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Woodgas engine Anonymous 05/18/14(Sun)11:39 UTC+1 No.639845 Report

hey there,

because petrol and diesel is not going to be cheaper any soon, i decided i wanne build my own Wood gas generator.
Im planning to attach it to an old VW T2 or something similar.
I looked a bit around and its quite difficult to buy any parts i would possibly need, so my question is if anzone of you guys got exp in this topic?
someone got a good link what could be helpfull?
Someone did something like this before?
Any other tips?

Ive got tools and a welder and know how to use it.
I have "some" money to spend on this project.

Im living currently in sweden, and here its possible to drive a wood driven car an the road.
Im not planning to use this as a daily driver, but i think it would be nice to have.

ok thanks a lot
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Anonymous 05/18/14(Sun)11:51 UTC+1 No.639846 Report

I always found woodgas to be something of a novelty. I guess the first step would be to make sure it is legal in your jurisdiction. I think if you are looking for cost and practicality, natural gas would be a better way to go. I did the math before and LPG seems like the cheapest option, at least where I live. Never ended up doing the conversion though because I don't have a car right now.
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Anonymous 05/18/14(Sun)11:59 UTC+1 No.639848 Report

op here

like i said its legal here in sweden, but never mind that.
no, i dont like the idea of LPG, cause i still need a gas station, the whole reason behind the wood gas is that i can more or less "fuel it up" always and everywhere.
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Anonymous 05/18/14(Sun)19:34 UTC+1 No.639951 Report

interest bump
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Anonymous 05/18/14(Sun)19:48 UTC+1 No.639955 Report

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_vehicle

Hmm, fancy that. But the article is incomplete.

There's actually a provider station for methane in Iceland. Its only one station as far as I know, but its an official one and is currently being used by methane powered cars in Reykjavik. There's also a hydrogen power station for fueling cars with hydrogen.
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Anonymous 05/18/14(Sun)20:56 UTC+1 No.639983 Report

Sweden also has some apparently
http://www.ngvaeurope.eu/sweden

You should be able to find info on this using google since I've heard lots about people diy-ing themselves some biogas conversions.
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)01:20 UTC+1 No.640095 Report

>>639848
if you find a good design, please report here

Has anyone built a wood-fuel steam generator? Now that vanadium batteries are more readily available, I'd like to recharge with wood
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)02:25 UTC+1 No.640123 Report

>>639848

I have been looking into converting my '13 F150, '86 Vanagon, and '11 Camry to LNG because its easy
>Same gas mileage
>Just adds a second set of injectors and an extra LNG tank
>Extends vehicle range from 900 miles to 1800 miles depending on driving style
>If you have LNG to your house, you can get a home fill-up station. Never have to rely on a gas station again unless on trips.
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)02:47 UTC+1 No.640132 Report

>>640123
is there a link where I can learn more about your claims? no offense, but sounds too good to be true
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)03:13 UTC+1 No.640141 Report

>>640132

Yeah no problem, I didn't believe it either until I called up one of the shops who does installs.
http://www.gonaturalcng.com/press-releases/go-natural-converts-an-f150-to-bi-fuel-cng-in-just-2-hours-and-15-minutes/
Above is one example, I do not recall who I talked to.

It broke down to a conversion for my F150 would be around 7k for a 30 gallon tank setup (for a 8ft bed it will take up about the same space as a truck box, depending on tank size can have a low profile truck box over it).
I think the home refill setup is like 3k to install.
I did not go for the install myself because my home is not set up for LNG so I have to wait until a line is put in, I also have not really looked into the cost in switching my Camry and Vanagon over. You will also want to compare the price of gasoline to LNG in your area, currently mine does not have much penetration so the price is very even.
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)03:26 UTC+1 No.640144 Report

>>640095
Yo, what's up with these Vanadium batteries that I've seen mentions of around the board? I tried to look them up, but what I found didn't look particularly impressive.

What are they (in case I found the wrong thing), and why do you believe they're so advantageous?
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)03:32 UTC+1 No.640148 Report

>>640144
The CellCube batteries use vanadium dissolved in sulfuric acid. Unlike standard lead-acid batteries or the lithium-ion units used by Tesla, they can be recharged and discharged indefinitely and may last as long as 20 years

Google, CellCube
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)03:54 UTC+1 No.640154 Report

>>640148
So longevity is it then? I can see why that might be useful, but is it economical, and how does it compare performance-wise to other battery types?

It seems to be getting rather hyped for that, is all.
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Anonymous 05/19/14(Mon)04:31 UTC+1 No.640170 Report

>>639845
check out FEMA wood gasifier. there are a lot of youtube vids.
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Anonymous 05/22/14(Thu)04:11 UTC+1 No.641500 Report

>>639845
Monoxides are deathly.

CNG is about $0.70 per gas gallon equivalent if you fill at home, or about $2 at stations around me.

New cooking oil is slightly cheaper than diesel. I would be driving on it but I don't know how my injectors would react. Besides my diesel car gets ~55 mpg.

Electric is quite forcible if you have a standard commit around 50 miles and can charge at work the fuel savings alone will pay for a lease.

If you seriously want to do wood gas I would recommend making larger gassifier at home and using compressed gas cylinders.

Also look into payrolls, you can make real liquid hydrocarbon fuels from anything from coal to tiers.
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Anonymous 05/22/14(Thu)05:22 UTC+1 No.641527 Report

>>640154
They are also big. Rechargable battery large enough for your house.

Imagine all the alternative energy gadgets we could build - liquifiers from wood and compost, hydro power from nearby stream, solar from the roof, and manual imput from a geared bike.

All those sources constantly feed into the battery. Then, when you need to run the fridge or use the computer, you have enough available.

and the battery lasts 10 years without significant decline in charge use
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Anonymous 05/23/14(Fri)17:21 UTC+1 No.642171 Report

>>640170
http://www.soilandhealth
(dawt)
(org)
/03sov/0302hsted/fema.woodgas
(dawt)
pdf
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Anonymous 05/23/14(Fri)18:41 UTC+1 No.642206 Report

This guy seems to have the most comprehensive and practical info/book on the topic I've found so far. It seems like real, hard-won technical info as opposed to the usual inexperienced people talking shit on forums - that they read on other forums.

http://www.ekomobiili.fi/Tekstit/english_etusivu.htm
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Anonymous 05/23/14(Fri)18:47 UTC+1 No.642210 Report

>>641500
> I would recommend making larger gassifier at home and using compressed gas cylinders.
That's a foolish recommendation considering you can't store syngas in compressed gas cylinders.
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Anonymous 05/23/14(Fri)20:46 UTC+1 No.642247 Report

>>642210
Yeah, basically all of the practical plans for making vehicle fuel from syngas involve actually chemically converting it to something more storable, such as methanol or dimethyl ether.
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