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How long until the ATF goes...
Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:04 UTC+1 No.20559254 Report

How long until the ATF goes back on saying these are legal and puts everyone who bought one in PMITA prison?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0f7OCnrrpk

they approved the akins accelerator, then 2 years after a ton of them had been made, called them machine guns..

pic unrelated
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:13 UTC+1 No.20559352 Report

>>20559254
i don't see the benefit to having a full auto ar.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:14 UTC+1 No.20559375 Report

>>20559352
Fun to shoot and makes liberals cry.

Plenty of benefits to most of /k/.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:17 UTC+1 No.20559422 Report

What are looking at here, Jim?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:17 UTC+1 No.20559429 Report

>>20559352
That's not full auto. Only one round gets fired per trigger pull, so it's semi-auto.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:18 UTC+1 No.20559453 Report

>>20559254

ATF won't do anything till that old jewbag Feinstein passes some draconian antigun legislation banning them.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:19 UTC+1 No.20559458 Report

>>20559429
shut the fuck up
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:20 UTC+1 No.20559468 Report

>>20559254
Why do I see an HK bolt head?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:22 UTC+1 No.20559486 Report

>>20559458

Baby gets her feeling hurt when she's told she's wrong?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:24 UTC+1 No.20559511 Report

>>20559352
You're right. Militaries use them because they are worthless.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:26 UTC+1 No.20559536 Report

>>20559511
i'm not running around with a squad using suppressing fire to maneuver.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:31 UTC+1 No.20559592 Report

>>20559536
How can you say that and still believe you are truly alive?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:33 UTC+1 No.20559606 Report

>>20559592
i can't!!!!
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:34 UTC+1 No.20559618 Report

>>20559511
they don't ever use full auto really do they? isn't it all burst mode these days?
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Zed 03/26/14(Wed)18:35 UTC+1 No.20559623 Report

>>20559536
Stop it. You are totally fucking up these guy's SHTF fantasy. Just let it go, they're going to do it anyway.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:35 UTC+1 No.20559628 Report

>>20559468
Because it's a pic of a H&K bolt
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:37 UTC+1 No.20559646 Report

>>20559623
>encourage them to waste their ammo.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:38 UTC+1 No.20559652 Report

>>20559623
Your right, because people with money can buy whatever their heart contends on buying, you stupid tripfag.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:39 UTC+1 No.20559666 Report

>>20559652
Stupid is thinking it's beneficial to having a full auto carbine.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:40 UTC+1 No.20559674 Report

>>20559254
The accelerator had a spring in it, so it basically bump-fired for you. The Slide-fire stock doesn't have a spring, which I think helps it's case.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:43 UTC+1 No.20559720 Report

>>20559666
>implying I said they where beneficial
>implying they are not fun to shoot.
>implying people should not buy guns that have to real world application other then us at the range.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:44 UTC+1 No.20559732 Report

>>20559720
yes! real world purposes only! enjoy the FEMA camps, shithead.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:47 UTC+1 No.20559767 Report

>>20559732
>tinfoil faggot detected
>Stupid is thinking FEMA camps exist.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)18:55 UTC+1 No.20559845 Report

>>20559767
>thinking fema camps are a conspiracy.
/x/
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)19:03 UTC+1 No.20559922 Report

>>20559254
>they approved the akins accelerator, then 2 years after a ton of them had been made, called them machine guns..

It that case, several changes had been made to the atkins accelerator within those two years.

lrn 2 facts pls
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)19:03 UTC+1 No.20559930 Report

>>20559845
Which episode where you in, I want to laugh at how crazy you are.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)19:10 UTC+1 No.20560007 Report

It's only a matter of time before some loosely worded bill passes that bans "any modification that simulates automatic fire or allows the user to easily fire multiple rounds quickly without adjusting their trigger finger."
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)19:31 UTC+1 No.20560251 Report

>>20559618
point shooting. 8 years in the army and other than some drills and a few moments in buildings it was all on semi auto rather than full auto. i barely know anyone that used burst unless they were on security duty.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)19:42 UTC+1 No.20560388 Report

Burst mode/full auto is an option the American people have a right to have on their firearms.

Options are always a good thing and the more options you have at your disposal the more free you are.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)19:46 UTC+1 No.20560441 Report

>>20560007
you mean a multi-burst trigger actuator?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:00 UTC+1 No.20560598 Report

>>20559453

they banned the akins accelerator for no reason after 0 of them were used in crimes and no legislation was passed
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:02 UTC+1 No.20560616 Report

>>20559429

XD

>>20559468

?

>>20559922
>It that case, several changes had been made to the atkins accelerator within those two years.

nope
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:03 UTC+1 No.20560632 Report

>>20560007

they don't even have to do that, all that has to happen is the ATF to decide they don't like it, no further legislation is needed

>>20560388
>Burst mode/full auto is an option the American people have a right to have on their firearms.

Ronald Reagan says no
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:14 UTC+1 No.20560777 Report

>>20560632

>Ronald Reagan says no

Doesn't mean he wasn't wrong and a huge faggot.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:22 UTC+1 No.20560884 Report

>>20559254
Main reason it was banned was because it can go off without someone pulling the trigger

You put the trigger housing around a dowel, push the trigger into said dowel and it emptied itself till empty.

They classified that as full auto and banned it.

Now are springs in bumpfire stocks illegal, technically no because you aren't selling shit, you're still bumpfiring. But once you start selling that shit you're in butthole widening territory.

I know, the law is ass, think back to those Mac 10 RPD and M249 uppers, they just like fucking people over for no reason.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:24 UTC+1 No.20560893 Report

>>20560632
>Ronald Reagan says no
>Ronald Reagan is not the law of the land
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:25 UTC+1 No.20560914 Report

>>20560893

Didn't that old fart kick the bucket a few years back?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:28 UTC+1 No.20560951 Report

>>20560914
yup June 2004

He also admitted in his later years he wanted to be a Demoshit, that he loved the collectivism of it all.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:30 UTC+1 No.20560977 Report

>>20560951

Thanks for the refresher. My Alzheimer's was kicking in.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:30 UTC+1 No.20560982 Report

>>20560893

he is the one who banned machine guns, signing it into law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#Registry_prohibition
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:32 UTC+1 No.20561004 Report

>>20560884
>You put the trigger housing around a dowel, push the trigger into said dowel and it emptied itself till empty.

legal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHYZp8UEEzg
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:33 UTC+1 No.20561011 Report

>>20560951
>He also admitted in his later years he wanted to be a Demoshit
He was a Democrat before becoming a Republican, wasn't he? I think that was around the same time he chaired the local CPUSA.
>>20560982
>he is the one who banned machine guns
Incorrect. Machine guns are not banned.
See why your statement makes you look stupid?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:34 UTC+1 No.20561020 Report

>slide fire stock wiggles its way through ATF's niggardly wording and establishes itself as an alternative to paying a government extortion fee of $200 and an artificially inflated price of 9 gorillion dollars
>"stabilizing braces" are blatantly intended to be fired from the shoulder and operate as a workaround to SBR laws

So, how long until the ATF pops a fucking gasket and goes full on confiscation mode? Better yet, how long until we get a fusion between a slide fire stock and a "stabilizing brace" ?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:35 UTC+1 No.20561035 Report

>>20561004
Remove the hand and it does it all by itself, which is what I was saying.

>>20560982
He didn't ban them (outright) he closed the registry

>>20561011
Not really sure if he was or not

>>20560977
No prob
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:42 UTC+1 No.20561113 Report

>>20561011
>>20561035
To be fair, machine guns manufactured after 1986 ARE banned for civilian purchase, and pre-86 machine guns have, in essence, a de-facto ban for your average gun owner due to the artificially inflated prices of the closed-off market.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:44 UTC+1 No.20561125 Report

>>20561113
SOTs are expensive and require you to be jackbooted regularly though...
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:49 UTC+1 No.20561181 Report

>>20561035
>He didn't ban them (outright) he closed the registry

same fucking thing effectively bro

enjoy ur $30,000 ar15
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:50 UTC+1 No.20561198 Report

I'm sick of you aspies bashing the FOPA as if it were a bad thing. Overall it was vast improvement in gun rights with the one caveat of banning the addition of full retards to the registry. Before the FOPA you had to fill out paperwork to buy ammo, couldn't order ammo through the mail, and didn't have safe passage through grabber states.

The issue isn't to bash FOPA or the people who passed it. It's to bash those who proposed the Hughes amendment, and the illegal procedures that got it passed.

The solution is to get it repealed at the federal level, shot down by the courts, or nullified at the state level.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:51 UTC+1 No.20561215 Report

>>20561011
>Incorrect. Machine guns are not banned.

Reagan banned the right of an American citizen to manufacture a machine gun for civilian use forever

better autist?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:54 UTC+1 No.20561249 Report

>>20561198
>Before the FOPA you had to fill out paperwork to buy ammo

nope
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:54 UTC+1 No.20561252 Report

>>20561181
>outright in brackets
>let's ignore that shit
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:55 UTC+1 No.20561266 Report

>>20561198
FOPA was all good, till the statists stuck the tip of their dick in

Now they want part of the Shaft
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:55 UTC+1 No.20561268 Report

>>20561252

>let's ignore the fact the reason we can't have full auto P90s ever is because of Ronald Reagan
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:56 UTC+1 No.20561270 Report

>>20561181
>poorfag is buttblasted he cant have full fun mode guns
enjoy for shit tier nugget faggot
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)20:57 UTC+1 No.20561280 Report

>>20561268
>implying I wasn't agreeing with you in the first place but putting what actually happened
>implying I don't know this shit
>not seeing that I put outright there to agree with your dumb ass

choke on your cheetos
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:03 UTC+1 No.20561335 Report

>>20561268
>blaming reagan
>not hughes, rangel, and the other democrats who added that amendment

shigy
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:03 UTC+1 No.20561336 Report

>>20561270

Go away Squid
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:03 UTC+1 No.20561337 Report

>>20561020

I don't know bro, but why the fuck would they give the OK to these things in just the last 3 or so years

seems really odd
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:04 UTC+1 No.20561355 Report

>>20561335

>it's OK because he had an (R) next to his name

he singed it into law and approved

but that's OK because he was not a democrat right?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/reaganak47.asp
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:04 UTC+1 No.20561356 Report

>>20561249
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#Federal_Firearms_License_regulatory_reform

>Among the reforms intended to loosen restrictions on gun ownership were the reopening of interstate sales of long guns on a limited basis, legalization of ammunition shipments through the U.S. Postal Service (a partial repeal of the Gun Control Act), removal of the requirement for record keeping on sales of non-armor-piercing ammunition, and federal protection of transportation of firearms through states where possession of those firearms would otherwise be illegal
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deleted 03/26/14(Wed)21:05 UTC+1 No.20561364 Report

>>20560893
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:06 UTC+1 No.20561380 Report

>>20561356

as an oldfag I can tell you that back in the 70s and 80s you could walk into a store and pay cash for ammo with no paperwork
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:14 UTC+1 No.20561484 Report

>>20561020
>fusion between a slide fire stock and a "stabilizing brace" ?

fuck everything, I'm going to make one
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:15 UTC+1 No.20561489 Report

>>20560982
While I disagree with the premise of outlawing anything that the police have access to, I tend to agree that full auto is fairly unnecessary for pretty much anything outside of small unit tactics and suppressive fire. Suppressive fire works just about as well with semi auto anyways. Why do people have such a hard on over full auto anyways? I'd much rather see full auto be outlawed than stupid "scary": shit like forward grips.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:17 UTC+1 No.20561518 Report

>>20561355
So reagan was a fudd. Big deal. My point is that FOPA was a net win for gun rights, despite the full auto registry close that the democrats put in.

Besides, it'd be trivially simple to defeat in court.

1. Machine guns weren't banned in 1939 because that would have been unconstitutional. They knew that then, which is why they were (absurdly) taxed, and a registration system was set up in place not to keep track of machine guns, but to keep track of taxes, similar to how the us taxed alcohol and tobacco (hence the atf).

2. Yes, the tax was prohibitively high at the time, but keep in mind that poll taxes and other taxes were commonly used as a barrier to keep certain groups from exercising their constitutional rights, so this was considered acceptable and normal. Rulings since then have shown that you can't put an undue burden on peoples rights.

3. Machine guns weren't banned, they just closed the tax registry for new weapons. It should be trivial to argue that if you are required to pay a tax on something, yet they refuse to accept your payment of that tax, then you shouldn't be guilty of tax evasion.

4. It could be further argued that $200 is an undue burden on exercising your constitutional rights to keep and bear militia class weaponry (which miller and heller guarantee you), especially since the court has ruled that $5 for a voter ID card was undue burden on the right to vote.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:17 UTC+1 No.20561520 Report

>>20561489


>While I disagree with the premise of outlawing anything that the police have access to, I tend to agree that 11 round mags are fairly unnecessary for pretty much anything outside of small unit tactics and suppressive fire. Suppressive fire works just about as well with 10rd anyways. Why do people have such a hard on over full cap mags anyways? I'd much rather see mags be outlawed than stupid "scary": shit like forward grips.

I guess when a republican bans mags everyone will be ok with it and say they didn't want them anyway
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:19 UTC+1 No.20561538 Report

>>20561518
>Besides, it'd be trivially simple to defeat in court.

it's been many decades and no such thing has come close to happening
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:20 UTC+1 No.20561552 Report

>>20561518
>3. Machine guns weren't banned, they just closed the tax registry for new weapons. It should be trivial to argue that if you are required to pay a tax on something, yet they refuse to accept your payment of that tax, then you shouldn't be guilty of tax evasion.
>4. It could be further argued that $200 is an undue burden on exercising your constitutional rights to keep and bear militia class weaponry (which miller and heller guarantee you), especially since the court has ruled that $5 for a voter ID card was undue burden on the right to vote.

>I don't know anything about how laws work or what is going on at all

i see

good luck with that
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:21 UTC+1 No.20561565 Report

>>20561538
The heller decision only happened in 2008, and since then the courts have been striking down gun control laws left & right.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:25 UTC+1 No.20561601 Report

>>20561565

not anything related to machine guns or similar shit

heller was good but it was about rights in the home, i don't see that as related to opening the NFA books at all

there has never been a serious challenge to the NFA laws in the 80 years they have been on the books, they have only become more strict with the banning NFA imports in 1968, the ban on new manufacture of machine guns in 1986 and the ability of individual states to stop even those who legally have done the background check and possesses an NFA item from keeping their possessions when moving their residence from one state to another
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:28 UTC+1 No.20561630 Report

>>20561538

How many people have tried?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:33 UTC+1 No.20561689 Report

>>20561630

really?

nobody bro, your ideas are totally original, go make a machine gun and get busted then use your logic as a defense and free us all with the SCOTUS decision in your favor...

ill be waiting with a gun,

and a pack of sandwiches
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:37 UTC+1 No.20561739 Report

>>20561689

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU7sUENatUU

unrelated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCD14IrOcIs
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:38 UTC+1 No.20561750 Report

>>20561113
Right. So to be fair, Reagan did not ban machineguns and saying he did would be false.
>>20561215
So you agree with me and see how your previous statement was false.
Can you still buy a machinegun in the US?
>Yes
Machine guns are not banned. Now get thee back to /pol/.
>>20561198
What most day/k/are CoD kiddies don't know is that FOPA was probably the biggest pro-gun law ever passed since the signing of the Constitution. The Hughs Amendment was a horrible, illegal violation of our rights but it really doesn't impact the average gun owner in any way.
>>20561565
And upholding others. Meanwhile, the cities and states who have lost court challenges reenact their bans almost the next day using slightly different language.
>>20561630
There is simply no momentum in the gun owning community to overturn Hughs. Most people didn't own FA weapons before 1986 and the people who did have seen there guns become investments worth 10x to 100x what they paid for them.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:41 UTC+1 No.20561788 Report

>>20561750
>Can you still buy a machinegun in the US?
>>Yes

they are banned from being manufactured forever, and in some states you cannot legally buy a machine gun no matter what, period

get rekt

>Obama was not trying to ban 30round mags because some people could still have them via a grandfather clause
>if they banned all manufacture of ammo it would not be banned become some people would have old ammo
>this is you:

Nothing has ever been banned or ever will be no matter how many bans are enacted XD
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:50 UTC+1 No.20561886 Report

>>20561215
wait, it was possible to make a MG yourself for civilian use legal in the US?
Didn´t know about that.

[spoiler]>tfw having blueprints of various MG´s[/spoiler]
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)21:51 UTC+1 No.20561900 Report

>>20561788
>they are banned from being manufactured forever
Which is not the same as "banned" as a blanket statement.
Can you buy an MG?
>yes
Not banned.
>some states
How many states was Reagan governor of in 1986?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)22:05 UTC+1 No.20562037 Report

>>20561900

you are right bro, my mistake

there is no ban on machine guns in the USA, why would anyone think that LOL?
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)22:08 UTC+1 No.20562063 Report

>>20561886

yes prior to May 1986 you could either buy an M16 or make a full auto AR15 your self by filling out the same form you would currently use to manufacture an SBR

Ronald Reagan ended that when he banned the manufacture of machine guns for civilians
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)22:21 UTC+1 No.20562183 Report

What flash hider is that?
Also I'm pretty sure the Akins Accelerator had a spring in it and that's why they banned it.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)22:25 UTC+1 No.20562208 Report

>>20562183

they approved it in writing then years later started prosecuting people for owning them
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)22:31 UTC+1 No.20562267 Report

>>20561035

Okay so if you take away the guy's hand... which is pressing the gun forward and therefore pulling the trigger...

It would spin around on the dowel and do nothing.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)22:38 UTC+1 No.20562336 Report

>>20561518

If its illegal to have unregistered machine guns

and

It's impossible to register new machine guns

The production or import of machine guns in the united states is effectively banned.

tl;dr

you're splitting hairs to try and make a point and failing miserably considering the constitutional amendment clearly states without exception or restriction the right to bear arms.
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)23:14 UTC+1 No.20562681 Report

>>20559254
>>20559254
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0f7OCnrrpk


>implying you would not be arrested for actually doing this

good luck using that for self defense

someone is going to shoot up a school with one of those
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Anonymous 03/26/14(Wed)23:17 UTC+1 No.20562713 Report

>>20561689
>a gun,
>and a pack of sandwiches
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:04 UTC+1 No.20563243 Report

>>20562037
Apology accepted.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:08 UTC+1 No.20563290 Report

>>20563243

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_mrNQBLSMU
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:12 UTC+1 No.20563328 Report

>>20559352

>i don't see the benefit to having a full auto ar.

Because its fun?
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:16 UTC+1 No.20563371 Report

>>20563328

liberal gun grabbers like Ronald Reagan don't seem to think so
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:20 UTC+1 No.20563419 Report

>>20562713
Look at those titties giggle.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:28 UTC+1 No.20563524 Report

>>20561380
I did then and I still do. I live in Illinois and it's still a paperwork free transaction. Show FOID, pay for ammo and walk out.

I have been inna couple LGS's that want to record my ID number but I nope the fuck out. Itel tey why they won't see anymore f my money and never look back.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:31 UTC+1 No.20563564 Report

>>20559254
only a matter of time
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:32 UTC+1 No.20563569 Report

>>20559254
You're seriously talking about that stupid stock and not the TacCon 3MR mall ninja special?
http://youtu.be/eQtCTUq4Y_I
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:34 UTC+1 No.20563598 Report

>>20563569
That thing is such a sham. Go watch some actual videos of it in operation.

No different than bumpfiring without some faggy $500 trigger.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:35 UTC+1 No.20563607 Report

>>20563598
so is the fudd bumpfire stock imo
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:37 UTC+1 No.20563638 Report

>>20563607
I've actually used a slidefire. It does work better than bumpfiring from the shoulder. Maybe not $200 or whatever they charge better, but still.

Every 3MR vid that isn't that dolled up edited promo shows how little it actually does work.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:43 UTC+1 No.20563726 Report

>>20563638
I'd like to try them both myself tbh
too bad I don't have any money... or friends with money
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:49 UTC+1 No.20563804 Report

>>20563638
I've seen people shoot faster than the 3MR with geissele and even gi triggers just by, you guessed it, pulling the trigger really fast. Tac con is exactly that, a con - you pay $500 for literal trigger slap that they claim is an advantage.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:52 UTC+1 No.20563852 Report

>>20563607
>so is the fudd bumpfire stock imo

the slidefire actually works really well
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:54 UTC+1 No.20563882 Report

>>20563607
>fudd

Learn what the fucking term means before you attempt to use it, newfag.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:56 UTC+1 No.20563913 Report

>>20563882
I know what it means
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:56 UTC+1 No.20563915 Report

>>20563607
That is most certainly not fudd.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:58 UTC+1 No.20563950 Report

>>20563913
Clearly not, otherwise you would know that fudds don't own shit like slidefire stocks, and fudds don't bumpfire.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)00:59 UTC+1 No.20563952 Report

>>20563915
>>20563882
What is the target demographic for the bumpfire stock?
If you think it's not the same people who sporterize SKSs...
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:00 UTC+1 No.20563975 Report

>>20563952
People who want to have fun, mostly.

And sportorizing anything doesn't automatically make you a fudd.

Sportarizing an SKS is bubba, not fudd.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:03 UTC+1 No.20564001 Report

>>20563952
>>20563952
>What is the target demographic for the bumpfire stock?

people who have several firearms, and a few ARs and are looking for something different that won't fuck up their firearm with excessive modification or land them in prison

it's a load of fun

>mfw we were shooting a slidefire at the range and 2 sheriff deputies came over to inspect it thinking it was FA
>then they asked if they could dump a mag each out of it in exchange for 2 boxes of Ranger T ammo they had
>fuck yes, also it does not hurt to make friends with some local copbros

everything went better than exacted
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:05 UTC+1 No.20564025 Report

>>20564001
>exacted

expected

also i didn't post a face so here you go
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:06 UTC+1 No.20564039 Report

>>20563950
>fudds don't bumpfire
You've never met one who thinks his mini-14 is the shit and he can hit a coyote with iron sights at 300 yards with it AND shoot real fast if he had to ; )
>>20563975
>Sportarizing an SKS is bubba, not fudd.
I think your splitting hairs and it depends on what's done.
>>20564001
>people who have several firearms, and a few ARs and are looking for something different that won't fuck up their firearm with excessive modification or land them in prison
I would wager they are in the minority

Y'all must not know fudds with money who live in the middle of nowhere and come to the LGS to bullshit.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:08 UTC+1 No.20564068 Report

>>20564039
>>>20564001 (You)
>>people who have several firearms, and a few ARs and are looking for something different that won't fuck up their firearm with excessive modification or land them in prison
>I would wager they are in the minority

well who the fuck do you think is buying them?

Housewives who don't have any firearms?
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:09 UTC+1 No.20564077 Report

>>20564039
>You've never met one who thinks his mini-14 is the shit and he can hit a coyote with iron sights at 300 yards with it AND shoot real fast if he had to ; )
>mini-14
>fudd
No. Bubba, maybe.

But fudds own winchesteremingtonby bolt action durr rifles and shotguns with maybe a hunting revolver tossed in. And they DESPISE shooting quickly.

And I'm not "splitting hairs".

This terminology is fucking ancient on /k/, you're the one who doesn't know the accepted definitions.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:13 UTC+1 No.20564131 Report

>>20564039

do you fucking know what fudd means?

it means someone who has a .270 for hunting and does not care if they ban everything else
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:25 UTC+1 No.20564285 Report

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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:27 UTC+1 No.20564312 Report

/k/, what happens once the ATF is disbanded and FOPA is dismissed?
W-what happens to all the semi-autos out there?
Surely we'll have a conversion program, right?
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:29 UTC+1 No.20564339 Report

>>20564312
>/k/, what happens once the ATF is disbanded and FOPA is dismissed?

don't hold your breath
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:33 UTC+1 No.20564369 Report

>>20564339
I can't hold it for more than 3 minutes at a time, anon.
Tfw highschool varsity swim team left behind to be filled with scrubs
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:33 UTC+1 No.20564384 Report

>>20564369
>highschool varsity swim team

be honest and tell us about shaving other guy's balls
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:36 UTC+1 No.20564419 Report

>>20564285
shes really good at not hitting her intended target
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:37 UTC+1 No.20564435 Report

>>20564369
>I can't hold it for more than 3 minutes at a time
right about perfect to give an awesome blowjob, so at least you've got that going for you
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:40 UTC+1 No.20564478 Report

>>20564131
>someone who has a .270 for hunting
Stupid question but is that a bad caliber or something?
Why is using .270 undesirable?
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:42 UTC+1 No.20564507 Report

>>20564384
Fucking gross. No one shaves their balls for swim team, are you stupid?
Ass hair on the other hand...
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:43 UTC+1 No.20564525 Report

>>20564507
Better for locker room buttfucking then, huh? 8)
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:46 UTC+1 No.20564554 Report

>>20564478
.270 is a great hunting caliber, but no one ever uses it in 'tactical' guns. that's why it is associated with fudds.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)01:50 UTC+1 No.20564610 Report

>>20564478
>Why is using .270 undesirable?

it's not

defending the right to own only the kind of action (bolt) firearm you happen to own is undesirable
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:07 UTC+1 No.20564878 Report

>>20564554
also to expand on this 7mm mag is pretty similar to .270.
in AR platforms you can use 6.5/6.8mm which have nice flat trajectories like the .270.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:10 UTC+1 No.20564920 Report

>>20564878
OK just because I'm getting really confused now

if .270, 7mm mag, 6.5/6.8mm all have such flat trajectories

then why do militaries and police prefer .223/5.56 and .308 ?
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:13 UTC+1 No.20564977 Report

>>20564920
Mostly because you don't need to be able to reliably reach out and touch something at 400+ yards if you're the police and the recoil is worse than .30-06
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:17 UTC+1 No.20565024 Report

So I know of lightning links and what they do, but looking at them they look incredibly easy to make if you had the necessary tools and design specs. Why don't you hear of retards getting busted with them all the time?

Please don't rape my face ATF. I don't even own an AR-15
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:20 UTC+1 No.20565072 Report

>>20565024
>Why don't you hear of retards getting busted with them all the time?
I would guess that most people who would go to the trouble of making their own lightning link know better than to let everyone know they have it.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:23 UTC+1 No.20565092 Report

>>20565072
That's what I thought too, but after Sandy Vagina everyone and their mother bought an AR-15. Plenty of idiots have one now, and idiots are well known to do idiotic things like make a lightning link and brag about it.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)02:47 UTC+1 No.20565422 Report

>>20565092

it happens

fairly often
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)03:06 UTC+1 No.20565688 Report

>>20565422
>it happens fairly often
source?

>>20564878
>if .270, 7mm mag, 6.5/6.8mm all have such flat trajectories then why do militaries and police prefer .223/5.56 and .308 ?
because they use what gun manufacturers do the best job of sales pitching. then tactical kids copy them thinking they're super tactical swat operator secret police.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)03:18 UTC+1 No.20565858 Report

>>20561689
I like that song
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)03:30 UTC+1 No.20566040 Report

>>20565858
i liek u
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)03:55 UTC+1 No.20566364 Report

>>20563950
>fudds don't bumpfire
okay, sport. Whatever you say.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)03:57 UTC+1 No.20566404 Report

>>20564554
>no one uses .270 in tactical guns
>what is 6.8SPC
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)03:57 UTC+1 No.20566407 Report

>>20566364
That's slam-fire sweetheart. Don't worry, you'll get it right one day.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)04:01 UTC+1 No.20566461 Report

>>20566407
Unless you are a beautiful woman and you are ready to put your rosy red bottom in the air for me, don't call me sweetheart.
>slamfire is a malfunction where the sear trips after the bolt cycles. like an SKS with a sticky firing pin
You'll get it right some day, faggot.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)06:24 UTC+1 No.20568492 Report

>>20559254
>How long until the ATF goes back on saying these are legal and puts everyone who bought one in PMITA prison?

if you tried to shoot that thing at most ranges you would at least spend the night in jail
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)09:54 UTC+1 No.20570255 Report

>>20559375
Making liberals cry is illegal in Kalifornia

Dem "Multiburst Trigger Activators" only good for killing innocent children here.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)10:04 UTC+1 No.20570302 Report

>>20570255
the true face of gun control has already been exposed you malevolent swine!

"Federal Pound Leeland Yee in the ass Prison" is due to be opening soon.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)10:10 UTC+1 No.20570327 Report

>>20570302
Don't forget Delon trying to ban paintball, arishit, and "Ghost Guns".

The situation with Yee is hysterical though:
>Campaign to ban guns
>Run guns to support anti-gun campaign

If that isn't irony, hypocrisy, and hilarity bundled together. Not surprised either considering he tried to ban my vidya games too.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)11:12 UTC+1 No.20570549 Report

>>20570255
>>>20559375
> Making liberals cry is illegal in Kalifornia
> Dem "Multiburst Trigger Activators" only good for killing innocent children here.

>Mocking "liberals" when the person who banned production of machine guns was.....

see:

>>20560982
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)11:22 UTC+1 No.20570580 Report

>>20570327
>Delon trying to ban paintball

is that actually true
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)14:05 UTC+1 No.20571132 Report

>>20570580

sort of
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)14:15 UTC+1 No.20571164 Report

>>20561020
>fusion between a slide fire stock and a "stabilizing brace"
> I am now imagining a slide fire AR not-an-SBR

I need dis
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)14:36 UTC+1 No.20571267 Report

>>20571164

i think it would be legal, i don't see why not
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)14:58 UTC+1 No.20571378 Report

>>20570327
Jesus he has the worst hairpiece I've ever seen
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)17:21 UTC+1 No.20572238 Report

>>20571378

I know

how can he go to work everyday and nobody tells him it looks ridiculous
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)17:26 UTC+1 No.20572300 Report

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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)18:22 UTC+1 No.20572758 Report

>>20570580
Yes, they've tried to do it twice and they're trying to do it again right now

The bans also have encompassed airsoft guns.

This is a big deal because airsoft and paintball are huge in california
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)18:29 UTC+1 No.20572828 Report

>>20572758

I think they not banning paintball, only paintball guns that look exactly like real firearms and they are not "banning" airsoft but they are making anyone who imports or manufactures them for profit paint them bright colors because several children have been killed by police who saw them playing with real looking toys
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)18:35 UTC+1 No.20572872 Report

>>20566364

Thats an M1912, dummy.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)18:44 UTC+1 No.20572942 Report

>>20561489
people have a hard-on for it because they cant have it most people wouldnt even be able to fire full auto effectively most fags on here just equate any bans, no matter how sound it is, as totalitarian dictatorship which will lead to more bans till they have nothing even though some places are getting more lenient in there laws regarding guns
basically /k/ is a bunch of fear-mongering mouthbreathers
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)18:50 UTC+1 No.20572988 Report

>>20572942

what is hilarious is that no registered NFA machine gun had ever been used in a crime, people who were willing to be fingerprinted and wait months for a background check were not using them for crimes, in effect the registration was working perfectly and there was no issue or problem of any kind

Reagan literally banned production for no fucking reason

none
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)19:18 UTC+1 No.20573196 Report

>>20572988

mfw
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)19:59 UTC+1 No.20573559 Report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvr0rSaFgZE

650 RPM

deal with it
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)20:36 UTC+1 No.20573879 Report

>>20559254
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0f7OCnrrpk [Embed]

lol

it's like they want to go to prison

>please ATF put me in prison, I don't like being outside
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)20:52 UTC+1 No.20574015 Report

>>20559468
Id take one with a glassfiber stock over the retractable stock though, more comfortable recoil and lighter.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)20:53 UTC+1 No.20574022 Report

>>20574015

a guy on the hkpro forums is talking about tooling up to make and sell a bumpfire for the 5.56 HK
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)20:59 UTC+1 No.20574065 Report

>>20572988
>what is hilarious is that no registered NFA machine gun had ever been used in a crime, people who were willing to be fingerprinted and wait months for a background check were not using them for crimes, in effect the registration was working perfectly and there was no issue or problem of any kind
>Reagan literally banned production for no fucking reason

;_;
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)21:27 UTC+1 No.20574319 Report

>>20572828
Give the police guns with 16lb trigger pulls instead of banning it.
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Anonymous 03/27/14(Thu)21:32 UTC+1 No.20574376 Report

>>20574319

they tried that in NY, it made things worse

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/25/nypd-shooting-bystander-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire/
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Anonymous 03/28/14(Fri)01:02 UTC+1 No.20576763 Report

If having a full auto weapon is so useless, why does the ATF hate them?
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Anonymous 03/28/14(Fri)01:58 UTC+1 No.20577573 Report

>>20576763

The ATF simply enforces the laws.

The people who went to the trouble to ban their creation and import were in Congress and the White House in 1986

IMO the average american does not even know they are banned from being manufactured and thinks if someone wants one they have to pay the tax and to the background check then they can make their new PS90 (or whatever) a machine gun
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