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So like I've been camping...
Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)09:22 UTC+1 No.270639 Report

So like I've been camping some on my bike and have a fair bit of touring gear, and lately I've done a bit of day hiking with a small pack. But I would like to get into hiking to campsites and maybe bikepacking over regular touring.

Thing is, I don't really want to cut back my luxury too much. I have a two-man tent which is reasonably light and very comfy. An exped SIM which is very comfy, but a little bulky even though much smaller than a foam pad. My stove is a Trangia 27. I guess I can lose some bulk because I don't need as much water, probably can lose the katadyn filter and get by on boiling/treatment. Got a light compact sleeping bag, can lose the pillow.

Do you think it's realistic to solo hike with this kind of gear? What sort of pack size should I be looking at? Thanks for pls responding I will be forever grateful. ._.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)09:26 UTC+1 No.270640 Report

Also my bike luggage has 180lt capacity, which I can and do use. Man I don't even?
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)09:29 UTC+1 No.270642 Report

>>270639
>probably can lose the katadyn filter and get by on boiling/treatment.

>Do you think it's realistic to solo hike with this kind of gear?
No!

Check the water quality and recommended treatment for your area. But hell no. Don't rely on boiling water unless you absolutely have to. It turns into the single least-pleasant part of your trip in about fifteen seconds. It's awful, and you don't want to resort to it unless you have to.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)09:33 UTC+1 No.270643 Report

>>270642

Welp, do other hikers carry a katadyn when solo hiking too? It's the vario model which is kind of bulky compared to the other models, but I need it to fill the various bladders I carry on the bike, thirsty work that cycling.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)09:37 UTC+1 No.270644 Report

I'll also point out that I'm quite strong and can carry a load no probs, and decent sized so my pad is LW sized and the two-duder tent. I suppose I could lose the tent, I've got a 3x3 tarp, but camping is the bit I like more than the walking. :\
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)09:38 UTC+1 No.270645 Report

>>270643
That's perfectly fine for the area I live in, and it's not very bulky and is right on your nalgene. Check the local water-treatment recommendations but yes--I'd definitely use that over any other method you're considering. And my filter is actually bigger and older than that sucker so yeah--take it.

If you want to prove this to yourself, figure out how much water you drink in a day. Now put it in a pot, and boil it on your stove. Then figure out how long it takes to cool down enough for you to drink. Hell, the pot you'll need is gonna be bigger and heavier than the filter anyhow.

Don't lose the tent, either. Pack all your shit. Find a nearby hill, put the pack on, and go walk up and down it a few times. See how you feel from there.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)10:00 UTC+1 No.270649 Report

>>270645

Well I've been out riding and taken a refill from the creek which looked like tea and stunk like rancid mud. Boiling wouldn't have done much for it, neither would iodine or other treatment. I tend to drink a lot anyway as I like doing a piss. :)
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)10:15 UTC+1 No.270652 Report

Anyway just trying to lose the cruft. I don't think a trangia is cruft as I like the mess with kettle. Maybe a smaller pad or something like a thermarest foam pad that straps outside the pack. I don't much like fully inflatable mats, even though they pack pretty small.

Do big packs assist with compression much? My stuff is a bit bulky but can squeeze down ok, and really doesn't weigh a super lot, last time I weighed it I loaded the lot in a duffle bag and it came to 12kg including a few dry bags, 3x3 tarp with guys and other bits and pieces.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)10:55 UTC+1 No.270664 Report

>>270652
I'm not a very good backpacker, but no one else is responding so...

Backpacking isn't about survivalism, minimalism, or any of the rest of that crap. It's about having a really nice time walking to somewhere not many people can be bothered to go.

Maybe I'm just lazy. But if you are planning your trip based on how well you can carefully compress and pack your shit? You're doing it wrong.

When you're actually out on the trail, you want to just take a drink of water, or just light a fire with a lighter, or just toss your shit in your pack. All the careful, time-saving things that you think you're going to do when you're sitting at home and meticulously planning your trip?

You're not gonna do any of it. You're gonna go for a walk, stop when you get tired, drink when you're thirsty, and eat when you're hungry. The most important part in planning is doing it so well that, once you get to the execution? You can toss half your planning out the window.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)11:00 UTC+1 No.270667 Report

>>270664

I'm basically trying to figure how big a pack. I'm looking at 60-80l kind of packs.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)11:13 UTC+1 No.270671 Report

>>270667
Alright--that sounds big. Go for it. Toss your stuff in a trash-bag. How well does it fit? Base your pack size on that.

Back-packing really isn't complicated, in the end.

Just pack baby-wipes. As many as you can fit. It makes life so much better to just be able to wash your face and ass-crack, in the morning, and know that those places are clean. You feel like a go-getter if you slept in the woods and are like "Yeah, but my anus smells like 'Summer Breeze,' bitch."

Do practice runs. If you feel good about them? Then go for it. Don't get caught up in gear and measurements. It's fun out there--enjoy it.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)11:30 UTC+1 No.270684 Report

>>270671

OP here. As I said I'm an experienced camper, just looking to transition to hiking. I use meths from the trangia to give my ass a bit of a wipe when cycling. It keeps the boils down.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)11:35 UTC+1 No.270686 Report
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>>270684you wat?anyway...
>>270684
you wat?

anyway take a cart if you're that worried about weight
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)11:41 UTC+1 No.270690 Report

>>270686

That's worse than polefags.
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Anonymous 02/15/14(Sat)12:21 UTC+1 No.270708 Report
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>>270690why's that?...
>>270690
why's that? if the terrain permits it it's actually nice to have

If you build the cart yourself like I did, the cart can be broken down and used for other things. Like serving as poles for tents, hammocks, etc.

If there's snow you can put sleds on it and pull it instead of sinking
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Anonymous 02/16/14(Sun)00:11 UTC+1 No.271028 Report

>>270708

If you read the thread, the OP is already a cycle tourist which is probably a better apparatus than a trailer.
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Anonymous 02/16/14(Sun)06:38 UTC+1 No.271169 Report

>>270686
a ha ahh ha ha har. are you fucking serious?
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Anonymous 02/16/14(Sun)08:39 UTC+1 No.271200 Report

>>270708

1/10, enough to kill the thread.
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Anonymous 02/19/14(Wed)08:29 UTC+1 No.272958 Report

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