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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:04 UTC+1 No.639066 Report

sup /diy/

im working on a farm this summer and as part of my employment, im in charge of finishing up this half assed treehouse a previous intern never got around to completing. im an architecture student so this is a great opportunity for me, cus i can create a better housing situation for myself (currently just living in the owner's spare room, not so much privacy), can create a great portfolio piece, and will get paid for anything i complete.

my chief design concerns include:
>use of existing materials (really just an economical concern)
>sustainability (use of low impact practices and materials)
>thermal manipulation (ease of heating/cooling)
>efficiency of space

in response to the limited space, and building on the farm's already developed ideals of sustainability and ecological responsibility, ive settled on creating some kind of micro living residence. at my disposal is a shit ton of reclaimed/distressed wood, multiple masonry products from concrete to slake to brick to slate to clay to cob, and the vast array of stereotypical farm products like feed bags, straw, hardware mesh and chickenwire, all sorts of paneling and corrugated metals/plastics, pretty much anything you can think of.

heres a pic of the platform as layed out by the last builder. roofing in place is a reciprocal 4 beam system.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:07 UTC+1 No.639068 Report

>architecture student
>building a tree house and working on a farm for the summer
>can't afford to live anywhere but a spare bedroom or a goddamn treehouse
you fucked up.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:19 UTC+1 No.639070 Report

my questions for you guys about design/construction:

>what can i do to quickly and efficiently heat/cool the space? i expect to use a rocket stove and thermal mass storage system but want to know what else is out there.
>what can i do for a sanitary toilet? i assume it will have to be composting of some kind as there's no sewer hookup. i have a well water and electric hookup though.
>what are creative ways to maximize space efficiency? probably going to use a sleeping loft or hammock but anyone have some innovative ideas?
>how can i stave off insect infestation cheaply, specifically worried about bees building hives.

pic related is a piece im using as design precedent. Perpetual Camping by Casey Brown Architects in Australia. I love the use of material to evoke the surroundings and really like the view framing.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:20 UTC+1 No.639073 Report

>>639070
>pic related is a piece im using as design precedent.
use a trailer instead, they're much better designed.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:23 UTC+1 No.639074 Report

>>639070
>>what are creative ways to maximize space efficiency? probably going to use a sleeping loft or hammock but anyone have some innovative ideas?
>build a second platform with structurally sound concrete anchored posts
>partially restore car
>hoist car onto said platform with pulley or other farm equipment
>use it as a sleeping space
no need to thank me bruh
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:25 UTC+1 No.639075 Report

>>639068
quite a contentious comment for someone not offering anything useful. if you must know, im actually giving my friend a hand, i knew him before he bought the farm and hes fed up with the intern system as nobody ends up being as reliable as they claim. considering ive been helping him out since before he even started farming i know how all his farm systems work, so hes giving me pretty exceptional pay for a farm hand. plus i just love spending time out there, the food is better than ive had anywhere in my life and his kids are a pleasure to be around.
>plus i get to work all summer in the sun and go back to school looking better than the rest of the dudes in my class. the pussy will be insane.


pic is another shot of the current framing.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:26 UTC+1 No.639076 Report

nothing says sustainable like building on small trees for no reason.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:26 UTC+1 No.639077 Report

>>639073
not sure if you can see in the OP but he has an intern trailer off to the side of the treehouse, its pretty decrepit though. rotting floors etc.

>>639074
neat, didnt think about using the car. thank you anyways.

another pic of the framing.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:27 UTC+1 No.639078 Report

>>639075
what's holding that on the trees?
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:28 UTC+1 No.639079 Report

>>639076
again, it was the last intern, not me. im just finishing the job up and figure its a good opportunity to make something that looks good in a portfolio. maybe even get some sustainability grant money.

one last pic, supposed to show the framing hardware but farmerbro isnt a great photographer.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:35 UTC+1 No.639080 Report

Why not get out your pencil and draw some quick pictures of what you're planning, then do some drawings of the structural side of it, and we'll see if you're gunna fuck up.

RE space: loft bed is a good idea, but nothing beats, you know, including storage space in the design. If all else fails there's the always-reliable option of including bench seat(s) which are actually storage boxes.

Bug proofing: nothing beats sealing properly. There's always sealing with silicone if you can't seal with other methods. This comes down to how well you build it really.

Heating/Cooling/Insulation: see if you can get some second hand insulation. Truth is that if the space is small heating it won't be much of an issue and cooling it won't matter so much, just open the windows and put up the window shades that you'll design it to include.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:35 UTC+1 No.639081 Report

>>639079
is that a sycamore with a fucking pipe through it? Step one needs to be building proper stilts.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:37 UTC+1 No.639082 Report

>>639079
It's resting on poles driven into the tree?
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:40 UTC+1 No.639084 Report

>>639080
yeah i need to scan and upload my sketches but im not home atm so ill get back to you. farmerbro has a surplus of poplar planks so i was thinking lining the interior walls with them and using gaps between as an interface point for a modular shelf/cabinet system.

>>639081
>>639082
yeah idk what the fuck is going on there. farmerbro has a masters in aerospace engineering though, so i assume whatevers up there is safe. If im even a little worried, you bet your ass im gonna put something overbuilt in there instead. fear not, it'll be safe before i start building.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:43 UTC+1 No.639085 Report

>>639084
I don't think the pipe is going to break, I think the tree is dying or dead and doing to fall down. Aerospace engineers don't take an classes on trees (apparently, because if we're seeing it right it's totally retarded).
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:47 UTC+1 No.639086 Report

>>639085
youre right wtf was he thinking, that pipe probably cuts off all capillary action in the heartwood....
ill see what i can do to fix it
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)12:50 UTC+1 No.639087 Report

OP signing off, I'll check up tomorrow
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)13:30 UTC+1 No.639096 Report

>how do I [buzzwords] treehouse?
*vomiting*
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)18:46 UTC+1 No.639148 Report

>>639077
cars are shit in terms of thermal insulation, a fridge in winter, an oven in summer. maybe you can use the car in some creative way that may look awesome in your portfolio (consider this), but i wouldn't use as sleeping/living space
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)18:49 UTC+1 No.639150 Report

Wouldn't a thermal mass, be, well, massive, and therefore weigh a lot, possibly more than what can be supported by the tree?
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)18:54 UTC+1 No.639151 Report

>>639085
>>639086
well, i've sen many trees that have engulfed bigger pieces of metal and survived ages, bt anyway it's not a good idea, if one tree grows faster or taller than the others, levelling it's gona fail
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)21:45 UTC+1 No.639202 Report

>>639148
yeah i wasnt going to make it a sleeping space, maybe repurpose it elsewhere. thought about using the doors as skylights or windows you could roll down the glass or swing open entirely? might be interesting.

>>639150
>>639151
yeah you guys have me really worried now. what im thinking is putting a beam between all four trees, something chunky like 8x6, and then running an excessive number (maybe like 12 or 16) 1" threaded stainless or zinc plated stud up through big nuts embedded in the beam. these studs interface in pits in the framing of the house, so if anything shifts or becomes unlevel i can just adjust the stud height to level everything out. this system also has the added benefit of being able to work on the under-frame without affecting the house, if i want to say, add stilts or beef up the junctions with the trees.
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Anonymous 05/16/14(Fri)21:46 UTC+1 No.639203 Report

>>639151
I don't think trees grow like that actually. They grow in layers so the part the tree house in connected to wil never actually move.
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