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Macross Plus 07/21/14(Mon)22:08 UTC+1 No.11110737 Report

Just finished watching the Macross Plus OVA for the first time and my overall opinion of it is pretty good, but I wasn't all that impressed by this show. The best part of the show is definitely the music and the animation, which are still impressive as hell today. The YF-19 and YF-21 are two awesome designs and any scene that has them flying around and fighting was incredibly enjoyable to watch. It was definitely worth watching just for the god-tier animation but other than that though, I found this series to be pretty average.

The main plot of the two pilots and their rivalry was somewhat interesting, but the pacing of the whole show felt very off. When a show has a plot that's as character-driven as this one, pacing problems can really fuck it up. Certain things like the reveal of the villain felt very abrupt and definitely should have been built up to more. Also I thought the main characters were pretty unlikable, especially Isamu, who was a douche with basically no redeeming qualities.

I'm going to try watching the movie version later tonight and as I understand the creators originally intended for this show to be a movie, so maybe I'll like that one a bit better. What is your opinion on this show /m/?
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Anonymous 07/22/14(Tue)14:00 UTC+1 No.11113967 Report

>>11110737
Music and animation were great
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)05:44 UTC+1 No.11117408 Report

>>11110737
Did you watch the english dub starring Hal? I know I did.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)05:49 UTC+1 No.11117428 Report

>>11110737
You didn't watch the complete version that combines the best scenes of the ova and movie?

No wonder you didn't like it.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)05:56 UTC+1 No.11117445 Report

My only real problem with Plus was that the non-fighter modes of the YF-19 and YF-21 were tragically underused. M+ had some great dogfights, but it's a Macross series; I was hoping for more transformation action.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:19 UTC+1 No.11117501 Report

>>11117408
Not him, but I would've if the last episode didn't have altered music and sfx. I at least watched the first episode and liked him as Isamu.

And man it feels refreshing to see someone refer to him as Hal and not Walter White.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:21 UTC+1 No.11117512 Report

>>11110737

Yeah, I totally agree with you. It looked great, it sounded great, it moved great. But man, Isamu was such a horrible person I couldn't root for him in the least. I don't even remember the girls name, but she wasn't much better. Just, shitty people. Shitty shitty people.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:27 UTC+1 No.11117527 Report

>>11117512
>shitty people
And this somehow makes them uninteresting? Isamu is easily my favorite Macross protagonist. He's a dick, but he's definitely an interesting character.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:29 UTC+1 No.11117530 Report

>>11117527

He wasn't even interesting though. He had little reason to be as big of a dick as he was to most people. He never learned anything, developed, or got any sort of just punishment for being horrible.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:33 UTC+1 No.11117541 Report

>>11117527
I agree. Watching shitty people do shitty things can make for great entertainment, pc related. Just because Isamu's not inherently a good guy doesn't make him an uninteresting character. Macross Plus definitely had some interesting characters.
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Black_Knight 07/23/14(Wed)06:38 UTC+1 No.11117552 Report

>>11117530
Yeah he did, it was his personality to also push for the best and do it his own way. The fact he got results in what he did is what feeds his ego to create that cycle of loveable dickishness.

I got a better question, how does being the original Roughneck of Dalamusia High carrying so much prestige? Isamu mentions it a few times.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:43 UTC+1 No.11117560 Report

>>11117552

The problem for me is his shit wasn't lovable. It put people in danger quite a few times, and he never cared at all.
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Anonymous 07/23/14(Wed)06:48 UTC+1 No.11117575 Report

Oh uh... >>11117512 here

I happen to love Always Sunny. I think the difference to me is that the Gang never gets anywhere for their horribleness, and everybody around them hates them. Kind of makes it all okay to watch them fumble around and be miserable wrecks in human shells.
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