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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:32 UTC+1 No.6613616 Report

Anyone here in grad school?

I'm 6 years into a PhD program and nearing my defense. I absolutely despise writing academic papers. It's practically a phobia at this point, I get sick to my stomach even thinking about it.

Anyone have similar experiences?
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:35 UTC+1 No.6613621 Report

>>6613616
What's so unpleasant about writing academic papers.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:37 UTC+1 No.6613626 Report

>>6613621

I've been working on one journal paper for a year and a half. It's bad and won't ever be anything other than bad. Yet I still have to respond to reviewers and put up a good faith effort so that my PI will be satisfied.

It will probably get accepted too.

I hate this shit.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:38 UTC+1 No.6613632 Report

>>6613626
yeah but you never did explain what exactly is so bad about writing a paper.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:41 UTC+1 No.6613648 Report

>>6613632

Writing about complicated things in a way that is simultaneously concise, understandable and correct is very difficult. Good luck if you also want it to be pleasant to read.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:46 UTC+1 No.6613660 Report

>>6613648
>Good luck if you also want it to be pleasant to read.

The trick is puns.

If you're looking for a challenge, iambic pentameter helps a lot too.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00800a036
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:48 UTC+1 No.6613665 Report

>>6613660

I really don't think puns are going to help me. I have reviewers writing me three paragraph essays about how they're confused by my use of passive voice.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:49 UTC+1 No.6613666 Report

>>6613616
>I'm 6 years into a PhD program and nearing my defense. I absolutely despise writing academic papers. It's practically a phobia at this point, I get sick to my stomach even thinking about it.

wow… talk about fucking up his life. how come it took you so long to realize that your future profession is something you despise doing?
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:49 UTC+1 No.6613667 Report

>>6613665
The active voice is overrated.

Sorry, that should be "people overrate the active voice."
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)04:52 UTC+1 No.6613675 Report

>>6613666

I've known for a while.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:08 UTC+1 No.6613698 Report

>>6613616
I think it gets easier. A lot of background can be re-used with minor updating. Format and jargon will be the same on next paper.

You can also collaborate. Some people are writing machines, banging out a paper in no time. Hook up with that.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:18 UTC+1 No.6613717 Report

>>6613698
>Format and jargon will be the same on next paper.

It probably hasn't helped that in six years I've worked on several completely different research projects. My work is cross disciplinary as well, so what is considered "good writing" for one venue is not for the other.

As for getting someone to right it for me: hah. Everyone says, "you're a native speaker, this should be easy for you!"
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:19 UTC+1 No.6613719 Report

>>6613717

The typo is fitting...
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:21 UTC+1 No.6613722 Report

>>6613667
Completely agree. I never understood why active voice was the voice you were "supposed" to write in. Passive voice and active voice readings never really felt different to me.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:27 UTC+1 No.6613727 Report

Is your post related to math/science?
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:33 UTC+1 No.6613730 Report

>>6613727

I'm pretty sure research fits in with math / science.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:33 UTC+1 No.6613732 Report

>>6613616

I am an I/O Psychology PhD student. I'm am enjoying myself a lot. I have a job lined up that is about 110k starting too.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.6613734 Report

>>6613616
I'm a postdoc and let me tell you it does not get easier. Learn to write cohesive ideas fast.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:35 UTC+1 No.6613738 Report

>>6613734

I think I will kill myself before becoming a postdoc. None that I've worked with seemed to enjoy it, and they all ended up leaving academia eventually anyway.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:38 UTC+1 No.6613742 Report

>>6613738
Depends what you want to do. The best way for me to get my research done is by getting my own lab, which requires (usually) a tenure-track position. So the postdoc(s) (yes you can do more than one) are helpful in that they teach you new skills and methods.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:54 UTC+1 No.6613760 Report

>>6613648
Writing something coherent and understandable is easy.

Coming up with research to write about that's actually original, interesting, and relevant is the hard part.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:58 UTC+1 No.6613762 Report

>>6613760
Not really, once you find your niche
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)05:59 UTC+1 No.6613763 Report

>>6613616
I'm just about to start a PhD program and I'm already contemplating dropping out once I complete the requirements for the MS and maybe doing the PhD work part-time afterwards.

I don't abhor research. When I find a project that's genuinely interesting or challenging I have a great time working on it, but I get far more satisfaction from teaching and outreach than from crunching data in the lab.
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)06:00 UTC+1 No.6613764 Report

>>6613616
So what subject did you have to do research on?
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)06:01 UTC+1 No.6613768 Report

>>6613764

AI planning / robotics
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Anonymous 06/27/14(Fri)07:12 UTC+1 No.6613863 Report

>>6613616
I'm in grad school. 6 months into (3 year Australian) Ph.D. program.

I'm writing my first two papers at the moment so I can't really speak to developing phobias.
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