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Anonymous 08/16/14(Sat)23:56 UTC+1 No.888043 Report

Hello dear /trv/ friends,

How do I determine which side of the plane is best for the view upon landing? Google didn't give me fine results.

Just in case anyone has experience here, I'm coming from germany and landing at AGP in the evening.

Thanks
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)00:18 UTC+1 No.888051 Report

>>888043
I don't know the answer, all I have to contribute is that if you are going to look out the window, don't be that guy who presses his face right up against the glass so the people next to him can't see.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)00:33 UTC+1 No.888056 Report

>>888043
Look at the airport you're flying into and determine what is the main service runway. Then you need to determine which way the wind will most likely be blowing, this will indicate which way the plane will approach the runway as planes always land into the wind. Then on the approach path determine what is in the area that you can see. Views like farmland, forests, suburbs don't really interest me all too much, ports, industry, cities do.

Also look up approach videos to the airport, a lot of people film them these days just cus. And look at the airport in flightradar24 and you can see the approach path the planes take to the airport.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)02:35 UTC+1 No.888084 Report

>>888051
I'm guilty.

>>888056
Thanks for the advice, will try to figure it out!
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)02:41 UTC+1 No.888087 Report

>>888056
But be aware that in many places, the wind is not really consistent from day to day. In those places, it's a crap shoot.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)09:33 UTC+1 No.888170 Report

>>888087
I'd just go with the higher probability. Also Malaga seems to have pretty consistent weather conditions with the land being warmer than the sea at day and colder at night and that determining the wind directions.

Turns out AGP has only two parallel runways and the majority of landings take place facing the sea. Takeoffs go into the same direction and some planes going northeast make a 450° turn (Airplane experts: Why do they do that? Extra service to give us a nice view?)

I'll keep an eye on flightradar.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)10:28 UTC+1 No.888190 Report

>>888170
I meant 270° turns, pic related.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)13:17 UTC+1 No.888229 Report

>>888170
>Why do they do that?
To gain altitude for noise abatement. Also, it looks like there may be a terrain issue at that airport from the pic you posted (high hill just past the runway on the side that they want to turn to). More altitude = more options in case of a problem.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)13:29 UTC+1 No.888236 Report

>>888056
This.

At a supermajor airport (not this one), you'd have so many options for approach to adjust for winds, you'd be hard pressed to figure it out, but this is going to be standard if you listen to this guy.

When I'm landing at Reagan National, for instance, left side of the plane is the amazing view of the coast and monuments, but the right side gets a banking view if they are lucky for a moment. No choice there. But, when I land in Miami, NY...anything goes...you might fly over swamps and nothing or you might get a coastal view, depends on control tower. Going to Anchorage, it's right side, with views the entire last hour of flight. Grand Cayman gives you views of Cuba. So, I'd say consider your side of the plane for a view.

I hate coach window seats lately as seats get smaller and smaller, they butt right up against the side of the plane, and cause you to lean away from the fuselage when your shoulders don't fit, and screw up your spine for a few days of pain. The aisle is where it's at, and you can always peek out either side's window. I like to avoid a morning or afternoon sunny side of the plane, so I stay cool if some joker doesn't shut his shade.

Stop a pilot in the airport coming out of your jetway, and ask which side you should sit on for good window viewing, he might know the route. And, don't be afraid to ask the gate agent the same question and move your seat. Trick is to get a friendly one who isn't busy in the middle of some procedure.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)14:15 UTC+1 No.888247 Report

>wind forecast
http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/malaga
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)15:04 UTC+1 No.888261 Report

If I had a picture of.a sad face on this phone, I'd post it to illustrate my face when I have heard the pilot announce "On the side of the plane where you are NOT sitting, there is a glorious view of Grand Canyon today" 5 times now.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)16:41 UTC+1 No.888299 Report

Pilot here.

I would recommend going to flightaware.com and pulling up the flight number and looking historically at where it has flown. Day to day flight numbers don't change (generally) so FRA-AGP (I'm just assuming you're on LH, OP) will always be LH 1013 (or whatever number it is) for the 5 PM flight (or whatever time it is)

By looking at the last few days of its flight history, you can get a good general idea of what stuff you want to see (e.g. if you're passing south of Paris, and you want to see Paris, sit on the right). In general, the winds in that part of the world are pretty consistent (in day to day sense, there are large seasonal shifts) so looking at the last week of flight paths should give you a solid indication of where you should sit.

Good luck, we're all counting on you.
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)18:47 UTC+1 No.888347 Report

>>888229
Makes sense, thanks!

>>888261
I feel ya, though I've generally been very lucky so far :)

>>888247
>>888236
>>888299
Thanks! I'l confirm it a couple days before my flight but I think I figured it out. For the landing, the side doesn't matter much and for the takeoff, the left side is closer to the coast during that 270° turn. Though I'm worrying that the altitude will be too high once in the purple region (pic related). Red or purple?

>>888299
>Good luck, we're all counting on you.
Ha, thanks :)

/trv/ is a friendly board
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Anonymous 08/17/14(Sun)23:12 UTC+1 No.888427 Report

>>888347
Also keep in mind that the whole plane rolls (tilts) in the direction of the turn, so if you're sitting on the outside-of-the-turn side, you'll have a great view of the sky and not much else.
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Anonymous 08/18/14(Mon)11:25 UTC+1 No.888656 Report

>>888427
Thanks for the reminder, in that case it's red=right. Then I'm fucked, as many planes do pic related with a superior left side. Also I have no idea what determines if the plane does the 270° turn or a simple left turn.
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