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Since just about all mountain...
Anonymous 06/17/14(Tue)23:46 UTC+1 No.334536 Report

Since just about all mountain bikes have suspension forks these days, I was wondering. How are these older, high-quality steel mountain bikes on off-road terrain?

I was thinking of buying some old mountain bike off craiglist and making it a bikepacking machine.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:02 UTC+1 No.334544 Report

>How are these older, high-quality steel mountain bikes on off-road terrain?
Bumpy as fuck and heavy in my experience. Works fine on flat terrain, I guess, but there's a reason that all modern mountain bikes have front suspensions.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:35 UTC+1 No.334565 Report

Depends on the terrain.
As far as for bikepacking, a rigid steel mtb sounds pretty good. Unless you have money to drop you don't want suspension anyways since shitty suspension is worse than none. On a small budget, those kinds of bikes are ideal really.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:37 UTC+1 No.334568 Report

The cheap ones are but the good ones are still pretty good (I'm still riding my old steel Bridgestone though I put 80mm shocks on it because I'm not getting younger). Sus forks are heavier after all.

The problem is a lot of them (like the one in OP's picture) have slack angles, and long chainstays, so they aren't as agile on twisty trails. Long chainstays also make it hard to keep enough weight on the back wheel on climbs without the front lifting off the ground. Some rigid bikes have more modern geometry but most didn't, as suspension came in soon after.

So OP, the answer is it depends on the model and year.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:38 UTC+1 No.334569 Report
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>>334536>just about...
>just about all mountain bikes have suspension forks these days,
Get one of these.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:43 UTC+1 No.334572 Report

Considering that op would get it for bikepacking, slackness is more likely to be a positive
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:46 UTC+1 No.334576 Report

I'd love to, but those are definitely way WAY too expensive for me.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)00:47 UTC+1 No.334577 Report
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>>334569ow about one...
ow about one with a motor?
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)02:19 UTC+1 No.334647 Report

Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)02:30 UTC+1 No.334657 Report

dunno i perfer them with normal bike tires
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)02:57 UTC+1 No.334676 Report

how does that non bridged fork works

how does everything works
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)03:08 UTC+1 No.334683 Report

it's called a dual crown fork. They are more robust and usually used on downhill bikes.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)03:21 UTC+1 No.334695 Report


I recently restored an old steel full-rigid for a family member. Took it for a few loops around the local singletrack, and I would say it is preferable to a cheap suntour-fork hardtail. The wheels kinda scare the shit out of me though.... those old single-wall rims are disasters waiting to happen.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)04:11 UTC+1 No.334719 Report

Pretty bumpy. If you want a full-rigid, take a look at fatbikes or the new style mid-fat bikes from Surly.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)05:14 UTC+1 No.334756 Report

Yeah I saw bikepacking after I posted, my point is actually that old bikes can be good if you know what you need.

My main gripe with 80s MTBs is actually the shitty weight distribution for off-road climbing (otoh they're good descenders and great city bikes) but luggage might mitigate that.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)05:19 UTC+1 No.334760 Report

Depends on the trail but if you have skillz, that mitigates the bumpy.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)08:46 UTC+1 No.334807 Report


I trail on a cross-check with 700x37 tyres, which is doable even with some camping load. But it's pretty tiring compared to riding a plush bike. I'll be buying an ECR soon.
Anonymous 06/18/14(Wed)17:13 UTC+1 No.334965 Report

So do I and I agree, on rocky/rooty technical singletrack my MTB is better. OTOH I don't miss suspension on fire roads and easy trails and I think if you're used to just plowing over everything with full suspension instead of picking a line and riding light, it can make rigid bikes seem worse than they are.

I think it would help if we knew what kind of terrain OP has in mind.
Anonymous 06/19/14(Thu)03:37 UTC+1 No.335254 Report


For me the cc gets old when on steep terrain, they're just a drag to climb with and pretty scary going down on rough trail.
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