century about this that it's as futile as claiming evolution is false (which people, just as sure as you, still try to do). The lipid hypothesis is the backbone of all modern medical knowledge, and it's been used successfully to cure cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:53 UTC+1 No.5504239 Report

>>5504235

>I'll just eat in moderation so I can develop cancer in moderation
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:53 UTC+1 No.5504240 Report

>>5504231
i'm just going to do one for you. you can do the rest for yourself. first google search.
http://chriskresser.com/new-study-puts-final-nail-in-the-saturated-fat-causes-heart-disease-coffin

>Eating saturated fat doesn’t cause heart disease.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:54 UTC+1 No.5504242 Report

>>5504237
i bet a decade ago when the adkins diet was popular you weere 100% convinced carbs are the devil too
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:57 UTC+1 No.5504246 Report

>>5504240

I knew you'd post that bogus research

>One major problem with this study is they did not look at any studies where the saturated fat intake was less than 7%, which is the level recommended by the American Heart Association. Most of the diets had saturated fat intakes in the range of 10-15% (or more).
>So, just like the studies that criticize "low fat" diets, but never analyze any diet that is truly low fat and based on the principles of low fat, high fiber, whole plant foods, this study criticizes the impact of lowering saturated fat, but never looked at any diet that truly lowered saturated fat to the level recommended.
>Another problem with the study is what the subjects replaced the saturated fat with when comparing the 2. For many, if not most, it was with either (or products containing) hydrogenated/trans fat, white flour, white sugar and/or mono fats.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:58 UTC+1 No.5504247 Report

recent studies show the cause of MOST diet-related diseases are due to overeating regardless of what you eat. first example i remember off the top of my dead: the dude that did that twinky diet had drastically improved blood results/blood pressure/cholesterol. it's hard to grasp that he actually became healthier by eating twinkies but...yeah
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)18:58 UTC+1 No.5504248 Report

>>5504242

Why would you bet that?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:04 UTC+1 No.5504260 Report

artificial sweeteners: an overview
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=291569
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:06 UTC+1 No.5504263 Report

>>5504248
the concept of people advocating things in the past nutrition-wise which ends up not being true. things that flawed studies somehow say are true

margarine is better than butter back in the day
carbs are bad
fat-free products are somehow better than products with fat in them

etc etc. saturated fat being bad is one of these things. a healthy person should have 20-33% of his fats be saturated
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:06 UTC+1 No.5504265 Report

>>5504260
>posts a source
>bodybuilding.com
why not just post a huffingtonpost link or buzzfeed link instead faggot
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:10 UTC+1 No.5504277 Report

>>5504265
that page has multiple links in it and i dont feel like individually posting them. good mental capabilities you have to not see that
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:12 UTC+1 No.5504279 Report

>>5504277
try harder faggot
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:14 UTC+1 No.5504282 Report

>>5504279
ignorant gonna ignorant
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)19:57 UTC+1 No.5504374 Report

>>5504208
Eat sardines.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)20:02 UTC+1 No.5504384 Report

>>5504374

>eat mercury

Or just take a fucking vitamin D pill, the safest, most reliable way to get vitamin D
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)20:21 UTC+1 No.5504413 Report

>>5504239
Moderation and common sense actually go a long way in reducing cancer risk. It's just that they won't sell fad diet books or $15/lb goji berries.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)20:23 UTC+1 No.5504415 Report

>>5504384
>tip tinfoil fedora
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)20:25 UTC+1 No.5504417 Report

>>5504384
Sardines and Alaskan salmon, the two healthiest fish by far, are also two of the lowest in mercury. Stop being paranoid. You can eat them as much as you want.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)20:29 UTC+1 No.5504421 Report

>>5504417
Which do you prefer? Sardines whole or fish steaks? I prefer the latter. Just easier to fork into my mouth, I guess
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:05 UTC+1 No.5504501 Report

>>5504417

No matter the source, fish are the most industrially polluted things on the planet. Taking a simple vitamin D3 capsule is the cheapest, healthiest, most efficient way to get vitamin D. This isn't a discussion.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:08 UTC+1 No.5504505 Report

>>5504501

Or you could, you know, go outside and get some sunlight. That's free.
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Nigger Slayer 06/09/14(Mon)21:12 UTC+1 No.5504514 Report

>>5504501
>vegan fag
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:17 UTC+1 No.5504525 Report

>a whole avocado
>mixing fruits with other foods
>eating only one kiwi

and what the fuck is that brown thing on the left? looks like the seed of a bigger avocado.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:18 UTC+1 No.5504529 Report

>>5504505

>skin cancer
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:27 UTC+1 No.5504550 Report

>>5504525
You're supposed to mix fruits with fats to slow how fast the sugar gets metabolized. Also for any fat soluble vitamins.

And people seriously eat less than one avocado? They're only like 300 cals.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:33 UTC+1 No.5504570 Report

>>5504525

>and what the fuck is that brown thing on the left?

You've never seen a sweet potato before?

>>5504550

>You're supposed to mix fruits with fats to slow how fast the sugar gets metabolized

What?
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:34 UTC+1 No.5504575 Report

>>5503991
>Nothing but greens
Sure thing bro, remember to take your multivitamins/minerals and whatever other amino acids you lack.
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:40 UTC+1 No.5504586 Report

>>5504550
well that might be true... i recently heard that eating chia seeds after fruits helps digestion, which is what ive been doing lately. i also heard that one could mix fats with acid fruits simply cause they act a two different meals. but anyway, what you say sounds legit.

>>5504570
oh, thats a sweet potato! i was actually wondering what are they like cause those are not very common here. i guess your pic has been stored in my memory now.


here's a little book on combinations if maybe anyone is interested.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020195.shelton.combining.pdf
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:41 UTC+1 No.5504589 Report

>>5504575
>2014
>still believing the protein myth

ok
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:42 UTC+1 No.5504593 Report

>>5504586

>i recently heard that eating chia seeds after fruits helps digestion,

I imagine that has to do with the fiber content and liquid-absorping effects of chia, not the fat content. I don't buy what that guy says at all
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:43 UTC+1 No.5504596 Report

>>5504092
More like
>depending on supplements of any kind
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Anonymous 06/09/14(Mon)21:46 UTC+1 No.5504609 Report

>>5504593
Both fiber and fats slow digestion, so it's good to mix them with carbs, especially sugar/simple carbs.

Not really necessary with kiwi since it has very low sugar for a fruit and also has a good amount of fiber by itself if you're gonna eat the skin like I assume the OP did.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)00:12 UTC+1 No.5504952 Report

>>5504000
thanks for reminding me that oil from pills is better than an avocado
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)00:14 UTC+1 No.5504964 Report

>>5504009
That's backwards. Protein and fat should be the majority, carbs at a minimum.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)00:15 UTC+1 No.5504969 Report

>>5504230
calories and macronutrients are about the only sure things in nutrition. otherwise, i don't even see how it's a science. shit changes constantly. like next day constantly
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)03:33 UTC+1 No.5505528 Report

>>5504589
Protein myth? Do enlighten me.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)03:37 UTC+1 No.5505538 Report

>>5504964
Why? No.

Carbs contain fiber and lots of vitamins- fat is necessary, but we only need a small amount.

Protein>Carbs>Fat is the way to go.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)06:35 UTC+1 No.5505920 Report

>>5504609

>Both fiber and fats slow digestion, so it's good to mix them with carbs, especially sugar/simple carbs.

I need you to provide some source on that, because mainstream science would tell you to never mix fat and sugar, which leads to insulin resistance
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)06:47 UTC+1 No.5505942 Report

>>5504964

The only doctors who would tell you that are fat fad diet promoters like atkins
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)07:04 UTC+1 No.5505956 Report

>>5505538
Not even the low carb folks would advise majority protein.
Please don't do this to yourself.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)16:48 UTC+1 No.5506588 Report

>>5504505
did you even read the original post? certain countries don't have the right weather or altitude to get adequate vitamin d
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)17:20 UTC+1 No.5506656 Report

>>5505956
i bet you dont even lift
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)17:24 UTC+1 No.5506662 Report

>>5506588

The post I was replying to said nothing about "certain countries". It simply said that pills were the cheapest. And that's not true.

Also, I'm curious: what country has insufficient sunlight for getting vitamin D?
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)17:41 UTC+1 No.5506681 Report

>>5506662
>what country has insufficient sunlight for getting vitamin D?
not them but Scotland definitely.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)18:00 UTC+1 No.5506701 Report

>>5506662
All studies at least here in Finland also point to that everyone is vitamin D deficient. Depends on the latitude as there is no sun here for half the year.
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)18:04 UTC+1 No.5506711 Report

>>5506662
Canada
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Anonymous 06/10/14(Tue)18:39 UTC+1 No.5506771 Report

>>5506681
>>5506701
>>5506711


>>5506662
slaughtered
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