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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:05 UTC+1 No.5011831 Report

What is the most intellectually challenging pursuit there is?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:05 UTC+1 No.5011834 Report

Making millions of dollars.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:08 UTC+1 No.5011843 Report

math's
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:08 UTC+1 No.5011845 Report

>>5011834
/thread
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:09 UTC+1 No.5011850 Report

Absolute truth
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:10 UTC+1 No.5011853 Report

>feminine virtue
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:12 UTC+1 No.5011860 Report

>>5011843
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:13 UTC+1 No.5011862 Report

>>5011831
NEET
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:14 UTC+1 No.5011866 Report

>>5011850
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:20 UTC+1 No.5011889 Report

Math is the wrong answer, don't be dumb. Clearly the most challenging intellectual pursuit is in accruing the world's wealth, others vying to do the same thing. Math is basically masturbation.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:31 UTC+1 No.5011945 Report

>>5011889
That one is not intellectually challenging. It requires a lot of luck, not having empathy, being hard working as fuck, and probably others but none require abstract and logical thinking skills, which is what's being referred here, most likely.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:33 UTC+1 No.5011951 Report

Theoretical physics, I imagine.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:36 UTC+1 No.5011959 Report

>>5011853
It actually helps that virtue can't be taught because women can't learn a goddamn thing.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:37 UTC+1 No.5011964 Report

>>5011951
What makes it more intellectually challenging than any other theoretical area, or philosophy?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:37 UTC+1 No.5011967 Report

science
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:40 UTC+1 No.5011979 Report

ITT: People confuse practical with intellectually challenging.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:41 UTC+1 No.5011985 Report

>>5011964
That it's actually constrained by reality and actual tests. You can just bullshit your way and say U CAN KNO NUTIN'-
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:41 UTC+1 No.5011987 Report

>>5011951
Maths is more intellectually challenging.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:42 UTC+1 No.5011991 Report

>>5011985
*can't
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:43 UTC+1 No.5011998 Report

Being retarded.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:44 UTC+1 No.5012002 Report

>>5011987
prove it
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:44 UTC+1 No.5012005 Report

>>5011985
Oh, nice, you barely answered half the question and showed off your ignorance in regards to philosophy. Also you're not constrained anymore than you are with philosophy or other areas, you have to keep in mind previous studies but you can safely make up any sort of bullshit so long as current knowledge doesn't disprove it.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:44 UTC+1 No.5012006 Report

Finding the easiest way to spend your life and the most happiest.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:45 UTC+1 No.5012009 Report

>>5011987
Theoretical physics is essentially very heavily maths based, if not entirely.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:46 UTC+1 No.5012011 Report

>>5012002
There are things in matsh that are harder to prove than anything in physics.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:46 UTC+1 No.5012012 Report

>>5012009
So?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:47 UTC+1 No.5012016 Report

>>5012002
lel, do you even revelations? No proof is needed. only trust.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:47 UTC+1 No.5012019 Report

>>5012009
That's true but maths is a broader subject area field.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:49 UTC+1 No.5012028 Report

>>5011985
Unless you're on the frontier that makes it less challenging
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:50 UTC+1 No.5012030 Report

Probably the Platonic dialogues. I don't understand why people say math when math is just a tool? It's like lifting weights, either you can do it or you can't. But math is incapable of challenging. I would suppose, actually then, that debates between theorhtetical physicists would involve the most profound intellectual challenges of modern times
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:52 UTC+1 No.5012039 Report

>>5012030
You haven't studied any math beyond like high school algebra or maybe some calculus if you think this.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:53 UTC+1 No.5012045 Report

BTW I think people in this thread should look up what "challenge" means, it's different from "demanding" or "difficult"
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:54 UTC+1 No.5012054 Report

>>5012030
Math is not so black and white as people believe, it may be a tool but that is irrelevant, the higher and more abstract the mathematics become the greater the need for more abstract thought and creativity.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:56 UTC+1 No.5012062 Report

>>5012039
Look up what challenge means. It seems you never made it past high school english
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:56 UTC+1 No.5012064 Report

There is nothing "intellectually challenging" about learning something that has already been proved. The reasoning is already out there, all that's left for you is to interpret a slight bit and absorb the information.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:56 UTC+1 No.5012067 Report

>>5012045
Definition of challenging: "testing one's abilities; demanding."
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:57 UTC+1 No.5012068 Report

>>5011945
Sure bro, you tell yourself that.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:57 UTC+1 No.5012069 Report

>>5012062
Math requires the greatest degree of creative thought at the higher levels.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:57 UTC+1 No.5012070 Report

>>5012054
Sure, and at those levels plenty of challenging goes on between mathmeticians
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)20:57 UTC+1 No.5012071 Report

>>5012054
math isn't even hard, it just seems hard in school because they force kids to go through 400 years of math in 3 semesters, after you get past the basics it slows down
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:00 UTC+1 No.5012085 Report

>>5012067
You don't just get to "pick" the definition you like and ignore all other connotations. Challenging does very really imply that one accepted idea is being challenged by another, and this is inseparable. Math, at least what all of us call math, is not really challenging because its not like we invented a calculus that's being challenged, we are simply putting new knowledge to our minds that is difficult
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:00 UTC+1 No.5012086 Report

>>5012071
I couldn't disagree more, once you get to the higher more theoretical levels of mathematics it is incredibly challenging.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:01 UTC+1 No.5012093 Report

>>5012071
I was a math olympiad in school, and you're wrong.
That said, neither math nor philosophy is most the most intellectually challenging (and definitely not philosophy), but making money. And that should be blatanly fucking obvious. The money game is the great game of life.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:01 UTC+1 No.5012097 Report

>>5012069
Well I suppose your argument has potential, it could be so that the most intellectual challenges occur in math departments. Do any of us have first hand, informed knowledge of these challenges?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:03 UTC+1 No.5012104 Report

>>5012085
I'm not talking about learning existing knowledge regarding maths, which is relatively easy, I'm talking about being the one who creates the knowledge. And I can just pick the definition I want, because I believe this definition of the word applies to this situation.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:04 UTC+1 No.5012106 Report

>>5012093
Of course, i'm just saying differential equations are scary on a pop quiz at 9am on monday morning after a weekend of partying but if you just learn them on your own it's pretty trivial and i do agree capitalism (industry, finance, whatever) is the ultimate because affects reality, which is to say widgets get produced, people get paid and history moves
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:04 UTC+1 No.5012107 Report

>>5012097
It's a matter of knowing what applies, anon. Mathematical description is obviously the most broadly applicable description that there is.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:05 UTC+1 No.5012112 Report

>>5012107
math in school is ultimately just a formula memorizing contest, which is challenging but not as hard as making a fortune in a capitalist economy, you can't memorize your way to a billion dollar startup
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:06 UTC+1 No.5012119 Report

>>5012093
Philosophy is more challenging than math but its still up for debate whether either is more difficult. Of course, I assume we're speaking in terms of an averaged individual, yeah?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:07 UTC+1 No.5012124 Report

>>5012112
Yes, I'm the dude saying the money game is the greatest intellectual pursuit. Just giving math a big up over philosophy.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:07 UTC+1 No.5012126 Report

>>5012104
I need you to argue then why math challenges previous maths more than any other science or philosophy
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:08 UTC+1 No.5012130 Report

>>5012093
>definitely not philosophy
Why do STEM-fags get so angry about a subject they know nothing about?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:08 UTC+1 No.5012131 Report

>>5012119
No it isn't, you're an idiot.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:09 UTC+1 No.5012134 Report

>>5012131
nice arguments
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:09 UTC+1 No.5012135 Report

>>5012124
oh ok, i agree then, philosophy is mostly stupid, i mean the most relevant philosophers are really just historians and economists (nietzsche, marx, foucault, etc.) these dudes that waste their whole life twisting their whiskers wonder what "to be" means need to fuck off
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:09 UTC+1 No.5012138 Report

>>5012112
Although making a fortune is not easy, I wouldn't exactly call it the most intellectually challenging pursuit. It requires a lot of luck, and the persistence, and a good business sense. but honestly, from what I've seen, luck is 50% of it.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:10 UTC+1 No.5012141 Report

>>5012107
Yes, but philosophy applies to every aspect of life much more directly. Wouldn't a study that literally challenges everything be tautologically the most challenging? I would say many basic mathematics are not challenged by anyone
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:10 UTC+1 No.5012142 Report

>>5012135
And abstract math are better than that because
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:10 UTC+1 No.5012144 Report

>>5012130
Who's angry? I just think you're absurd and delusional. Protip: Everything is predicated on philosophy. Concentrating on anything else means you've finished with philosophy. Most people do so by the time they're 2 years old.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:11 UTC+1 No.5012147 Report

>>5012131
Do you even know what challenging means? Philosophy is literally about challenging every aspect of everything. It has to be the most challenging
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:11 UTC+1 No.5012148 Report

>>5012144
It's great how you still haven't taken the time to look up what philosophy is
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:12 UTC+1 No.5012152 Report

Why do you ask? Do you enjoy being mentally challenged?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:12 UTC+1 No.5012153 Report

>>5012135
seems that instead of philosophy being stupid, you simply don't understand the point of the core value of it... Insecurity you think of as superiority. btw, how's Wikipedia treating you?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:12 UTC+1 No.5012154 Report

oh ok as far as creating new mathematical breakthroughs i would say it's vastly more difficult than philosophy, philosophy just changes with contemporary tastes, it's pretty much meaningless
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:13 UTC+1 No.5012156 Report

Looks like I'm going to have to be that guy. While this is a subjectively posed question, I feel the answer is art. I had to double check to make sure I wasn't on /sci/, just from the replies to this thread. Art not only requires deep levels of understanding in math, science, history, social construct and ideological thought; it also requires the ability to create and to use your brain not only in ways you haven't done before, but in ways that possibly nobody has done before. In addition to this it also requires mastery of the technical skills of a certain medium: be it prose, paint, or paper mâché.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:13 UTC+1 No.5012157 Report

>>5012148
Philosophy is politics and psychology discussed by laymen --and because they're autistic, basically. Not that I don't think people should make themselves aware of other perspectives, though; just that it's not hard.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:13 UTC+1 No.5012158 Report

>>5012135
Or maybe you never studied the relevant ones and project your ignorance onto others? Try Wittgenstein, Heidegger
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:14 UTC+1 No.5012162 Report

>>5012153
how's wasting three thousand years getting no-where treating you?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:15 UTC+1 No.5012164 Report

>>5012142
He's not making sense, mathematics is all purely abstract, it doesn't get any more or less
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:15 UTC+1 No.5012165 Report

>>5012126
That sentence doesn't really make any sense, but I'll argue my case for theoretical physics because that's what my response was originally. I'm not saying philosophy is easy, but theoretical physicists and philosophers both come with an hypothesis, an idea. With philosophy it stays and idea, with theoretical physics, it needs to be proven which is often incredibly difficult. And that is why theoretical physics is more challenging than philosophy.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:15 UTC+1 No.5012167 Report

>>5012156
>it also requires the ability to create and to use your brain not only in ways you haven't done before, but in ways that possibly nobody has done before

if you think originality has anything to do with art then you don't know much about art, art may be a lot of things but originality it isn't
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:16 UTC+1 No.5012169 Report

>>5011964
Lol philosophy is a dossers degree
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:16 UTC+1 No.5012171 Report

>>5012165
A quote by a brilliantly stupid man I know: "The only things that are complex are math equations and the weather."
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:18 UTC+1 No.5012180 Report

>>5012030
>Platonic dialogues

My lels are in orbit. If a poorly written collection of straw man fallacies is "intellectually challenging" to you, then reading comprehension obviously isn't your strong suit. When did you drop out of elementary school?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:18 UTC+1 No.5012181 Report

>>5012162
if you think it hasn't transformed every aspect of human life and thought you're hopelessly ignorant.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:19 UTC+1 No.5012184 Report

>>5012162
What does "getting somewhere" mean?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:22 UTC+1 No.5012191 Report

>>5012165
>>5012171
You're missing my point. Stop using challenging when you mean difficult. Challenging has certain connotations that can be avoided by using the right word choice. Philosophers challenge things; that is the study. Physics challenges much less, you don't take a physics approach to challenge government or society, for instance. But, I would agree that since mathematics and physics are very difficult, that the challenges that occur in these departments must be very intellectual.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:23 UTC+1 No.5012197 Report

>>5012184
when people study science they don't have to start with the greeks and learn multiple millenia of wrong stuff just to get to current knowledge, yet philosophy you have to learn every dumb idea some douche thought up for thousands of years
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:24 UTC+1 No.5012204 Report

>>5012180
Again, let's come to terms with what we're saying when we mean challenging, because you're using it as a substitute for "difficult" and are so tunnel-visioned on pissing further than other anonymous posters that you aren't thinking semantically.

Using "difficult" when you mean difficult, using "challenging" when you mean it challenges current modes of thought
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:25 UTC+1 No.5012207 Report

>>5012191
who can put a more effective "challenge" against policy for global warming? a scientist or a guy who reads dead languages and argues about how many angels dance on the head of a pin
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:25 UTC+1 No.5012209 Report

>>5012191
That's such dumbass semantics bro. Fucking law or gambling or something is the most challenging intellectual pursuit then.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:25 UTC+1 No.5012210 Report

>>5012197
There are still problems in many of the sciences that reoccur from the old times. Hell, we didn't even expand on Aristotle's symbolic logic until less than two centuries ago.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:26 UTC+1 No.5012218 Report

Happiness.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:27 UTC+1 No.5012221 Report

The money/power game is the realm of the true kings of the universe.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:27 UTC+1 No.5012222 Report

>>5012209
The sorts of gambling that are challenging (poker) generally aren't very intellectually demanding. There's no challenging in the most intellectual gambling, card counting black jack
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:27 UTC+1 No.5012223 Report

>>5012218
get money, fuck bitches. next customer please.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:28 UTC+1 No.5012227 Report

>>5012207
Considering that argument falls under the reign of philosophy, it would be a scientists practicing philosophical argumentation.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:29 UTC+1 No.5012230 Report

>>5012222
Poker fucking owns, mate. The game is literally about controlling the intellects of those you're playing with. Also, I'm just going by your dumb standards whereby every bet is to challenge whom it's made with.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:30 UTC+1 No.5012235 Report

>>5012230
(I own at poker btw, I've bought 2 cars from it.)
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:33 UTC+1 No.5012239 Report

>>5012204
In this case it is clear OP is asking what the most difficult intellectual pursuit is, and I'm using his terminology for my responses. Although it is true that there are different connotations between the words challenging and difficult, they are small, and not worthy of discussion in a thread where it is largely irrelevant.

One connotation of challenging is difficult, all of the connotations of a word do not need to be taken into a account every time a word is used, different connotations are applied depending on the context. It is clear in my response that the connotation is 'difficult'.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:33 UTC+1 No.5012243 Report

>>5012230
Yes, challenges are very literally a situation in which one person, who poses a front, is confronted by another. Calling another person's bluff is a type of challenge. Arguments of all sorts are challenges.

The only grey area comes from when you consider the possibility of an individual challenging themselves. In order to challenge yourself, you must first believe that you can't or won't do something, and then you challenge that belief by trying to beat it. Of course, this self challenge will probably always result in difficulties, which is why the words are so closely related. This latter sort of challenging, which is what I believe the OP was actually intending with his question, really is a stupid question, because what is most challenging for any individual will be relative to that individual's skills; assuming, of course, that we can rule out the impossible (a three year old can't be challenged to read five hundred books before the age of five, perhaps that would be impossible)
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:34 UTC+1 No.5012247 Report

>>5012223

Maybe the day you will get enough money, and fuck enough bitches, you will eventually realize how wrong you are.

But maybe not.

Maybe you're one of those horses who will never get to the carrot, and will die thinking the carrot you're put in front of your horse mouth, is the juiciest carrot there is.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:35 UTC+1 No.5012252 Report

>>5012239
>they are small, and not worthy of discussion in a thread where it is largely irrelevant.
Small differences make the world in arguments. Whatever is most difficult is a stupid question, as all people have differently formed faculties, and thus each person's toughest challenge will be unique to them. If you want to try to establish the individual that represents the average of many characteristics and try to figure out what's most intellectually difficult for them, then go ahead, but that argument is very speculative without any scientific evidence
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:36 UTC+1 No.5012253 Report

>>5012239
also op used the phrase "intellectually challenging" not "challenging" which puts a much narrower range of interpretation for "challenging", that philosophy kid was just falling back on what all philosophers do when their irrelevance has been established: squabble over words, philosophy is really just a childish word game. if you wasted your life on that you fucked up.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:36 UTC+1 No.5012254 Report

Structural engineering. Taking architects' retarded designs and making them possible, taking financiers absurdly low estimates and shaving off nickels and dimes to make that work, in addition to having to deal with all the political bullshit that comes with being the fulcrum between the two camps.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:36 UTC+1 No.5012255 Report

>>5012239
>One connotation of challenging is difficult, all of the connotations of a word do not need to be taken into a account every time a word is used, different connotations are applied depending on the context. It is clear in my response that the connotation is 'difficult'.
Connotations should be taken seriously. There's no point in using a word that has a connotation, when another word exists that doesn't have the same connotation. We are being very literal here, not poetic, and we are not writing prose, so it matters very much.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:38 UTC+1 No.5012262 Report

>>5012253
I challenged your use of the word, and you still think that mathematics is more challenging because you call it abstract? This very thread demonstrates inductively that philosophy is more challenging, and this very sentence is challenging in and of itself.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:38 UTC+1 No.5012264 Report

>>5012247
you don't get it bro and that is why you are an unhappy loser, but let me ask you this: as a resentful failure maybe one day you will whine and complain enough and realize how wrong you are? or are you one of those marxists who will always think the next issue you whine about will be the one that finally brings you happiness?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:39 UTC+1 No.5012270 Report

>>5012262
playing contra without the cheat code is challenging, doesn't mean it's a good use of time
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:40 UTC+1 No.5012271 Report

>>5012264

I said it is the most challenging task there is. I didn't said I hadn't achieved it.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:41 UTC+1 No.5012274 Report

>>5012271
protip: being resentful of happy people isn't the way to achieve happiness
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:42 UTC+1 No.5012276 Report

>>5012270
Sure, if you want to argue that philosophy is worthless, then go ahead, but I believe my arguments have established well enough that philosophy is the most challenging pursuit. Now, as for difficulty, yes, mathematics is very difficult and I would say it contends for the most difficult intellectual pursuit.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:42 UTC+1 No.5012280 Report

>>5011831
Within undergrad:

Mathematics
Physics
Electrical Engineering
Systems and Controls Engineering
Biophysics
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:44 UTC+1 No.5012288 Report

>>5012280
undergrad doesn't mean shit bro, ive met some math degreed people who just memorized their way through the tests and don't know what the hell any of it means, basically they just majored in math so they wouldn't have to write papers or computer code, lol. math as the lazy kids major? yes.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)21:49 UTC+1 No.5012309 Report

>>5012274

I am not resentful.

I doubt about the solidity of your core values. Bitches, and money pass away, therefore they're ephemeral, and superficial things to found happiness on.

Now, let's talk about resentfulness:

> you are an unhappy loser
> as a resentful failure
> whine and complain enough
> are you one of those marxists
> will always think the next issue you whine about
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:02 UTC+1 No.5012347 Report

>>5012309
unfortunately you are not very smart, and that makes me feel sad but only for a moment.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:06 UTC+1 No.5012363 Report

>>5012223
Yeah, no rich guy who got bitches was ever unhappy...
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:07 UTC+1 No.5012366 Report

>What is the most intellectually challenging pursuit there is?
Trying to find the answer to this question.

I won, faggots. Cya on the plane of enlightenment, I'll be waiting.
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Tallis 06/14/14(Sat)22:08 UTC+1 No.5012371 Report

>>5011831
women (depends on which tho)
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:09 UTC+1 No.5012378 Report

>>5012347
Sure thing. I mean, what kind of retard could find happiness to be the most challenging intellectual task there is?
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Tallis 06/14/14(Sat)22:09 UTC+1 No.5012379 Report

>>5012309
kek u a dumb nigga

my god can dance
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:11 UTC+1 No.5012395 Report

>>5011831

The most intellectually challenging pursuit for any mind is any one which is outside that sphere of activities to which it is most naturally suited.

Adapted from T. S. Eliot's obituary of Maynard Keynes.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:19 UTC+1 No.5012430 Report

>>5012309
being happy is like getting laid, billions of people around the world do it every day yet somehow you fail at it no matter how hard you try. why don't you just do an elliot rodger and leave this world. thanks.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)22:21 UTC+1 No.5012437 Report

>>5012430

I am sorry for you dude. Keep trying, eventually you'll get there.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:15 UTC+1 No.5012680 Report

Objectively, math. Proving propositions is the most difficult intellectual challenge there is.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:33 UTC+1 No.5012747 Report

I'd say physics. Anyone who has ever read up on shit like quantum mechanics should understand this.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:37 UTC+1 No.5012759 Report

>>5012747
"Quantum" literally means "we have no idea how it works". Why else do you think physicists come up with bizarre guesswork and theories about cats being dead and alive at the same time?
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:38 UTC+1 No.5012763 Report

>>5012680
I agree with this. It's not enough to understand a concept, but to then prove it rigorously is an incredible mental workout.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:43 UTC+1 No.5012782 Report

Monastic Zen Budhism
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:45 UTC+1 No.5012790 Report

>>5012680

As a person who studies math, I have to disagree.
While I think mathematical (and logical) thinking is an art unlike any other (pure abstraction!), I think philosophical thinking can be even more arduous due to its lack of clear boundaries and nicely defined objects.
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Anonymous 06/14/14(Sat)23:58 UTC+1 No.5012829 Report

The funny thing about this thread is that the only ones who pick anything other than math are the ones who don't know shit about it. Once you get acquainted with math, you realize without a doubt that it's the highest abstraction out there. So those who say otherwise either write before thinking, don't know how to think, or have a crippling mental illness.
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)00:33 UTC+1 No.5012936 Report

>>5011831
Proving the existence of god.
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)00:39 UTC+1 No.5012953 Report

>>5011831
>intellectually challenging pursuit there is?

being a pick up artist

have to be a master of human psychology and social interaction
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)00:42 UTC+1 No.5012967 Report

>>5012936
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)00:52 UTC+1 No.5012996 Report

>>5011834
I see your point, and raise you with >eternal life
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)00:52 UTC+1 No.5012999 Report

>>5012967
If you aren't automatically fedoratipping everyone on /lit/, you haven't been here long.

This is the home of the fedoras.

Fortunately this meme is nearly dead, find a new way to shitpost anti-intellectualism
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)00:55 UTC+1 No.5013012 Report

>>5011831
The one you find the most difficult. What, did you think there was some kind of tier list?
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Anonymous 06/15/14(Sun)03:01 UTC+1 No.5013490 Report

The most intellectually challenging pursuit is to annoy random anonymous strangers on the internet.
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