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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)04:37 UTC+1 No.2371001 Report

Hey guys, don't often come here but I need some help.

I'm thinking about getting either a Canon 7D or 6D, but not sure which to go for. I've heard great things about the 7D, but don't know nearly as much about the 6D, except that it's pretty decent a low-light shooting.

I'll mostly be using it for short films.

Which do you guys think is the better option?

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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)05:31 UTC+1 No.2371027 Report

canon m why bother with all that shit when you can get this shit.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)05:36 UTC+1 No.2371031 Report

>>2371001
Do your own research and make your own decision, big boy.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)06:28 UTC+1 No.2371052 Report

>>2371001

>Short films

Neither. 7D has horrible rolling shutter, 6D has horrible moire. Go with a GH3 for the same price.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)06:42 UTC+1 No.2371055 Report

>>2371052
>6D has horrible moire
get a load of this guy

>>2371001
OP if you go canon and are going to use it for video, get a lens with IS
oh and the 6D is just fine
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)06:57 UTC+1 No.2371062 Report

If you want to buy new, don't get the 7D because the 7D mkII is coming in a few months.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)07:48 UTC+1 No.2371094 Report

>>2371062
Are specs for the new mk2 out yet?

There's a sale on now at the moment, so I could get a new 7D for a very good price.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)12:12 UTC+1 No.2371221 Report

I own a 7D.

I do like it but I would not in any way shape or form recommend someone buy one in 2014.

Definitely check out a 6D
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)12:18 UTC+1 No.2371225 Report

>>2371001
>video
>Canon

nah don't
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)13:23 UTC+1 No.2371247 Report

>>2371221
>I do like it but I would not in any way shape or form recommend someone buy one in 2014.

I would. It still kicks ass. For movies I would recommend a 70D over it. But for stills involving any kind of action? 7 fucking D unless you can afford a 1DX.

The thing that continues to impress me to this day about the 7D is its responsiveness. It feels, tracks, and handles like professional sports body. A lot of bodies look similar on paper, but they hiccup, lose track, or just slam into their buffer limit. Plus the 7D is a tank. I have no hesitation taking it into shit weather conditions.

But OP wants movies, so 70D or 6D. I would actually lean towards the 70D here for the video AF (yeah, yeah pros MF...but sometimes it's nice) and the screen.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)14:54 UTC+1 No.2371300 Report

>>2371001
Had both, if at the same or near same price, get the 6D, it's clearly the winner.

But the 7D is a very good camera, if not compared to other cameras.

If you want the best, or the camera people say is the best, go for the 6D, if you want a good enough camera, and some money to spend on glass, go for the 7D
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)16:07 UTC+1 No.2371335 Report

>>2371247

I don't think the 70D has any support for Magic Lantern though.

A 5DMK2 is cheap, don't know if it's better or worse than the 6D. More capable of RAW-video if you're looking for that though.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)16:11 UTC+1 No.2371336 Report

>>2371247
>or movies I would recommend a 7
I use a 7D my company owns all the time. I fucking hate it. The files that come out of it look like trash compared to my personal 5Dc. The colors are gross, the dynamic range is laughable, and the high ISO is hideous. The cameras only good points are the durability and the AF system at a cheap price point, but inside it's a 7 year old rebel wearing daddy's clothes.

>>2371225
Shut up troll.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)21:38 UTC+1 No.2371619 Report

>>2371001
Sony FS 700
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)22:36 UTC+1 No.2371672 Report

>>2371336

I've owned both. 7D files have more fine detail, slightly more DR, and slightly less noise then 5Dc files. Color is about the same. The DR differences aren't that great in RAW (though JPEG with HTP is world's better) and neither are the noise differences except at 3200 were the 7D doesn't have any of the color blotching that the 5Dc has. At 6400 the 7D starts to fall apart, but the 5Dc doesn't go there at all.

Fine detail is a big deal in landscape shots though, the 7D will simply support larger print sizes.

The people who argue this do so because "muh full FRAME!" and not because they've actually made and compared large prints from both. Oh, and they always put both at 100% in PS without actually scaling the images to the same pixel dimensions. They magnify the 7D file 33% more then complain it doesn't look as sharp or they can see more noise. HURR DURR

5Dc was a great camera but Canon's APS-C sensors from the 7D on edge it out.
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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)22:53 UTC+1 No.2371680 Report

I love my 6D, my only experience with APSC Canons was the 1100D so I cannot comment really on the 7D end of things. I will say what I think of my 6D, I'm about 10k actuations into it and I have done a few videos.
The AF is very poor. It hunts for focus on anything other than the centre point.
There's no headphone jack
You cannot record decent resolution RAW video as the camera only has one SD card slot which is quite slow.
ML is working perfectly on it
The sensor performs very well.
Battery life is very good

There's not much more really to it.. Honestly if I was you I would wait for the new 7D or maybe look at a different system completely for video (GH3/4 etc). 6D is nice and all but it's certainly lacking in features

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Anonymous 07/25/14(Fri)22:58 UTC+1 No.2371685 Report

>>2371672
Not in my experience. Colors are especially more vibrant and wonderful on the 5D. Something I am never pleased with on the 7D.

And while the noise on the 5D might be more noticeable (larger photo sites) It's also a lot more pleasing (to me, though I've heard a LOT of people say the same thing)
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Anonymous 07/26/14(Sat)01:17 UTC+1 No.2371779 Report

Is a Canon eos 600D good for short films? I'm just a beginner so yeah...
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Anonymous 07/26/14(Sat)01:18 UTC+1 No.2371782 Report

>>2371619
see
>>2371779
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Anonymous 07/26/14(Sat)01:29 UTC+1 No.2371785 Report

>>2371685

sounds like you only look at jpegs or some shit.

i abuse the fuck out of my 7D. if you nail your exposure within a stop in raw you're good to go. noise isn't a problem. remove color noise slider to the max for every single photo you ever take, that's the first thing you sync in lightroom. then noise slider to like 20-30 to take out some of that grain.

it's a noisy sensor at ISO 640 or 6400, you just learn to accept that and use NR and only shoot raw, keep your exposure within a stop of where it should be.

dynamic range, lol, even the 1Dx has 11 stops at base ISO just like the 7D or pretty much any canon sensor. process your raw files correctly and light accordingly. push shadows, pull highlights, selectively burn and dodge certain parts of a photo as necessary. simple fixes for a working photographer.

as for video, fuck that, get a video camera in the first place.
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