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The journey continues bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:37 UTC+1 No.2368902 Report

A new week, a new thread. Advice, critique, belligerent comments all welcome. Watch my journey from turd-tier snapshit to master of turd tier snapshit. Screenshots of previous threads will be posted later.

In recent events: I have crap on my sensor, what do?

I've been using A, trying to set up shots with more attention to lighting and composition, and watching/reading about composition guidelines while not out shooting. I used a lot of autofocus today and had a ton of photos that were either parkinson-tier or out of focus. I think this is a combination of the dirty equipment, my unsteady nerd arms, and the longer shutter times from aperture priority. My plans for the near future include figuring out how to clean my element and lenses, and getting a strap for the camera to help me shoot from a more stable position. I also have a weird arm brace shoulder pad thing I might try.

I really like animals and people as subjects. I'm going to start actively looking for someone that owns livestock or something to practice on.

I also tried shooting later in the evening. I think I like the light more but I'm still fucking up with my positioning and composition.

This is my favorite picture from this week so far.

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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:40 UTC+1 No.2368905 Report

Two subjects separated by a bunch of wasted space. I don't like this one. How can I improve this?

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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:41 UTC+1 No.2368906 Report

I've figured out how to size my pictures properly too.

See I'm not hopeless.

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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:42 UTC+1 No.2368909 Report

Was black and white a bad choice here?

I'm admittedly just tried this one because I liked it better as black and white. I don't have a strong logical reason for doing it.

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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:44 UTC+1 No.2368913 Report



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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:46 UTC+1 No.2368916 Report



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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:47 UTC+1 No.2368917 Report



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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:50 UTC+1 No.2368920 Report

These horses were the most fun subjects I've had. They really enjoyed the attention.

Sadly I'm a moron and didn't notice barbed wire and fence posts, or the fact that I was slopping the camera around like a bowl of jello. I'm going to post them because I want to know if they have good composition, in spite of the shit focus and stupid foreground shit. I also tried to post process out some of the mistakes in them so comments there will help too.

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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:51 UTC+1 No.2368921 Report



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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)04:52 UTC+1 No.2368922 Report

That's all for tonight. Let me know what you guys think.

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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)05:10 UTC+1 No.2368939 Report

Per request here is a screenshot of the first thread.

The second thread can still be found at >>2364784
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Anonymous 07/22/14(Tue)05:39 UTC+1 No.2368958 Report

>>2368902
nice
>>2368905
shoot lying down
>>2368906
neat
>>2368909
yes
>>2368913
ok
>>2368916
eh
>>2368917
nothing in focus
>>2368920
overexposed, horse poorly framed
>>2368921
>>2368921
>>2368922
underexposed, horse positioning makes for bad composition

i think you have potential
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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)06:01 UTC+1 No.2368972 Report

>>2368958

Boomshackalacka. I really do like that first one.

Right after posting it I had the same thought. "I should have shot that lying down.

Thanks.

Why? I'm getting curious about when black and white is a good idea even though I'm probably not ready for it.

I'll take it.

I agree. Too much space wasted.

I still let out of focus pictures slip by sometimes, I apologize.

I agree on all horse points. I wish I could have hopped the fence and gotten a better angle and not muddled around like an idiot so long. It was stressful dodging traffic in between shots.

That is the most encouraging reply I've gotten so far. Thanks.
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Anonymous 07/22/14(Tue)06:21 UTC+1 No.2368988 Report

>>2368972
the colors you had available were vibrant and just generally really nice, b/w didn't help the picture or make it more interesting in any way.

also looking closer the horizon isn't level, always make your horizons level until you really think you're good enough to know when non-horizontal can be used to good effect

b/w is good for dull color shots, and for people/portraits when you want to have more focus on the features of the shot than the coloring.
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bottle 07/22/14(Tue)22:11 UTC+1 No.2369399 Report

>>2368988
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks again for the input. I noticed the horizon issue on the duck photo too. It slipped by and I didn't notice it, it's something I'm capable of fixing in photoshop, but obviously need to pay more attention to when shooting in the first place.

I should be able to take some more later this week once I clean everything and take care of some IRL stuff.
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lou4lou 07/22/14(Tue)22:53 UTC+1 No.2369433 Report

OP, use a goddamn polarizer...
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Anonymous 07/22/14(Tue)22:56 UTC+1 No.2369437 Report

If I may offer a bit of advice, think about what it is that interests you about a scene and try to capture that. Some of these have too much going on in them, and I'm not sure where I'm supposed to be looking; others, while colourful, have absolutely nothing.

This shot >>2368913
would have worked better if you had concentrated on the geese alone and excluded the trees and shoreline. Perhaps if you had waited a while the birds may have positioned themselves in a certain way such that their reflections formed an interesting composition (wildlife photography tends to involve a lot of waiting for the right moment).

Like somebody else said, the horse images are poorly framed. Part of what makes a good photographer is the ability to see familiar objects in new ways; maybe try a less obvious vantage point next time to create some interest.

I can't remember if it was you that I advised in a previous thread to simplify his images; based on this thread, my advice still stands.
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lou4lou 07/22/14(Tue)22:57 UTC+1 No.2369438 Report

anyways
>>2368921
needs fill flash
>>2368917
burned
>>2368913
i like the compo. you need a PL filter
>>2368905
the background is out of focus, too slightly to say it's wanted. Use hyperfocal focusing distance to shoot landscapes
>>2368902
not bad but burnt sky again. PL filter
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Anonymous 07/22/14(Tue)22:59 UTC+1 No.2369439 Report

If the second thread can still be found, maybe we don't need another thread of your snapshit.

Just a thought.
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lou4lou 07/22/14(Tue)23:03 UTC+1 No.2369441 Report

also i have the feeling you're shooting too open, not to say wide open (see pictures where nothing is in focus). Close your aperture to f8 / f11, you'll gain sharpness and depth of field.
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bottle 07/23/14(Wed)01:48 UTC+1 No.2369490 Report

>>2369441
I've consistently had this problem. f8 has become my biggest aperture size when dealing with shots like this, which is an improvement but not ideal. What I've noticed is when I close my aperture more I can't see a visible difference in my depth of field in the viewfinder. It usually makes very little difference. At one point yesterday I pumped it up to f22 and still couldn't tell if my DOF was any larger. What am I doing wrong? How can I tell where between f8 and f11 I should be?

Tomorrow I'm slapping a PL filter on every lens I have one for and will probably try some more shots like this.
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bottle 07/23/14(Wed)02:00 UTC+1 No.2369493 Report

>>2369437
In all of these I had an intent when composing them, but they're almost all very poorly executed. I'm still working on that. I am for sure thinking about what I want to capture, though.

So, when I included the horizon I thought it would help reinforce the straight line the geese were moving in, since it was parallel to their movement. Is there any way I could have accomplished that? Maybe a lower angle? The horizon should definitely be level at least.

In any case I'm bringing a tripod next time and spending more time watching the birds so I can get some better composed shots of them filling the frame in less cluttered compositions.
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lou4lou 07/23/14(Wed)09:00 UTC+1 No.2369716 Report

>>2369490
you'll never gonna see any difference in the viewfinder. The more you shoot, the more you'll accurately know where and how deep your DOF is. Search for "hyperfocal" on google, it'll tell you more how to get everything in focus for your camera (see "DOF calculators on the net too). f8 and f11 are the sharpest apertures on most lenses, it gets soft beyond and before these
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lou4lou 07/23/14(Wed)09:02 UTC+1 No.2369717 Report

>>2369490
also protip : buy the largest PL filter you can (ie 82mm) and step-down adapters for all your lenses. (ie 82mm to 56mm adapter). Way cheaper than buying each lens a pl filter.
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