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Women who commute on bikes Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)06:15 UTC+1 No.636956 Report

Hey /n/, I don't have a car, so I get around via bicycle a great deal.
Pretty soon (sometime next month)
I plan to buy a moped.

I'm wondering about other women who commute, on bikes, how do you deal with it?
I never wear make-up, because I end up sweating it off, but I'd like to.
and Helmet hair
and if I just change my clothes when I get there...changing in public bathrooms is tough as fuck

Thoughts?
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)06:22 UTC+1 No.636958 Report

A skull cap underneath my bicycle helmet makes my hair more uniformly flattened and easier to fix. No idea if that would help with women's hair.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)06:27 UTC+1 No.636960 Report

>>636956
please be in california
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)06:40 UTC+1 No.636965 Report

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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)07:00 UTC+1 No.636970 Report

>>636956
That thing in your post op, that used to be a dude, right?
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)07:59 UTC+1 No.636986 Report

>>636956
Post a pic of you. Also, where do you live?

Just don't ride hard on the way there. As much as going slow sucks, if you want to not get sweaty it might be worth it. For helmet hair... bring a comb I guess.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)08:39 UTC+1 No.636996 Report

>>636960
I live south of LA close to the OC

>>636958
hmm
That's not a bad idea, but I doubt that would work with my current hairstyle.
I'll keep that in mind though.

>>636970
I don't know.

>>636965
girls on bikes thread?
If I had more, I'd post them

>>636986
>Post a pic of you.
no
>Also, where do you live?
562 area
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)08:45 UTC+1 No.636997 Report

>>636956
>Helmet hair

If you shampoo regularly and you aren't asian, your hair should be soft enough to reshape with a simple shake after helmet removal.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)10:48 UTC+1 No.637017 Report

>>636996
>make up
can't help much with that one

>hair
can't help with that one either

>clothing
The clothing change though, I bring an extra tshirt that I change to when I get there. I also change my shoes since I commute on clipless, so I have a pair of regular shoes under my desk.

It happens to me sometimes that when I commute fast, my underwear gets a sweaty on the part that touches my inner leg. I know this can be too much info, but hear me out, wet underwear (no pun intended) ain't comfortable. What I do is that I press toilet paper at the part that is humid for a few times, and this helps relieve the issue. I might start bringing underwear with me as well, but stripping down on a toilet isn't something I look forward to as well. Hopefully you don't have to deal with this.

Congrats on the initiative.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)10:53 UTC+1 No.637020 Report

>>637017
Pls continue
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)12:29 UTC+1 No.637037 Report

Post tits.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)12:48 UTC+1 No.637040 Report

>>637037
>>>/b/
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)13:15 UTC+1 No.637047 Report

>>637017
Also gull wing pads but more expensive than toilet paper or tissues.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)13:23 UTC+1 No.637051 Report

>>637017
>What I do is that I press toilet paper at the part that is humid for a few times, and this helps relieve the issue

Might wanna go for a less decomposable paper product than toilet paper

perhaps paper towels or tissues

or you could wear diapers, they also increase seat comfort with the padding i'd assume
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)15:03 UTC+1 No.637080 Report

>>637040
Fuck off, tumblr.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)15:19 UTC+1 No.637085 Report

Not a chick, but my work has showers, so for my morning commute I just arrive a little early and shower with a change of clothes.

As for traveling around, who cares, unless you're going to some spiffy event then just relax and don't bother.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)18:00 UTC+1 No.637128 Report

at least there's no piss on the floor of the women's bathroom
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)20:20 UTC+1 No.637159 Report

>>637128
Ex Janitor Here.
Gents: Piss on floor near urinals. Cigarette ends in urinal trough occasinally
Ladies: Piss on floor everywhere
tampons and towels shoved into everything except the sanitary bins.
Blood on walls and sinks
Toilet paper everywhere as they cover the seat then never flush it.
Diapers blocking toilets erry day
Toilet paper thrown on floor
Shit literally filled up inside soap dispensers.
Oh and a dead baby which finally made me quit.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)20:57 UTC+1 No.637168 Report

>>637159
Can confirm. Gents toilets are a fucking breeze compared to ladies.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)22:03 UTC+1 No.637211 Report

>>637159
>Shit literally filled up inside soap dispensers.

wtfamireading
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)22:59 UTC+1 No.637233 Report

>>637211
someone literally shat in their hand. opened up a soap dispenser filled it with shit. and wiped shit on the pump thingie so everyone gets shitt everywhere.
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)23:10 UTC+1 No.637240 Report

>>637159
>dead baby

Fuck. The worst I've seen in Gents was a 10 inch shit log in the urinal.
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madisonbro 03/16/14(Sun)23:25 UTC+1 No.637246 Report

mopeds suck. they basically say "i'm too lazy to ride a bike, and too scared to ride a motorcycle"
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)23:30 UTC+1 No.637247 Report

>>637246
Or I don't want to have to get a license and pay insurances for a full moto
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)23:40 UTC+1 No.637252 Report

>>636956
What bike is that?
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Anonymous 03/16/14(Sun)23:55 UTC+1 No.637262 Report

>>636956
What's the speed limit for moped/scooter in state you live in?
If it's 30mph max, you don't need to worry about changing clothes.
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Anonymous 03/17/14(Mon)01:02 UTC+1 No.637313 Report

>>637252
That would be a Puch Maxi with an a kitted e50 engine, I would imagine this has a top speed of around ~55 mph.

Also I don't know who this is but they're a member of the Puddle Cutters moped gang in the Pacific North West
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Anonymous 03/17/14(Mon)01:02 UTC+1 No.637314 Report

>>637246
They say "I want to keep my money for better things and I commute only because I need it"
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Anonymous 03/17/14(Mon)15:09 UTC+1 No.637598 Report

>>636958
What's wrong with a T-rex hairstyle?
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Anonymous 03/18/14(Tue)00:57 UTC+1 No.637790 Report

>>637262
I live in CA,
>Rules and Requirements

>Motorcycle Helmet
>Headlight
>Taillight
>Brake light
>Horn
>Side and rear reflectors
>"Adequate" muffler, not exceeding 95 Decibels (applies to all road vehicles under 6,000lbs)
>Working brakes (rear only is technically legal, no your shoes don't count)
>Minimum of one side mirror (either side is legal, though left side is most common)
>Note - Turn signals are not required under the law.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg230.pdf
>Maximum speed of 30 miles per hour on ground level

My intention is to tune it up so I can go up o 50mph.
I wont be able to go that fast on a regular basis though, but that's all right.


>>637246
I'm cheap(student here) and don't want to pay for car insurance.
Also, I've been biking since I was 16; I'm 22 now.
I think mopeds look cool/cute, moreso than a motorcycle....really I should just buy a car.


>>637247
this
>>637128
men and women are equally disgusting, but ladies bathrooms tend to be cleaned more often.
Sometimes

>>637085
>As for traveling around, who cares, unless you're going to some spiffy event then just relax and don't bother.
You have a point
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madisonbro 03/18/14(Tue)03:31 UTC+1 No.637843 Report

>>637790
stick to cycling. save your cash for booze and drugs. or get a motorcycle.

also if you get caught doing 50 on a moped i guarantee they'll repo it.
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Anonymous 03/18/14(Tue)03:55 UTC+1 No.637850 Report

>>636965
>26er

Absolutely disgusting.
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Anonymous 03/18/14(Tue)05:16 UTC+1 No.637874 Report

>>637843
Still faster(even at 30mph) than a bicycle and cheaper than a motorcycle. It's great around town.
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Anonymous 03/18/14(Tue)05:26 UTC+1 No.637876 Report

>>637790
>My intention is to tune it up so I can go up o 50mph

I've hit 51mph on my 2001 tomos targa with a circuit pipe and a #60 jet. It also helps that I have a 4 mile dead flat straight on my way home and i'm over 5k feet above sea level. I usually drive around at 40-42mph and no one cares.
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Anonymous 03/19/14(Wed)12:47 UTC+1 No.638310 Report

>>637876
>I usually drive around at 40-42mph and no one cares.
Where do you live?
>>637843
interesting advice.
I'd consider getting a motorcycle, but eh, if I'm gonna spend that much, I may as well get a car.

>>637874
That, and the mpg is fucking unbeatable.
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Anonymous 03/19/14(Wed)13:10 UTC+1 No.638313 Report

Just get the moped.

... If you're looking for another practical way to get around. It's always warm in CA right? You can use this thing year-round. You can always still ride your bike.

Just get something practical like a honda metro. Don't go for the cute vintage italian scooter that will break down on you constantly.

If it's practical and not a fashion accessory, go for it. Like some other anon said, you will need an M1 licence. So you might as well take a motorcycle/moped riding and safety class. /n/ can't afford to lose any females.
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Anonymous 03/19/14(Wed)19:02 UTC+1 No.638387 Report

>>638313
>Just get something practical like a honda metro. Don't go for the cute vintage italian scooter that will break down on you constantly.
I'm planning on gettng a Puch maxipad.

But, I'm wondering what spured your post.
Are you responding in reference to >>638310
>I'd consider getting a motorcycle
?
Or are you just speaking generally?
If it wasn't clear, I AM getting a moped, I just don't know when EXACTLY
I'll probably do it after I'm done with all my tax shit next month
>/n/ can't afford to lose any females.
I agree

Thanks for the other advice, I'll get on the M1 license thing ASAP
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Anonymous 03/19/14(Wed)20:18 UTC+1 No.638404 Report

>>637850
go shill somewhere else
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)05:11 UTC+1 No.638592 Report

>>638310
>Where do you live?
Notcalifornia

>That, and the mpg is fucking unbeatable.
150mpg currently. It costs about $.025/mile in fuel, compared to my car's $.12/mile fuel cost. I'm pretty sure that is going to drop though, I recently bought a new carb and am waiting for some larger jets. Even if it drops down to 100mpg, it will still be awesome.
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Awesome Funposter 03/20/14(Thu)05:15 UTC+1 No.638596 Report

The fact that you have to find random NOS rings, pistons and cylinders and pay for dirty expensive 2-stroke oil makes the economy of these things much less than they appear. Still good, but not that good.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)05:23 UTC+1 No.638599 Report

>>638596
they haven't changed the engines in 40 years so it's easier to get parts for it than my car. The 2-stoke oil is only expensive if you buy it from a retail store (like home depot).

basically it costs about $.30/gallon more for being 2-stroke if you don't buy the oil locally. 4-stroke doesn't have the power of 2-stroke in the same displacement(which is where you are limited) and 4-stroke engines don't like WOT all day. However, 4-stroke has some nice low end.
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Awesome Funposter 03/20/14(Thu)06:08 UTC+1 No.638621 Report

>>638599
4 strokes won't need replacement rings nearly as quickly as a poorly made 2 stroke. With 4 strokes you often just bin the engine after it has that many miles. Mopeds are also limited in the horsepower department because most laws give both a displacement and power limit. Also 2-stroke is pretty nasty.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)06:19 UTC+1 No.638628 Report

>>638621
Ring replacement is based on how rich/lean the engine runs. They run lean stock to keep the power down which has a side affect of burning out the rings earlier. With an upjet, which is easy for anyone to do and the jets are like $0.50, the rings last much longer. Replacing the rings themselves involves removing 8 bolts. Replacing the cylinder is relatively cheap as well. $30 for the head, $40 for the piston and $60 for the cylinder.

4-strokes have a lot of moving parts including valves, springs, cams, chains/belts/gears for the cams. A 2-stroke has the piston, the crank and the con-rod, which a 4-stroke also has.

>Mopeds are also limited in the horsepower department because most laws give both a displacement and power limit
no one has a dyno for 2hp, and no one has a portable one. Basically if you don't ride like a cunt, the cops don't give a shit.

>Also 2-stroke is pretty nasty
A poorly tuned(running rich) 2-stroke is nasty, mine doesn't produce any smoke, and if it weren't for the sound you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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Awesome Funposter 03/20/14(Thu)07:30 UTC+1 No.638656 Report

>>638628
>Replacing the cylinder is relatively cheap as well. $30 for the head, $40 for the piston and $60 for the cylinder.
Maybe for some mopeds, that doesn't mean it is easy to source the parts for all of them.

>4-strokes have a lot of moving parts including valves, springs, cams, chains/belts/gears for the cams. A 2-stroke has the piston, the crank and the con-rod, which a 4-stroke also has.
And amazingly because a 4-stroke is able to lubricate those parts, it is more reliable and longer wearing than a 2-stroke.

>no one has a dyno for 2hp, and no one has a portable one. Basically if you don't ride like a cunt, the cops don't give a shit.
They don't carry a measuring cup filled with 50cc of liquid and crack open your cylinder either to see if it is really 50cc.

>A poorly tuned(running rich) 2-stroke is nasty, mine doesn't produce any smoke, and if it weren't for the sound you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
That's a lie.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)07:59 UTC+1 No.638665 Report

>>638656
>Maybe for some mopeds, that doesn't mean it is easy to source the parts for all of them.

treatland or 1977mopeds has everything for them

>And amazingly because a 4-stroke is able to lubricate those parts, it is more reliable and longer wearing than a 2-stroke.
2-stokes lubricate their parts just fine. The biggest issue is at constant high rpm, the fewer moving parts, the better.

>They don't carry a measuring cup filled with 50cc of liquid and crack open your cylinder either to see if it is really 50cc.
this is why 70cc kits are popular, the outside is the same, the piston is just 6mm larger in diameter, which is a pain to measure anyways.

>>A poorly tuned(running rich) 2-stroke is nasty, mine doesn't produce any smoke, and if it weren't for the sound you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
>That's a lie.

basically it goes like this, running lean loses you power, the richer you run gets you more power, up to a point, then power drops off again and you start to get more smoke. Smoke is unburned fuel/oil that is taking up space in the cylinder that could be used for more power.

90% of the people who tune mopeds go very conservative on the mixture(rich) so they won't melt/burn the rings. This is why you have people running a 74 or 76 jet on a tomos/puch when a 60 or 62 will work just fine and give you more power. It actually angers me a bit when people put in the largest jet that can fit before it starts 4-stroking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMYxXl9E2mI
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Awesome Funposter 03/20/14(Thu)08:04 UTC+1 No.638671 Report

>>638665
>2-stokes lubricate their parts just fine.
No they don't. Particularly the cylinder.

It is a lie because the oil is mixed in with the gas. 2 stroke oil burns. You also don't get full combustion in a 2 stroke.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)08:16 UTC+1 No.638678 Report

>>638671
If they didn't lubricate they cylinder then what would even be the point of putting oil in the fuel?

ok, here is how it works, the air/fuel mix is drawn into the lower portion of the cylinder below the piston, when the piston moves up the oil/fuel mix sticks to the cylinder wall, when the piston comes down it is lubed by the oil on the cylinder walls and the rest of the air/fuel mix is pushed into the upper part of the cylinder. Cars used to be lubed similarly by the crank splashing oil onto the cylinders.

>You also don't get full combustion in a 2 stroke.
both the fuel and oil burn(oil is petroleum based, just like gasoline/diesel/kerosene). Running a 2-stroke or a 4-stroke rich will result in incomplete combustion, and running lean in either will result in high temperatures and a loss in power.
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Awesome Funposter 03/20/14(Thu)08:24 UTC+1 No.638683 Report

>>638678
>If they didn't lubricate they cylinder then what would even be the point of putting oil in the fuel?
Because it lubricates it less than fine, at least on these super simple 2 strokes.

>Cars used to be lubed similarly by the crank splashing oil onto the cylinders.
Which works better since the 100% undiluted oil that isn't just 2-5% is being splashed and retained on and by the rings which is the part that needs lubrication. It also means much less oil gets burned, even though the wear parts are better lubricated because the oil is only where it needs to be and is at full strength.

>both the fuel and oil burn(oil is petroleum based, just like gasoline/diesel/kerosene). Running a 2-stroke or a 4-stroke rich will result in incomplete combustion, and running lean in either will result in high temperatures and a loss in power.
Just because it is possible to horribly tune a 4 stroke so that it runs dirty doesn't mean that your simple ported 2 stroke isn't an inherently dirty design.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)08:43 UTC+1 No.638690 Report

>>638683
>Because it lubricates it less than fine, at least on these super simple 2 strokes
You can put thousands and thousands of miles on 2-stroke mopeds at 8 thousand rpm without getting any real wear, just like their cheap 4-stroke counterparts. Neither will last as long as a car or a real motorcycle because of the high rpms they endure.

>Which works better since the 100% undiluted oil that isn't just 2-5% is being splashed and retained on and by the rings which is the part that needs lubrication. It also means much less oil gets burned, even though the wear parts are better lubricated because the oil is only where it needs to be and is at full strength.
it doesn't work better at idle because very little(if any) oil would be deposited onto the cylinders, and at high rpm it creates enormous drag.

>Just because it is possible to horribly tune a 4 stroke so that it runs dirty doesn't mean that your simple ported 2 stroke isn't an inherently dirty design.
Just because it's a 2-stroke doesn't make it automatically dirtier than any 4-stroke. Until recently in america you could buy a 2-stroke street bike from aprilia that passed emissions. You can make a 2-stroke pass emissions, but aprilia decided not to improve it because they didn't sell enough to justify the cost.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)09:04 UTC+1 No.638693 Report

>>638690
last thing before I go to bed

Reasons why I chose a 2-stroke
-more power
-easier to get parts/fewer parts to replace
-more potential
-cheap
downsides of the 2-stroke
-have to pre-mix(already do that for my dirtbikes)
-a little dirtier than 4-strokes
-louder(like the sound more though)

upsides of 4-strokes
-quieter
-don't have to pre-mix
-cleaner
downsides
-more parts/harder to find unless you buy a honda which costs more initially
-slower
-less potential
-harder to fix when something goes wrong
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Awesome Funposter 03/20/14(Thu)09:25 UTC+1 No.638698 Report

>>638690
>You can put thousands and thousands of miles on 2-stroke mopeds at 8 thousand rpm without getting any real wear
Thousands of miles is not a lot. It isn't even a lot for a bicycle. Mine gets about 5,000 a year.

>Neither will last as long as a car or a real motorcycle because of the high rpms they endure.
They don't endure significantly higher RPMs than any sports tuned engine. 8,000 isn't high.

>it doesn't work better at idle because very little(if any) oil would be deposited onto the cylinders, and at high rpm it creates enormous drag.
You are now talking out of your ass.

>Just because it's a 2-stroke doesn't make it automatically dirtier than any 4-stroke. Until recently in america you could buy a 2-stroke street bike from aprilia that passed emissions. You can make a 2-stroke pass emissions, but aprilia decided not to improve it because they didn't sell enough to justify the cost.
And you complete ignored what I said. I said your simple ported 2 stroke engine. The aprilia engine has nothing to do you with yours. It has valves and is considerably more complex than your ported 2 stroke.

Clearly you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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Anonymous 03/20/14(Thu)12:08 UTC+1 No.638766 Report

>Stop riding what I don't ride
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)03:20 UTC+1 No.639001 Report

>>638698
>>638693
>>638690
>>638683
>>638678
>>638671
>>638665
>>638656
>>638628
>>638621
>>638599
>>638596
You have both confused the fuck the out of me.

Answer these in laymans terms
>what's the difference between a 2stroke and a 4stroke
>Can I put a 4stroke on my moped
>How much will it cost
>what's the difference in mpg
>what's the top speed of each
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)04:58 UTC+1 No.639055 Report

>>639001
>what's the difference between a 2stroke and a 4stroke

2-stroke has a power stroke every revolution, 4-stroke has a power stroke every other revolution.
>Can I put a 4stroke on my moped
you would have to change the engine and transmission and make up your own mounts
>How much will it cost
the cost of a 4-stroke engine and trans + fabbing and material costs
>what's the difference in mpg
not much, the real differences are in weight and power. 2-strokes are lighter and more powerful for their displacement because they have a power cycle twice as often and they have fewer parts.
>what's the top speed of each
if you don't have a lot of cash, 2-stroke is much, much faster for the dollar. unlimited cash? probably 2-stroke as well. For dirbikes the regulations work like this example. A class is limited to 250cc 2-stokes or a 500cc 4-strokes. 4-strokes need twice the displacement to generate the same amount of power. For 50cc mopeds, the 2-stroke ones are HEAVILY restricted from the factory to keep them under 30mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuCUmQ9FxMU
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Awesome Funposter 03/21/14(Fri)05:05 UTC+1 No.639058 Report

>>639001
Simple ported 2 strokes are nasty and wear worse, the extra parts on a 4 stroke means there aren't parts pulling double duty so everything works as it should.

2 strokes are like the fixies of internal combustion engines.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)05:07 UTC+1 No.639059 Report

>>638698
>Thousands of miles is not a lot. It isn't even a lot for a bicycle. Mine gets about 5,000 a year.

I put 1,300 miles on my moped in 3 months because I live about 7 miles outside town. Lets say the rings die, it costs a whole $15 for a new set and about 20min.

>They don't endure significantly higher RPMs than any sports tuned engine. 8,000 isn't high.
sports cars do not hold 8krpm for their entire lives, mopeds do.

>You are now talking out of your ass.
that was the whole reason we got rid of splash oiling, because it sucked at idle and stole power at high rpm.

>And you complete ignored what I said. I said your simple ported 2 stroke engine. The aprilia engine has nothing to do you with yours. It has valves and is considerably more complex than your ported 2 stroke.
yes, and 4-stroke engines in cars and on real motorcycles are much more complex than 4-strokes found on mopeds. Moped engines, no matter the make or stroke are very cheap and simple, that's the point. You can make quality 2 and 4 stroke engines, but for cheap mopeds simple is better.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)05:10 UTC+1 No.639061 Report

>>639058
>2 strokes are like the fixies of internal combustion engines.
if fixies were faster than any other bike

if they made a rotary 50cc moped, it would be the best, because rotary engines have very good power/displacement, have no valves and make decent 4-stroke engines.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)06:10 UTC+1 No.639073 Report

>>639059
>not honing cylinder when replacing rings
Wow mopedfags really are like fixiefags

>sports cars do not hold 8krpm for their entire lives, mopeds do.
>yes, and 4-stroke engines in cars and on real motorcycles are much more complex than 4-strokes found on mopeds. Moped engines, no matter the make or stroke are very cheap and simple, that's the point. You can make quality 2 and 4 stroke engines, but for cheap mopeds simple is better.
The 50cc honda cub engine with 4.8bhp invalidates everything you have said. Mopeds were pretty much dying by the time Japanese go into auto though.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)06:42 UTC+1 No.639078 Report

>>639073
>The 50cc honda cub engine with 4.8bhp invalidates everything you have said. Mopeds were pretty much dying by the time Japanese go into auto though.
how does it invalidate what I said? Stock 50cc Super Cubs technically have to be registered like motorcycles as they generate too much power to be a moped. They also cost twice as much, around $2,400 + shipping. The brilliance of the 2-stroke mopeds is that you can jump them up from 2hp with just an exhaust and a new jet. Honda stopped selling the super cub in america in the 80's because they had to be registered and insured so it goes against the niche of the moped. Tomos however, still sells new bikes in america.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)06:48 UTC+1 No.639081 Report

>>639055
....It's hard for me to see any advantages to 4 stokres.

Which is quieter?

Also, how can one make a two-stroke quieter?
I'd like a moped to run close to silently.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)06:52 UTC+1 No.639082 Report

>>639081
4-stroke is quieter.

It's hard to make a 2-stroke quiet because the expansion chamber needed for performance on the exhaust is an amplifier by design.

If you want a silent moped, electric is an alternative.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)06:59 UTC+1 No.639084 Report

>>639078
Because you were talking about the supposed advantages of 2 stroke engines, not the advantages of mopeds
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:05 UTC+1 No.639086 Report

>>639084
2-strokes will make more power per displacement that is why motorcycle/dirtbike classes give 4-stroke bikes twice the allowed displacement as 2-strokes to make it fair. It's also why 2-strokes hold the world record top speed for 50cc. 2-strokes have one power stroke per revolution, 4-strokes have one power stroke every other revolution. The most powerful piston engines in the world are 2-stroke.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:09 UTC+1 No.639087 Report

>>639086
And those 2 strokes are pretty much as complicated as their 4 stroke counterparts if not moreso.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:14 UTC+1 No.639090 Report

>>639087
>And those 2 strokes are pretty much as complicated as their 4 stroke counterparts if not moreso.
and? The reason 2-strokes are still around is because they give great horsepower for their weight/displacement. The honda supercub was never meant to meet moped restrictions, hence why it makes more than 2hp. 2-stroke 50cc mopeds have to be intentionally restricted down to 2hp(smaller carb with small jets, exhaust with no expansion chamber, ported for lower rpm) remove those restrictions and it will make more power than the supercub.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:18 UTC+1 No.639092 Report

>>639087
also, 2-stroke dirtbikes are the same, simple ported design as mopeds.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:20 UTC+1 No.639094 Report

>>639090
The hp version was given to counter your blatantly false claim that 4 strokes can't stay at 8,000 since that particular version can do that and then some
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:29 UTC+1 No.639095 Report

>>639094
i'm not saying that it cant, hell in the 90's honda made a 250cc 4-cyl that revved to 19k rpm for homologation. The problems that come from that are valvespring wear, camshaft wear, timing chain/belt wear and eventually valve float. You can make these parts last longer, but it costs a lot more money. If you want something cheap that will hold WOT all day, 2-strokes are much better at it.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:29 UTC+1 No.639096 Report

Every 2 stroke moped I have ever seen has gross exhaust, however pretty much every moped is 2 stroke because 2 strokes were legal back then and much cheaper to make for European medium small industry.

Weight and power? Who gives a shit, you can't go above 30mph on them and the horsepower is dictated by law, and they all air cooled and come with shitty belt auto transmissions. Weight? The things are built like steel tanks and even come with steel cottered cranks.

Mopeds are low performance machines, and anyone who hops them up is a fool and just trying to look for ways to circumvent the law by trying to go through loopholes that don't exists like tax dodgers. The only reason that scene exists is because there is a loophole for mopeds and some kiddy faggots want to take advantage of it even when they aren't entitled to it.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:32 UTC+1 No.639097 Report

>>639096
I ride mine because it's cheaper. The only thing cheaper would be riding a bicycle, but i'm not about to ride a bike 10 miles in 115 degree weather before and after an 8 hour shift.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:33 UTC+1 No.639098 Report

>>639096
Here's an example of the kind of people moped tuners are.

It is illegal to murder people. But there's a loophole that says you can murder someone in self defense. Moped tuners are like people that find kids armed with skittles and pick fights with them so they can use excessive force and kill someone even if there was no real threat to them because there was a loopholes for self defense they want to take advantage of.

tldr moped tuners are murders
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:35 UTC+1 No.639099 Report

>>639098
so going 1mph over the speed limit makes you a murderer, got it.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:35 UTC+1 No.639100 Report

>>639097
Then you wouldn't tune it up. Tuning it up isn't cheaper, and arguably it removes you legal right to operate it without registration and insurance. You're just trying to avoid the lawman and get away with as much as you can.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:37 UTC+1 No.639102 Report

>>639099
So you waste your time tuning up your moped so you can go 1mph faster than prescribed by law. This is the mentality of a moped tuner. They constantly try to justify their actions as harmless. Pay your fucking fair share of insurance and registration.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:37 UTC+1 No.639103 Report

>>639100
Tuning reduces my commute time and it makes it more fun to work on something you own, and the police don't care at all.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:40 UTC+1 No.639104 Report

>>639102
wastes my time by saving me time in the long run. You are just angry and need a good hobby.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:43 UTC+1 No.639108 Report

>>639104
>>639103
You are only entitled to minimum regulation because of the limitations imposed by law on your machine. By breaking those laws you lose your entitlement to cheap vehicle operation, and should be paying your fair share of cager taxes. The moped tuner is even worse than the cager.

The cager is selfish and feels entitled because they pay registration and taxes. The moped tuner is selfish and feels entitled because they are breaking the law in undetectable and unenforceable ways and feel they can break the law and be protected by the law at their own convenience.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:51 UTC+1 No.639113 Report

>>639108
my fair share of cager taxes is what I pay at the pump. Gasoline is taxed to maintain the road system. Registration is to track and make it obvious when vehicles are stolen. Mopeds are exempt from this as they are generally too cheap to bother with. Basically if someone steals my moped I'm in the same situation as if my bicycle was stolen.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)07:55 UTC+1 No.639114 Report

>>639113
Your liability insurance requirement should be the same as any low powered scooter, because that is essentially what you are riding, and you should be taxed for your dirty dirty exhaust that produces more pollution and carcinogens than a car with 20 times the displacement.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)08:01 UTC+1 No.639116 Report

>>639114
Actually it may be cheaper if I put my moped on my insurance as having two vehicles is generally cheaper than only having one.
The insurance on a moped is like $40/year by itself because you aren't going to fuck up anything if you do hit it.
You should be charged with producing CO2 and Methane.
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Anonymous 03/21/14(Fri)08:08 UTC+1 No.639117 Report

>>639116
On a normal moped. Not on your tuned up to the same hp and acceleration as a scooter moped.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)00:35 UTC+1 No.639414 Report

OP here
Holy shit, the debate that erupted is entertaining and educational.

I don't know what to make of it really, I planned on purchasing a Puch Maxipad, I don't have a particular year in mind, Burr my ideal is a late 70s or 80s model.
I had little intention of changing the engine (not immediately anyway) but I DO plan on removing the speed restrictions set on it via the factory.

However>>639082
Is intriguing to me, because I would like the thing to run as quiet as possible, and If my understanding is correct a simple silencer isn't going to do much.

Thoughts?

Changing the engine from two-stroke to four-stroke looks like it'll be over my head.....bicycle maintenance isn't easy for me as is...
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)00:37 UTC+1 No.639417 Report

>>639414
>wants to take advantage of the law while breaking the law
>hypocrite
>probably the kind of woman that would demand child support from a man who isnt the babys father
As expected of a woman.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)00:40 UTC+1 No.639418 Report

>>639417
At least she isn't a soccer mom driving a SUV and mowing down cyclists.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)00:51 UTC+1 No.639424 Report

>>639418
Soccer moms at least get married to the guy who is the father of their baby.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)06:40 UTC+1 No.639541 Report

>>639414
just buy a 4-stroke, it's not as fast, but it's easier to fuel than some 2-strokes. Some 2-strokes have an oil injection system so you fill a tank with 2-stroke oil and it will mix it for you.

If you really want to know how loud a 2-stroke is, go find someone who is selling one and take it for a ride.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)06:51 UTC+1 No.639544 Report

>>639541
>take someone for a ride with no intent to pay
Sounds like a woman
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)07:32 UTC+1 No.639555 Report

>>639544
buy it if you like it, don't buy it if you don't. It's called test riding/driving. I didn't know If I would comfortably fit in my current car(miata), so I took it for a test drive.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)20:55 UTC+1 No.639772 Report

>>636956
How far are you commuting?
I use dermablend as a foundation and that's the only makeup I wear on a regular day. I apply before I ride and it doesn't run at all, though I do bring some with me to touch up at my destination if necessary.

I just change clothes when I get to my commuter train.
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Anonymous 03/22/14(Sat)23:15 UTC+1 No.639830 Report

>>639414
Puch Maxis are great beginner mopeds, easy to get more speed out of them and the e50 engine is a fucking breeze to work on.

However if you can get one the Honda Hobbit(PA50-2) Is probably my favorite moped. Dual Variated, simple design, and just by slapping on a Proma Pipe(https://www.treatland.tv/honda-hobbit-proma-performance-pipe-p/honda-proma-pipe-hobbit-pa50.htm) you can get it up to aroun38mph and eat hills. Throw on a 70cc DR kit and mod the front variator and you can get up to 50mph no problem.

Picture is of a Hobbit with some light performance upgrade
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)06:56 UTC+1 No.640725 Report

>>639417
>>639424
I get the feeling you don't like women....I know what the law says
>https://www.dmv.ca.gov/motorcycles/motorcycles.htm
>A "motorized bicycle" or "moped" is:

>A two or three-wheeled device, capable of no more than 30 mph on level ground, and equipped with:
> – Fully operative pedals for human propulsion.
> – A motor producing less than two gross brake horsepower and an automatic transmission.
> – An electric motor, with or without pedals for human propulsion. (CVC §406(a))

>Driver must have a motorcycle license (M1 or M2).

> A “motorized bicycle” is also defined as a vehicle with pedals and an electric motor (not more than 1,000 watts) which cannot be driven at speeds of more than 20 mph on level ground even if assisted by human power. (CVC §406(b)).

>If you operate a motorized bicycle which meets the definition of CVC §406(b), you:

> – Must be 16 years of age or older.
> – Must wear a properly fitted and fastened bicycle helmet.
> – Are exempt from the motor vehicle financial responsibility, driver license, and moped plate requirements (CVC §12804.9).

> A motorized bicycle is issued special license plates and identification cards, which requires a one-time $18 fee. No renewal is required.

So, if i go over 30, that's when it becomes an issue.
I want the *option* to do 40, 45.
I don't plan to regular to exceed 25(on my bike I'm generally going inbetween 10 and 20 mph).
But I'd like to get myself out of tricky situations if the need for speed arises; I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Natively,
http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Puch_speed/setup_table
I can use the stock cylinder to possible top out at 38 MPH, so and I honestly don't plan to do alot of upgrades until I've had it for a few months.

Besides, have you ever driven in So. Cal? it's fucking nuts.
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)07:02 UTC+1 No.640733 Report

>>640725
>So, if i go over 30, that's when it becomes an issue.
>I want the *option* to do 40, 45.
> capable of no more than 30 mph on level ground
Question, are you mentally retarded or just a woman?
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)07:17 UTC+1 No.640737 Report

>>639544
Most sellers include an offer to see the moped or go for a ride before you buy it.

>>639772
>91 posts in before another woman appears
geez
>How far are you commuting?
Rarely more than 15 miles. Like I said I live in So. Call, just south of LA....generally If I need to go 15+ miles, I'll ride to a bus/train and go the rest of the distance but since I highly doubt I'll be able to take the moped on a train or bus, I'm probably gonna start riding the moped everywhere....still, It's rare that I have to travel more than 20, 25 miles anyway.
But on a regular daily basis, my travels are less than 15 miles (one way)
tl;dr- 15 miles

>I use dermablend as a foundation and that's the only makeup I wear on a regular day. I apply before I ride and it doesn't run at all, though I do bring some with me to touch up at my destination if necessary.
Hmm.
What made you choose that brand?
Also, what kind of helmet do you use, if any?
If dermablend doesn't run, I can live with that, but sometimes I want to wear eye makeup....I'm wondering if that's just gonna have to be the thing I do in the bathroom when I get where I'm going.

>I just change clothes when I get to my commuter train.
What do you wear while cycling?

>>639830
Hmm. Moped Army had me really set on a Puch, but the hobbit seems pretty cool as well.
They seem like they're harder to find though.
What do you ride?
>>640733
I'm guessing someone on a moped hit you once?
is that what it is?
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)07:18 UTC+1 No.640739 Report

>>640737
No, I'm serious. Do you understand what the law says and what the word "capable" means? Are you mentally challenged? Is it because you are a woman?
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)14:24 UTC+1 No.640877 Report

>>640737
I'm mixed white/hispanic, and dermablend makes a pale ghastly vampiric white with yellow behind it that perfectly matches my skin, I don't even have to cover my whole face because it blends seamlessly. Plus it's just really nice. Can be a bit oily if you don't apply it well.

I bicycle in some tshirt and running shorts since I haven't bought and probably don't really need a chamois. I just throw a skirt or short and a fresh shirt in my bag.
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)15:28 UTC+1 No.640898 Report

>>640737
I Have a few Moped, 2 PA50s, a Minarelli V1 General, a Moby 50V, and a Tomos A35. Most them have 70cc kits and expansion pipes, and all top out around 45+

The Puch Maxi is a great moped pretty much because the availability of aftermarket parts and its so simple to work on, I can rebuild an e50 in under an hour. And since you live in LA I doubt hills are that much of a problem so a Variated engine won't really help.

In consideration of the laws its no big deal, Any cop who pulls you over won't even care about displacement, most of them will just laugh at you for riding a moped and let you go. Plus actually going 30mph in traffic is a fucking deathwish.

At this point just get whatever moped you like the most and hang out with your local branch of the MopedArmy they'll help you out. There's an all female gang called the Gaskettes, they could help you out with your commuting issues too.
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)17:17 UTC+1 No.640920 Report

>>639424
>more bothered by someone's relationship choices than the possibility of vehicular homicide.
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)18:19 UTC+1 No.640938 Report

Post more moped motorbikes please, I want to get one
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)18:33 UTC+1 No.640945 Report

Café racers... for the mature hipster
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)18:55 UTC+1 No.640955 Report

>>636956

If you're commuting on moped I see no reason why there would be any urgent need for a shower once you get to work.

Just wear a full fucking helmet, don't be one of those morons losing their lower jaw just because they want to look pretty while riding about.
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)19:21 UTC+1 No.640963 Report

>>640945
I-I k-kinda like it
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Anonymous 03/24/14(Mon)23:12 UTC+1 No.641029 Report

>>640938
Amazing Hobbit build by a MopedArmy member, It was actually raffled away and is somewhere in Hawaii now.

I think the greatest appeal about mopeds is how easy they are to customize.
http://garage.1977mopeds.com/build/2740
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>>641029
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>>636956
>>636996
>>639830
>>640725
>>640737
>>640743
how much does a bike that looks like this go for, and how fast do they go?

otherwise im thinking of spending 1000-1500$ on a 400cc dirtbike and making it street legal...
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>>641277
http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/First_moped
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>>640963
Of course you do, it looks badass!
Social stigmas can be so annoying sometimes eh?
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>>640877
>I don't even have to cover my whole face because it blends seamlessly
wow, that's cool!

I'm in the tan tier, just looking quickly, I'm reddish tan I believe.

I don't wear skirts often, but I'll keep that in mind.
i wonder if biking in leggings and then putting pants on on top of my leggins would be weird?
Riding in a chamois would be fine, but I think it'd be a pain to remove it constantly.
I've never used one, so I dont know really.

>>640898
>Plus actually going 30mph in traffic is a fucking deathwish.
yeah, this is what scares me.
>There's an all female gang called the Gaskettes
Thanks for the heads up!!

Which bike do you ride the most/why?
I mean, does each bike have a different purpose, or is it more of a collection sort of thing?
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Wish these were readily available in my country.. There's only a few I can find on the classifieds, only one of them fully restored ($800). I don't think parts are easy to come by here.. Guess I just have to wait till I move away again.
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>>641338
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>>641356
South Africa.. I looked at them some more, they are too dangerous to ride here. Better off with >250cc's if I want to outrun taxis and criminals.
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>>641306
Yeah the Gaskettes are a cool bunch, they're having a mini rally on April 4th. I would suggest going to meet them in person, I'm sure they could help you find a cheap moped and get some advice.

And I mostly just like working on mopeds, I've never paid more then 200$ for a moped so I ended up with a lot more then I wanted. For my daily driver its usually my 70cc Hobbit.

And damn this turned into a pic dump thread, Someone should post some cool Derbis.
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>>642669
>>/b/ is that way
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Anonymous 03/29/14(Sat)08:58 UTC+1 No.643295 Report

>>641548
Hmm, April 4th...I don't think I can make that, but thanks for the heads up
How did you find out about that?
The Gaskettes website hasn't been updated in months when I checked it a few days ago

What moped gang/crew are you a member of?
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Anonymous 04/02/14(Wed)02:40 UTC+1 No.645041 Report

>>641531
try a honda trail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CT90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CT110
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Anonymous 04/02/14(Wed)04:14 UTC+1 No.645064 Report

>>637314
>>637247

Shh, you're not allowed to be reasonable on the internet.
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Anonymous 04/02/14(Wed)15:32 UTC+1 No.645247 Report

>>643295
The Gaskettes have a facebook page, most moped groups have a facebook groups to communicate.
I'm not part of a gang I just ride with a few friends, however the closest offical MA gang to me is the Metal ponies. And everyone in the local area just uses the Northeast Mopeds facebook group.
I'm not too savy about the moped facebook groups on the west coast.

Rally season is starting soon, so if you can't go to the Gaskette rally(which is actually the 5th my bad) there's going to be a ton more. EX The Landsquids, Wooly Bullys, Tomahawk Moped racing etc. So you should have a ton of chance to meet with local mopeders
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Anonymous 04/03/14(Thu)10:17 UTC+1 No.645810 Report

>>645247
facebook...got it.

I'll seek out the moped facebook groups
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Anonymous 04/03/14(Thu)11:27 UTC+1 No.645829 Report

>wearing a bike helmet
>implying it would save your life when a bus runs over your squishy body
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Anonymous 04/03/14(Thu)16:40 UTC+1 No.645892 Report

>>645829
>riding in a steel cage
>implying it will save you life when an FP40H runs over your squishy cage
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Anonymous 04/06/14(Sun)20:55 UTC+1 No.647519 Report

>>645829
This is one of the reasons I don't really wear helmets
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Anonymous 04/06/14(Sun)21:37 UTC+1 No.647534 Report

>>647519
Then you don't use any safety equipment ever because there are situations they won't save you, right?

>I don't normally use a helmet either but this is just silly
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Anonymous 04/06/14(Sun)23:20 UTC+1 No.647568 Report

>>647534
>Not understanding sarcasm
I don't wear a helmet because I'm testing my luck
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Anonymous 04/06/14(Sun)23:27 UTC+1 No.647573 Report

>>647568
How would you detect sarcasm from such a flat statement online?
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Anonymous 04/06/14(Sun)23:42 UTC+1 No.647576 Report

>>647568

That post (>>647519) had no sarcasm in it. Maybe you intended it to be sarcastic, but it was a completely straight statement that expressed a sentiment many people believe and frequently say on this board.
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)01:05 UTC+1 No.648053 Report

>>647576
>but it was a completely straight statement that expressed a sentiment many people believe and frequently say on this board.
hence the joke.
you can I both know that idea and sentiment is completely fucking retarded.
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)01:11 UTC+1 No.648054 Report

>>648053
Knowing something's retarded doesn't suddenly make everybody stating it sarcastic. I wish retarded beliefs were that easy to rid the world of.
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)04:13 UTC+1 No.648121 Report

is this a good moped for a first timer?
according to the seller it's a Tomos Voskhod, $200
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)04:20 UTC+1 No.648123 Report

>>648121
yeah.
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)11:11 UTC+1 No.648207 Report

>>648123
Tomos is a good brand, read this wiki page though
>http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/First_moped
>Recommended Brands and Models

>There are well over a hundred brands of mopeds available in North America, but a few stand out as particularly reliable, simple to work on, inexpensive to maintain, and easy to find outside help for. These brands are also notable for having a wealth of aftermarket performance parts available. If you're unhappy with going 30 mph, then you've got options.

>Puch mopeds equipped with the E50 engine, especially most models of Maxi (and Newport), and close cousins, such as the JCPenney Pinto (and Swinger) and Sears Free Spirit.
>Tomos mopeds equipped with the A3, A35 (A5) or A55 engine, such as the Silver Bullet, Targa, ST, or LX. Tomos mopeds are also available brand new from Tomos USA dealerships (for a price premium).
>Minarelli engine mopeds, particularly those with the V1, such as the Cimatti City Bike, General, Motron, some mopeds by Gloria Intramotor, and many other generic Italian mopeds. Very simple bikes with high parts availability. Note that some models, like the City Bike, have their engines mounted in a way that prevents many Minarelli intakes from being used. The 'A' version of the AMF Roadmaster also has a V1 (the McCulloch 'C' version should be avoided at all costs).


>>648054
you make a good point, and it's suddenly occured to me that a great deal of people on /n/ may actually be quite stupid
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)14:25 UTC+1 No.648237 Report

>>648053

You don't understand how sarcasm actually works, do you? You can't just plainly say something that many people say seriously and expect anyone to take it as a joke. Everyone will assume you are seriously espousing a dumb view and call you out on it. Sarcasm requires a more sarcastic delivery than a plain or straight one.
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Anonymous 04/08/14(Tue)16:41 UTC+1 No.648273 Report

>>640945
they would do this in Muskegon. Kalamazoo here.I saw a group of hipsters on their "cafe Racer" mopeds. Wanted to take my actual 450 Cafe by them and see if they noticed
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Anonymous 04/10/14(Thu)10:13 UTC+1 No.649057 Report

>>648237
....
that is how sarcasm works.
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Anonymous 04/10/14(Thu)11:23 UTC+1 No.649068 Report

Moped riders, what type of helmet do you use?
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Anonymous 04/10/14(Thu)19:29 UTC+1 No.649203 Report

>>649057
>You don't understand how sarcasm actually works, do you?
>nope

In face to face conversation, that can be how it works sometimes, but then voice tone would be involved in getting across the sarcasm. In text, that is absolutely how it works.
You must confuse a lot of people
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Anonymous 04/16/14(Wed)13:30 UTC+1 No.651423 Report

A casual bump
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