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Golden Ratio vs. Rule of Thirds Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)18:36 UTC+1 No.2361778 Report

Which is the better tool for composition. Is the Rule of Thirds merely a simplification of the Golden Ratio for plebs?
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)19:02 UTC+1 No.2361797 Report

>>2361778
>Is the Rule of Thirds merely a simplification of the Golden Ratio for plebs?
If you knew how to use either of them, you wouldn't be asking.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)19:21 UTC+1 No.2361813 Report

>>2361778
>Golden Ratio vs. Rule of Thirds
The Rule of thirds is just a cheap knock off ot the golden ratio.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)19:22 UTC+1 No.2361814 Report

None of these are law, they are just guides to help balance out your composition.

if it looks right, it is right.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)19:22 UTC+1 No.2361816 Report

>>2361797
>If you knew how to use either of them, you wouldn't be asking.
Isn't that why people generally ask questions?
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)20:51 UTC+1 No.2361872 Report

>>2361797
>If you knew how to use either of them, you wouldn't be asking.

Holy shit, did you figure that out on your own there Captain Obvious?
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)20:56 UTC+1 No.2361877 Report

>>2361778
It's better that you flip your image and rotate it different ways to check balance, than to follow such a guide. That said, both can be useful at times.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:08 UTC+1 No.2361889 Report

>>2361778
I don't understand how to use the golden ratio. Thirds make more sense to me. Anyway there is more to composition than just making stuff line up to a grid.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:10 UTC+1 No.2361890 Report

How about instead of overlaying all sorts of ridiculous grids on top of your photos, why don't you just try actually looking at the photo to determine if the composition is pleasing.

like >>2361877 said, looking at your photo upside down and mirrored and stuff like that is pretty helpful. Cartier-Bresson was kind of infamous for taking people's contact sheets and not even looking at them right side up when he was at Magnum.

Unfocusing your eyes while looking at the photo is also a good way to see the basic composition better without all the fine detail getting in the way.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:11 UTC+1 No.2361891 Report

>>2361890
Good tips
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:11 UTC+1 No.2361892 Report

>>2361889
The human eye starts at one point in an image and searches around it on a circle. Know where the eye wants to go naturally can help you compose your image to lead the viewer's eye with intention. Westerner's eyes tend to start at the bottom left and go in a clockwise motion
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:16 UTC+1 No.2361894 Report

>>2361890
>How about instead of overlaying all sorts of ridiculous grids on top of your photos

Who said anything about using overlays?
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:17 UTC+1 No.2361895 Report
File: 5.jpg-(125x83)
>>2361778>not using...
>>2361778
>not using the golden giraffe
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)21:39 UTC+1 No.2361905 Report

>Rules are foolish, arbitrary, mindless things that quickly to a level of acceptable mediocrity, then prevent you from progressing further.
This one is from The Art of Photography by Bruce Barnbaum. Just take it the way it looks nice. If it is rule of thirds, then rule of thirds, if it is golden ratio, then golden ratio.
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Anonymous 07/12/14(Sat)23:27 UTC+1 No.2361942 Report

>>2361895

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Anonymous 07/14/14(Mon)20:34 UTC+1 No.2363138 Report

>>2361905
OP: how do I take nice pictures?
anon: take it the way it looks nice.
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Anonymous 07/14/14(Mon)20:42 UTC+1 No.2363147 Report

>>2363138
because this is the only way that is true for all pictures. You can not suggest a rule that is true for all shoots. However, you can suggest a workflow like find what made you want to picture this, strengthen it and weaken everything that works against it.
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Anonymous 07/14/14(Mon)23:40 UTC+1 No.2363301 Report

>>2361778
1. TBH golden ratio is a number. approx 1.6
your pic related (golden spiral) is a way how to construct it with a compasses
so you can use golden ratio in countless other ways than rule of "thirds" or golden spiral - when you somehow divide your image into different shapes in 1.6 ratio

2. instead of term "rules" i prefer "design patterns". that means... if you don't have better idea or you don't know what are you doing you have better chance to succees with following a design pattern.

except for golden ratio based DPs there are others like "filling the frame with subjects", "symmetry", "balance", "disturbing element in the rhytm",...
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Anonymous 07/15/14(Tue)01:53 UTC+1 No.2363415 Report

>>2363301
>instead of term "rules" i prefer "design patterns"
I liked this one. This is how one should take it
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