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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)10:06 UTC+1 No.2348612 Report

People don't seem to talk about wide angles very much on here - I'm looking to get a wide angle lens for a crop canon, maybe around 24mm. I just want sharp group shots of people, sharper than what I'm getting on the kit. budget around $400. any recommendations? I'm down to adapt other brands too, even hunt down SLR primes, I just don't know much about this particular focal range.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)10:11 UTC+1 No.2348615 Report

>>2348612
you should consider deleting your thread and re-asking in the gear general, people will be less likely to ignore your post or provide troll responses
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)10:18 UTC+1 No.2348620 Report

>>2348615
I field this question once every week or so in gear threads and it goes completely unanswered cause it's always in the middle of the 500th heated debate about when Canon will update their old sensors or should I Buy a T3i or a D5200 or another rousing mirrorless discussion. it's a fairly specific question - who's shooting on wide lenses? what are you shooting on? do you like it?
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Ayya 06/25/14(Wed)10:25 UTC+1 No.2348626 Report

>>2348620
fair enough

isn't there a new canon crop wide zoom out?
get a used one of those.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)10:29 UTC+1 No.2348629 Report

Tokina 11-16 f2.8.
Sigma 18-35 f1.8
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)10:38 UTC+1 No.2348634 Report

If you can afford it, tokina 11-16 all day. If you don't need a fast lens then maybe the new canon 10-18
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)10:45 UTC+1 No.2348635 Report

>>2348620
it's taken you weeks to make one decision?
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)11:45 UTC+1 No.2348661 Report

>>2348612
>maybe around 24mm
if this is wide enough for you, use your kit lens, i'm sure they have such focal length in range
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)14:15 UTC+1 No.2348701 Report

>>2348620
Yeah that's true, there was a time when I used to like those "debates" but it's so repetitive.

Regardless, it's good to have a thread dedicated to those kinds of arguments, but it makes it damn near impossible for people like OP looking for a legitimate source of advice.

Sigma 18-35 works pretty good IMHO
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)15:05 UTC+1 No.2348730 Report

>>2348634
this. the new Canon lens is one hell of a value for the money
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)16:06 UTC+1 No.2348772 Report

The rokinon 16mm 2.2 hasn't come off my GH2 in a while. I'm pretty much in love. You couldn't ask for more in a manual wide angle lens.

And while it's intended for use with cropped sensors I was able to use it with a rip off speedbooster with no vignetting.

It's images are super crisp and I'll be hard pressed to think of a better wide for video. I think it's no very popular just because theres a plethora of more convenient lenses at and around the focal length.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)16:52 UTC+1 No.2348796 Report

Sigma 8-16 for ultraultra wide
tokina 11-16 for build quality and sharpness
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)19:17 UTC+1 No.2348860 Report

>>2348615
>delete your thread
It boggles the mind that people still say this. Moot changed it quite some time ago so threads can not be deleted.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)19:19 UTC+1 No.2348862 Report

>>2348612
I would agree with the other poster, if 24mm is wide enough for you, just use your kit lens. Otherwise, the Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-18 are usually recommended.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)19:32 UTC+1 No.2348870 Report

>>2348860
Not everyone is completely in sync with all the subtle retarded and pointless changes moot has made over the past year.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)20:41 UTC+1 No.2348917 Report

>>2348862
the problem w/ the 18-55 is, after a certain distance from the subject, the chromabs become a bit much, and the sharpness really drops off. I won't show you my shitty snaps, but I need something for large group shots where I can fit everyone in and still have them reasonably sharp.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)20:51 UTC+1 No.2348923 Report

>>2348870
If you'd ever tried to delete a thread in the past couple months, you would know this. If not, then you learned it today.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)20:52 UTC+1 No.2348925 Report

>>2348923
Most people don't make retarded threads and then try to delete them. I've personally never deleted a thread in the entire six years I've been here.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)22:18 UTC+1 No.2348985 Report

>>2348925
That's your own problem. It used to be a handy function. For example, if you ever wanted to contain a shitposting shitstorm that happened in one of the thread you posted by just deleting the thread.
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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)22:34 UTC+1 No.2348999 Report

>>2348629
>>2348701
>18mm on crop
>wide angle

nah
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killing time 06/25/14(Wed)22:51 UTC+1 No.2349022 Report

>>2348612
>People don't seem to talk about wide angles very much on here - I'm looking to get a wide angle lens for a crop canon, maybe around 24mm. I just want sharp group shots of people, sharper than what I'm getting on the kit. budget around $400. any recommendations? I'm down to adapt other brands too, even hunt down SLR primes, I just don't know much about this particular focal range.

Have you any idea how many lenses there are that fit that set of requirements?

Okey wide angle. You don't want to take pics of people with them other than as a last resort. It doesn't look at all flattering. Get a nifty fity and step further away from the people you are trying to take a pic of.

Still if you insist on getting a wide angle lens (as as someone who's 16-35mm pretty much lives on the camera I can't really object) your options are

1)Samyang. Depending on where you live may also be called rokinon, Bower, Opteka or a bunch of other names. The choice would be between the 16mm f/2.0 or the 24mm f/1.4

Catch is that these are manual lenses. No autofocus. No electronics at all in fact. Also canon's light metering stuggles when it can't talk talk to the lens so expect to have to spend time messing around to get the exposure right. Still you will learn a lot using these lenses. Makes you really think about light.

2)Whatever tokina and simga are selling in that range. Autofocus and should talk to your camera. People won't object to having to stand around for a minute or so while you get the exposure and focus right.

>who's shooting on wide lenses? what are you shooting on? do you like it?

Me, Canon 5DIII with canon 14mm, canon 16-35 and samyang 8mm fisheye. Do I like it? well its okay.

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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)23:04 UTC+1 No.2349033 Report

>>2349022
>Have you any idea how many lenses there are that fit that set of requirements?
I find it funny that you can only name two such lenses.
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killing time 06/25/14(Wed)23:30 UTC+1 No.2349040 Report

>>2349033
Tokina AT-X 124 12-24mm f/4 AF PRO DX II
Sigma 24mm F1.8 EX DG Aspherical Macro
Tamron SP AF10-24mm F/3.5-4.5 Di-II
Tokina AT-X 17-35 F4 PRO FX 17-35mm F/4
Tokina AT-X 12-28 PRO DX AF 12-28mm F/4

Second hand
Canon EF 24mm f/2.8
Canon EF 24mm F2.8 IS USM
Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 II DG HSM lens
Tokina AT-X 16-28 F2.8 PRO FX 16-28mm F2.8 Lens

Next time run your own damn searches

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Anonymous 06/25/14(Wed)23:51 UTC+1 No.2349048 Report

>>2349040
Why is the right side of that image so soft looking? Field curvature?
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Anonymous 06/26/14(Thu)02:34 UTC+1 No.2349108 Report

Canon 17-40 f4L. Lot cheaper than 16-35 f/2.8 or primes. Also EF so you keep it for full frame. Also weather sealed. Not a bad step up from 18-55 kit, if you can tolerate no IS and f/4.
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Anonymous 06/26/14(Thu)02:39 UTC+1 No.2349110 Report

>>2349040
#schooled
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BJDrew 06/26/14(Thu)03:33 UTC+1 No.2349156 Report

I freak out when I don't have a really wide lens.

But basically son't have any really good photos taken super wide.

My theory is that pretty much everyone sucks at ultrawide and that 99.9% of ultrawide photos suck hard. What awesome photos do you want to get with your superwide lens? And be honest about whether they will be important for you

Pic related. A Shitty ultrawide photo

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Anonymous 06/26/14(Thu)04:08 UTC+1 No.2349186 Report

>>2349156
Pretty much. Unless you are shooting say architecture on a really cloudy day dynamic range is going to be an issue and framing is often pretty nominal. That said 24mm on a crop isn't really ultrawide

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Anonymous 06/26/14(Thu)04:37 UTC+1 No.2349205 Report

This is kinda wide.
14mm on FF
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Anonymous 06/29/14(Sun)06:31 UTC+1 No.2351415 Report

>>2349205
Nice horizon arrangement.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)17:57 UTC+1 No.2354292 Report

>>2349156
Look at all that clipping and noise...
Fuck the wide angle, you need a kit lens and a book on photography basics.

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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)18:00 UTC+1 No.2354296 Report

>>2349156
Yeah, your photo is "shitty" because you're using it the wrong way.

Generally ultrawide shines where you can get super close and super intimate with a subject, and really exaggerate the depth of your image. What your'e doing with that photo is "getting it all in", plus...nothing is really there. It's just some plates on a shelf.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)18:09 UTC+1 No.2354302 Report

>>2349186
It's all so blurry... and you didn't do anything to correct for perspective.
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)18:33 UTC+1 No.2354336 Report

>>2354292
> Picture of shiny white plates
> OMG CLIPPING I MUST TELL HIM ABOUT IT
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Anonymous 07/02/14(Wed)18:41 UTC+1 No.2354340 Report

>>2354336
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