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Stat me /tg/
Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)13:29 UTC+1 No.34387597 Report

Stat me /tg/
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)13:35 UTC+1 No.34387644 Report

Video Game
Multiplatform (3)
720P

Feats:
Beat sales expectations.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)14:25 UTC+1 No.34388133 Report

>>34387597
nWod mage the awakening

mastigos

4 dots space
2 mind
3 life (maybe?)
3 forces

id say citizen agent for the free council but could be other things too.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)14:31 UTC+1 No.34388198 Report
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stat me /tg/
stat me /tg/
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)14:32 UTC+1 No.34388204 Report

>>34388198
+1 looks like david bowie
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)14:36 UTC+1 No.34388241 Report

>>34388198
Special Attack: King Engine
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)14:52 UTC+1 No.34388394 Report

>>34388198
King/10
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)15:10 UTC+1 No.34388573 Report

>>34387597
Lawful Boring or Chaotic Fun
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)16:01 UTC+1 No.34389129 Report
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Stat me, in GURPS if you...
Stat me, in GURPS if you would.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)16:02 UTC+1 No.34389157 Report

>>34387597
Factotum / tefflamar shadowlord.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)16:08 UTC+1 No.34389232 Report

>>34388198
The strongest
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)16:15 UTC+1 No.34389317 Report

>>34387597
Warlock, traitor, dishonored.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)16:26 UTC+1 No.34389461 Report

>>34387597
Wizard Pedophile
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)16:29 UTC+1 No.34389525 Report

>>34389461
wait how was corvo a pedophile? emily is his daughter.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)17:48 UTC+1 No.34390786 Report

>>34389525
I don't see a problem
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)19:57 UTC+1 No.34392705 Report

>>34389525
>not fucking your queen daughter

When you're as powerful as corvo nothing stops you
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:04 UTC+1 No.34392834 Report

>>34387597
I never got that game. Was it like Bioshock, where new (console) generation gets all hots for a game without realizing it's just a simplified version of something older. To me the gameplay felt like Thief mixed with Bioshock and the story was "meh". I mean, within minutes they just throw exposition and "because we say so" and I don't even know what's going on.

Also, fuck you, game, for blaming me for everything. So I killed a few guards who would have gladly butchered me given the chance. I left all civilians and targets alive. But nope, I'm worse than Hitler. Because of game reasons.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:19 UTC+1 No.34393105 Report

>>34392834
Fuck you for killing innocent guards yet letting those who plotted against the crown for their own good live
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:24 UTC+1 No.34393181 Report

>>34393105
>uphold a corrupt and unlawful regime
>oppress the population
>innocent

What was it about evil and good men doing nothing?

Also, street justice is not justice. It's better to drag them out in the open and expose all their crimes than let them die as martyrs. Soldiers die in wars, even civil ones, but the leaders get dragged through legal process and sentenced by the courts and the people, not by a lone vigilante.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:26 UTC+1 No.34393210 Report

>>34392834
How many is "a few" ? I remember killing maybe 10ish, my first run through. Still got the low chaos ending. And once I knew i had secured that good ending, I went absolutely nuts with every single lethal item I had saved up though the whole campaign.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:40 UTC+1 No.34393455 Report

>>34393210
Well, what's the head count of the Dunwall city watch?

I didn't go around counting points on where the line between low and high chaos goes. By the end, after taking out the regent, I just went full Man on Fire and fought my way through anything in my path. Didn't even go for my gear, just worked with what I picked up from the field, so no sleeping darts for the last leg of the game.

For all the bitching the game gives you for killing people, it sure doesn't give you many tools to not kill. You get sleeping darts and strangulation. Yay! Even Thief doesn't give you this much grief over killing guards, and that's a game about stealing, not murdering nobility.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:44 UTC+1 No.34393507 Report

>>34392834
>Felt like Thief mixed with Bioshock
But that's one of the reasons I liked it.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:45 UTC+1 No.34393525 Report

>>34393181
I totally get what you're saying, but keep in mind the guards are mostly just normal guys who patrol because it's what they're paid to do. Not just in coin, but in elixir too, which is all that's keeping them from dying and turning into rotten not-zombies.

And yeah, the fact that killing someone who'd kill you given the chance without hesitation gets you a bad ending is kinda bullshit. But then again, you're a god-damned magic-ninja-assassin-swordsman, with all the gear and powers you could possibly want to avoid being seen or avoid a fight if you get caught. I think the idea is that you had all that shit, but still decided it was easier to just kill everything in your way because it was easier.

Still bullshit though.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:45 UTC+1 No.34393532 Report

>>34393455
The DLC- The Knife of Dunwall and The Brigmore Witches, where you play as Daud during the events of the main game, gives more items.

Chokedust Grenades, Electrozap and Stun mines, you get the strong arms (Super fast choking) bone charm way earlier.

Also they replace the incendiary bolt with Daud's special explosive bolt. Which is just fantastic.

Also, the DLC's story is really well planned out and runs alongside the main storyline like it was always meant to be there. It probably was.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:47 UTC+1 No.34393560 Report

>>34393532
Also, one of the most horrifying quotes about weepers:

>"Do you think they are just asking for help when they grab on to you?"
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:49 UTC+1 No.34393623 Report
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>>34393560No, because...
>>34393560

No, because they keep FUCKING HITTING ME.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:51 UTC+1 No.34393660 Report
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>>34393560Chances are...
>>34393560
Chances are very good.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:52 UTC+1 No.34393666 Report

>>34393525
More bodies means more food for the rats, meaning more plague.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:54 UTC+1 No.34393717 Report
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Stat me, /tg/
Stat me, /tg/
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:58 UTC+1 No.34393814 Report

>>34392834
>mustard rice

It was the setting that got me. It really interested me knowing what got changed. It was originally to be set during medieval Japan, then 1666 London/Edinburgh, then they just went a fictional universe, which I'm glad for.
There's lots of stuff to be explored, I hope they make that Darkness of Tyvia sequel. The story was fine, it did it's job but wasn't spectacular. It's the lore that gets me - the whales, the Outsider's origin, Granny Motherfucking Rags, magic, ancient mathematics, the Abbey not actually worshiping a god, just super paranoid about a Lovecraftian universe of horrible monsters and an ancient civilization under Dunwall.

>>34393623
Hitting you? Oh no. They're vomiting blood and shit and the flies are attacking you. Most weepers are asking for help, they're just too far gone to realize properly what they're doing, they went nuts from despair and desperation. Some of them do go violent. Use the Heart on individual weepers, you sometimes get backgrounds and stuff.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)20:59 UTC+1 No.34393815 Report

>>34393525
Its not bullshit, you are just psychos. I barely killed nobody.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:05 UTC+1 No.34393951 Report

>>34393717
Ogrepowered pls nerf
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:07 UTC+1 No.34393988 Report

>>34393717
+375 to everything forever in in swamp

-7 gorillion out of swamp
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:09 UTC+1 No.34394024 Report

>>34387597
4-hour Gameplay Span
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:11 UTC+1 No.34394053 Report
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>>34389129
>>34389129
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:15 UTC+1 No.34394149 Report

>>34393666
Don't forget, less guards to watch over the population.

But is Corvo really doing THAT much damage to throw the entire city into Chaos alone and getting labeled as worse as the usurpers themselves? I could have understood the city getting worse, but people acting like it's all my fault, like all the other forces at play had nothing to do with it, is absurd. Not to forget that Emily becomes a queen bitch and all your former allies a bunch of cunts.

I could have understood if killing all the targets and side quests (like the duel, etc.) would have changed their attitudes towards Corvo and began to be more ruthless themselves (maybe because they begin to realize what depths they themselves have sunk), but turning into the fuckers they are over a few guards is absurd.

They should have made 2 modifiers: Killing guards would worsen the plague and make missions more dangerous and make the ending less rosy, killing civilians and targets would change the attitudes of people. It's a civil war, shit happens, but wholesale slaughter if innocent civilians and purging high ranging enemies instead of dealing with them via other means should really put a dark spin on things.

Now no amount of people saved accounted for the fact that a few guards got stabbed or shot. Do the assassins and shit count into this? Because that'd be a riot if it did. Don't kill the professional killers, the city might get fucked up.


I really liked Mass Effect 3 in that nobody got all uppity regarding your decisions. It's war, there are not "good" choices. People are just glad shit gets done, not throw a hissy fit over details.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:17 UTC+1 No.34394176 Report

>>34387597
Poor man's Garrett.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:18 UTC+1 No.34394204 Report

>>34393815
>I killed less than you, therefore I have the moral high ground
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:20 UTC+1 No.34394233 Report

>>34393814
Eh, the Outsider felt like just a McGuffin, a talking head that pops up and shits on you from time to time. I just wanted to stab him too to shut him up.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:20 UTC+1 No.34394237 Report

>>34394176
Bu thief is shit.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:21 UTC+1 No.34394260 Report

>>34394176
This.

If you want sneaky fantasy steampunk shit, play old Thief games.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:22 UTC+1 No.34394277 Report

>>34394237
You're shit.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:26 UTC+1 No.34394363 Report

>>34394233
Have you read up about him? There's not much fluff about stuff, unless they expand in a second game or something, but he's essentially the Void hungering for representation, so it makes this form. He's gonna die, then when the universe gets sucked into the Void, new representation.

He's more Nyarlathotep than Satan, too, which I appreciated. He aint evil, he's just a thing. He gives you the power, only if he finds you 'interesting', but never makes you use it. And I think Granny Rags married him, or performed some occult ritual to 'marry' him.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:27 UTC+1 No.34394388 Report

>>34394176
Corvo was fine, but Daud was much more interesting in the DLC stories, since he wasn't designed as a blank slate. He was already a character.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:30 UTC+1 No.34394443 Report

>>34394233
I can definitely see why the overseers don't trust the Outsider, but I'd say the Outsider's more like a fucked-up all powerful troll than a macguffin. City falling to rats and plague? Here, have some magic powers. Save the city or destroy it, I don't actually give a fuck, I'm just bored and want to see what you'll do.

The fact he gives Corvo the empress's heart also shows just what a twisted sense of humor he has.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:43 UTC+1 No.34394734 Report

>>34394363
I though it was more like how Nuns marry themselves to God.
Granny only wanted the Outsider, and she kept herself so mixed up in the thread of fate her indulged her.
I was actually a little sad that You killing her didn't get more of a response from the outsider if for nothing more than she was his most loyal follower.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:45 UTC+1 No.34394790 Report

>>34394363
>>34394443
And how does that come across? He's just a talking head, speaking what ever the developers thought was cool and edgy.

>"H-here, you can have this heart. It's not like I care or anything, stupid Corvo."

How would have the story or world been any different without him? He played no real part, he might as well have not been there. Then you would have had a nice Thief game without all the magic bullshit. I got no vibes what so ever from him, other than the desire to punch him in his stupid "oh, look at me, I'm all edgy and mysterious, laud over me you sheep" arrogant face.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:49 UTC+1 No.34394874 Report

>>34394734
That actually makes sense. But that whole little ritual you had to do, with the woman and the man in the circle to get a rune...I suppose it's a symbolic marriage. Married to God, married to the Outsider, I can believe it. I like to think the marriage thing meant something, who knows what you're messing with. What if she was a tether for him, or her magic doings just provided a way for him to manifest.

Although, I, uh, never killed Granny Rags. I dunno, I just like her too much and Slackjaw's criminal scum.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:52 UTC+1 No.34394944 Report

>>34394790
Well if you read the in game books you'd see that he is an evil force to those that hunt whales.
It is even hinted he might be some sort of magic whale.
Anyway from this and the amount of whaling Dunwhal did it can be inferred he caused the plague, the flood, he directly made the Whalers a force, and the Witches that where taking down royalty.
He did it all for the whales anon, he is the aquaman we want, not the one we deserve.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:52 UTC+1 No.34394945 Report

>>34394790
Well, for one, the Empress would probably be alive. Outsider have Daud his powers, it was those powers that allowed Daud and his assassins to ability to become the terrors they did. Then there's Granny Rags perpetuating the plague, she's his biggest follower. Corvo likes you, because you're interesting. It's why he gives anyone powers.

Admittedly, yeah, his effect on the universe is subtle, but it's there.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)21:57 UTC+1 No.34395051 Report

>>34394790
You can learn a lot about him and the setting as a whole by reading the books.

Also, he's the manifestation of The Void, being a little edgy goes with the territory. You wouldn't expect a god of death to look and act like a shy anime-style high school girl, would you? Same for The Outsider, what else really could he be?

>"I-I hope granny-chan notices me today..."
>"Auu...why are you so mean, Overseer-san?"
>"C-cheer up Pierro-kun, Calista's just shy is all..."
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:02 UTC+1 No.34395146 Report

>>34394944
But is this hard evidence or just speculation. In the end, what does any of it matter? He's still just a talking head with little to no impact on the actual story. How does it all tie to the story of Corvo saving Emily and restoring the empire?

At no point do you tackle with that story, it's just something in the background. It's like playing a farming simulator to the backdrop of the Vietnam war. Sometimes Ho Chi Minh comes to shit on you when you pick up a bag of rice and that's it.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:04 UTC+1 No.34395208 Report
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???? ????
???? ????
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:04 UTC+1 No.34395211 Report

>>34395146
Dude, >>34394945
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:06 UTC+1 No.34395249 Report

>>34395208
slav/10
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:08 UTC+1 No.34395275 Report

>>34395146
It isn't suppose to be a big part of the story.
He is meant to be a small background figure that you see has had an effect on the world.
Caused the rise of Overseers, The Whalers, Plague, Granny, Witches.
He is the thing that makes you want to learn more.
I spent whole days just looking for any extra book about him.
Then he got more coverage in the dlc and I bet you even bigger part of the next game.
You hate him because he do his roll in the game to much and becomes and annoyingly mysterious figure.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:09 UTC+1 No.34395287 Report

>>34387597
Mary Sue/10
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:10 UTC+1 No.34395316 Report

>>34394944
burrows caused the plague, not the outsider. outsider just helped because he thought it was funny
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:14 UTC+1 No.34395390 Report

>>34395316
Granny perpetuates it, though. And she's the Outsider's right hand spook.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:15 UTC+1 No.34395403 Report

>>34394945
Except it was Hiram who planned the assassination to hide the fact he caused the plague, so it could have happened a million other ways, ending with the empress losing her life and Emily getting kidnapped to become a pawn in their political game. And Corvo could have managed his quest without any magical bullshit (lord knows he's not the only sneaky assassin out for justice) and Rags could have been just a crazy old lady spreading the plague for her own twisted reasons.

>>34395051
>"Waah, what we gonna do in the Void?" *blink* =3
>"My runes are moving on their own!"
>"Auh, so much whale oil came out."

>You wouldn't expect a god of death to look and act like a shy anime-style high school girl, would you?

I also wouldn't expect him to look and act like someone out of Twilight.

>what else really could he be?

Literally anything? If he's suppose to be Lovecraftian, people should realize Lovecraftian monsters do not warp in to have a chat with you every once in a while. They barely notice you. When shit happens, it's because one had gas or turns in its sleep. We're not their playthings, we're ants crawling in their yard and if they step on us or wipe us out while mowing the lawn, they won't even notice.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:15 UTC+1 No.34395422 Report

>>34395390
yeah thats what i mean. the other guy caused it, the outsider to took the ball and ran with it because it causes chaos and thats pretty much his whole deal.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:17 UTC+1 No.34395437 Report

>>34395403
nyarthotep was interested in humans. thats what the outsider is.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:17 UTC+1 No.34395455 Report

>>34393717
+5 layers
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:17 UTC+1 No.34395456 Report

>>34395403

>Hiram caused the plague

I thought it was the nameless boy that the Outsider gave power to that began the plague.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:17 UTC+1 No.34395460 Report

>>34387597
explained nothing/10
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:19 UTC+1 No.34395494 Report

>>34395287
I stat you faggot/10
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:20 UTC+1 No.34395518 Report

>>34395456
no he was just a homeless kid that put rats in the right places/
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:20 UTC+1 No.34395527 Report

stat me /tg/
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:20 UTC+1 No.34395530 Report

>>34395275
>You hate him because he do his roll in the game to much and becomes and annoyingly mysterious figure.

No, I hate him because he is not interesting nor mysterious. Not knowing is not the same as mysterious.

And I know the next game (if we're ever "blessed " with such) will be all about him. Because of course it is. It's basically the Assassin's Creed syndrome of making a nice game with some goofy "mysterious" (read: silly) sub-plot, and then the game just becomes all about the sub-plot and the game itself plays second fiddle. Because lords knows you can't just have a medieval assassination game without turning it into Dan Brownian opus of epic proportions.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:21 UTC+1 No.34395532 Report

>>34394204
yes that is kinda how morality works
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:21 UTC+1 No.34395537 Report

>>34394874
>Although, I, uh, never killed Granny Rags. I dunno, I just like her too much

Heh, so I'm not the only one who went Low Kills, nonlethal takedowns and then helped little old Granny with her soup
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:21 UTC+1 No.34395545 Report

>>34395403
Except that isn't how it happened, it was all assisted because of the Outsider's indirect background meddling. Hiram planned the assassination, but it was Daud's Outsider-powered ninjas who did it. Understand he isn't the villain, he just made it worse. The Outsider doesn't actually have anything to do with the story, bit the world. His being in the world just affected the story.

>>34395403
Ever read The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath? The entire story is one cosmic troll attempt by Nyarlathotep on Randolph Carter. Nyarlathotep deals with humans in Lovecraft all the time. Keziah Mason in Dreams in the Witch-House is another example. The Outsider is Nyarlathotep, not Cthulhu.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:22 UTC+1 No.34395560 Report

Outsider in the main story was completely superfluous element just there to introduce the kewl leet powerz the devs wanted to add to the game

Outsider in Knife of Dunwell was a natural extension of a story about superheroes duking it out
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:23 UTC+1 No.34395577 Report

>>34395537
I played through twice for both endings, but I always help out Granny. Always.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:24 UTC+1 No.34395589 Report

>>34395456
Hiram himself confessed to have started the plague to wipe out the poor plebs. And assassinated the empress so she wouldn't find out about it, once it got out of hand.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:24 UTC+1 No.34395602 Report

>>34395560

>completely superfluous

Not quite. See, he's a main instigating force for a LOT of stuff in the game. He's just subtle about it.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:24 UTC+1 No.34395605 Report

>>34395530
If the Outsider takes any precedence it's because his presence in the world actually affects shit. Not cause it. There's a difference.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:24 UTC+1 No.34395610 Report

>>34393660
Is this the best line I've seen on /tg/ today?
>Yes, I believe so.

Also, I love the guy in the Daud DLC who congratulates his commander for getting his own squad after what happened last night.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:25 UTC+1 No.34395642 Report

>>34395589
He got Daud and his Outsider-powered assassins to do the killing. Outsider, however subtly, affected the main story.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:33 UTC+1 No.34395793 Report

>>34395545
>but it was Daud's Outsider-powered ninjas who did it.

Because no emperor or empress in the history of the world has been assassinated without magical powers. It's not like the spymaster could have managed to sneak them in somehow, right?

>>34395602
It's not subtle if you have to shoot the shit in every turn with Corbo. Subtle would be one where his influence is not even noticed and you're not even sure what's going on. Not have a talking head instruct you into using your powers and pop in for a chat every once in a while. He's anything but subtle.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:36 UTC+1 No.34395840 Report

>>34395793
every turn? you only talk to him like 4 times.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:39 UTC+1 No.34395884 Report

>>34395793
also, subtle in that he is doing shit in the world without you noticing, like spreading the plague more and driving people crazy with rats.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)22:39 UTC+1 No.34395909 Report

>>34395793
Could have, but he got Daud to take them out then and there. He got someone in league with the Outsider. Did the Outsider make it so Burrows hired Daud or was it coincidence? Was it coincidence Corvo came home early or not? You can say 'well you didn't need magic' but they did use magic. That's what happened, and it probably means something.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)23:19 UTC+1 No.34396694 Report

>>34395545
>His being in the world just affected the story.

So he's just a Deus Ex Machina?
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)23:28 UTC+1 No.34396835 Report

>>34389129
>>34394053
That looks like... what was her name? That one defected divine knight that joined the main character's party in Final Fantasy Tactics?

Google says Meliadoul Tengille.

She gets special attacks that let her use special sword arts that deal massive damage from range and destroy equipment in the process; Shellbust Stab(renamed to Crush Armor), Blastar Punch(renamed to Crush Helm), Hellcry Punch(renamed to Crush Weapon), and Icewolf Bite(renamed to Crush Accessory).
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)23:33 UTC+1 No.34396929 Report

>>34396694
No? I don't know how you came to that conclusion. He's an event.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)23:43 UTC+1 No.34397168 Report

This is just kinda my own headcanon, but I assumed that the Outsider's body was one he stole from either someone who tried to make a faustian deal and got fucked over, a body he stole from someone who got lost in the void, or maybe the form of one of the first humans he saw or something. He looks too much like a regular dude for that to be his natural form imo.
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Anonymous 08/25/14(Mon)23:57 UTC+1 No.34397430 Report

>>34396929
Yeah, an event that appears in the story to suddenly make shit happen or solve a problem without much fanfare or explanation.

Outsider is basically the "it's magic, don't have to explain shit" of the game.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:01 UTC+1 No.34397493 Report

>>34397430
I can tell you don't like the game, so nothing anyone says can change your mind, but you're wrong. The Outsider never once acts like a Deus Ex Machina, fixes a problem or changes anything during the story. I'm not convinced you've played the game, otherwise you'd know otherwise. He gives you powers at the very beginning because you're interesting. If you use them to kill people or not is up to you.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:09 UTC+1 No.34397626 Report

>>34397493
>somebody doesn't like what I like
>must be a troll who doesn't know shit

Imagine that.

>never changes anything during the story

Hard to believe how much people talked about how he's the catalyst for everything. It's not like he influences people, gives you magic because of reasons, etc. Totally not affect anything out of the blue.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:12 UTC+1 No.34397678 Report

>>34397626
well someone sure is defensive.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:15 UTC+1 No.34397756 Report

>>34397626
You seem to be pained.

Just agree to disagree and move on mate. You save more face that way.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:20 UTC+1 No.34397817 Report

>>34397626
Please show me the point at which I called you a troll. Quote it for me. I'm simply not convinced you've played the game, you sound like someone with an opinion garnered from what other people have said.

And here's the thing, friend, he's not the catalyst for anything. The Outsider is the spanner in the works, not the works themselves. He gives Daud and Corvo powers because he wants to know how humans will act out this story with a fantastic element. He didn't give them X so he could achieve Y. He never instructs you how or why you should use your power, you choose to do everything yourself, he has no influence over you. You NEVER have to use any of the powers. You shoot and swordfight and sneak and strangle and never once Blink or stop time.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:30 UTC+1 No.34398024 Report

>>34397817
I just finished the game not two days ago and from the very start it felt a very simple and rushed story. Not five minutes pass when you're forced to feel sorry for some lady, her daughter and get accused of murder based on zero evidence, because of reasons. Then we skip 6 months ahead and bam, now it's time to give a shit.

Then it's off to explore a nice world, mind you, but your options are pretty much Saints McJesus or Knives McStabbey. And soon enough the steampunk combine invades. And you get magic, because of course you do. Can't hope people stick with it if there isn't magic or hot alien ladies involved.

It's Thief for the Bioshock generation.

>not the catalyst
>give people magic and watch shit go down
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)00:42 UTC+1 No.34398293 Report

>>34398024
You know what? I agree with you. It is a simple and rushed story. Very much so. The game could have been much longer, I wish it was. Yeah, it's also black and white, not much middle ground. But way back in the thread I mentioned what really got me was the world. I love the setting and the little bits of lore we have. The gameplay is fine, it's fun, but I like the world the most.

But the Outsider isn't the catalyst for anything. Hiram Burrows brought the plague from Pandyssia to kill off the poor, but it got waaay out of hand and he didn't know how to control it. Empress Jessamine wouldn't do anything, so Burrows hires Daud and the Whalers. It just so happens that ages back the Outsider came to Daud and gave him magic. And Corvo just happens to be there, and due to Corvo's position with the late Empress and seeing as Corvo is getting his revenge regardless, the Outsider spices it up. Could the Outsider have know this was all going to pass way back when he gave Daud powers? Who knows.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)01:31 UTC+1 No.34399329 Report

>>34396835
You're right, it is her. I am the one that posted the image by the way.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)01:36 UTC+1 No.34399426 Report

>>34398293
>catalyst
>an agent that provokes or speeds significant change or action

Doesn't say anything about working towards a specific goal. He just hands out matches to the kids playing at the gasoline and fireworks warehouse.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)01:47 UTC+1 No.34399657 Report

>>34395610
>Also, I love the guy in the Daud DLC who congratulates his commander for getting his own squad after what happened last night.
Fucking finally.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)02:32 UTC+1 No.34400490 Report

>>34398024
The fact that you think anyone "invades" proves that you either didn't play the game or didn't pay any attention at all. Your continual use of the word "steampunk" is also strange.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)02:39 UTC+1 No.34400617 Report

>>34400490
Do me a favor, go play Half-Life 2. Just a little bit. Look at the aesthetics of the Combine architecture. Look at how they wall of the city and bar old buildings. Look at how they place security checkpoints and have walkers patrolling the area. Look at the overwatch cars and look at the train cars in Dishonored.

Just do that for me, then come bitching to me about the use of the world "invade".


Also, have you looked at steampunk shit lately? Victorian aesthetics, pseudo-historical technology, magic and SCIENCE!, etc.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)02:55 UTC+1 No.34400933 Report

Stat us, /tg/
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:00 UTC+1 No.34401043 Report

>>34399329
Thought so. Sadly, I don't know GURPS.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:12 UTC+1 No.34401318 Report

>>34392834
>Also, fuck you, game, for blaming me for everything.

I've never understood this, you can kill like 20% of a level without getting high chaos; my first playthrough I never shied away from killing anyone in my way and I still got low chaos. I don't even recall the game outright saying you're a dick, it just doesn't ignore you coming back covered in blood, newspapers counting the dozens of guards you butchered, the leaders you're murdering, or the dead bodies you leave everywhere in the midst of a plague.

When I did a high chaos playthrough, I pretty much had to try and kill people.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:39 UTC+1 No.34401908 Report

>>34398024
>not playing Saint McStabby
Isn't that roleplaying 101?
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:43 UTC+1 No.34402001 Report

>>34401318
I think the moment I secured the bad end was when I killed the two brothers by freezing time and throwing a bunch of grenades in the room
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:44 UTC+1 No.34402028 Report

>>34402001
that will do it. i got mine when i summoned rat plagues all over lady boyles party.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:47 UTC+1 No.34402094 Report

>>34402001
I just hope you yelled USELESS repeatedly as you did.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:52 UTC+1 No.34402233 Report

>>34402094
Nah, but I believe I killed Daud like that, but with crossbow bolts instead.

>dat rapid fire crossbow
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:56 UTC+1 No.34402322 Report

>>34402001
I feel like chaos is more dependent on whether or not you sneaked around or raised alarms rather than the amount of people you shanked.

That might be something fun to test for a next playtrough. Either run around in plain sight for the entire game without killing anyone or stab everything without ever getting spotted once.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)03:57 UTC+1 No.34402369 Report

>>34402322
I hate to ruin your fun, but Chaos is purely based on how many people are killed. Low/no deaths = Low Chaos.
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Anonymous 08/26/14(Tue)04:08 UTC+1 No.34402621 Report

>>34402369
Well. That sucks.
Guess I'm still trying to find the reasoning for a game to give you this many fucking killing toys you're never going to use as well as upgrades for them and then tells you that you shouldn't kill people or else you get a bad ending.
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