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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)05:11 UTC+1 No.880072 Report

So I'm learning to sail this summer. I actually have a full day booked tomorrow getting lessons on the absolute basics. (inb4 just work on a boat- I am incompetent and want to know bare bones first)

From here, what is the path to freedom upon the closed seas? I don't wanna cross the atlantic or anything, but I'd love to be at a level to hop around the Phillipines or Indian Ocean.

What do I need to do once I know very basically how to sail?
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)05:26 UTC+1 No.880075 Report

>>880072
>What do I need to do once I know very basically how to sail?

Take more lessons
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)07:46 UTC+1 No.880104 Report

>>880072
>From here, what is the path to freedom upon the closed seas? I don't wanna cross the atlantic or anything, but I'd love to be at a level to hop around the Phillipines or Indian Ocean.

TOP
FUCKING
LEL

As someone who's been sailing for 10 years this is hilarious. Yeah buddy, you'll be going straight from sailing lasers and other dinghies to cruising a 30 footer around the Philippine isles. It works like that.

Say hi to Captain Philips for me when you go past Horn of Africa on your subsequent voyage around the world.
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)08:24 UTC+1 No.880118 Report

>>880104
To be fair he didn't imply he wanted to cruise 30 footers.
It just seems that OP doesn't realize the distance and difficulty of this kind of shit.
Not that I know any better, mind you.
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)09:34 UTC+1 No.880131 Report

>>880104
If you read his actual post you might notice that he doesn't imply that he wants to go directly to that. He asks specifically about what he needs to do to GET to that level.

The answer of course is practise. The lessons will teach you the bare bones as you put it, and then you can start working on a boat - or even buy a cheap sailboat and start practising yourself. Basic sailing isn't rocket science, so once you know the "bare bones" you can learn the rest as you go. CAN, I say, not should. Learning from more experienced people is always the sensible choice, but a lot of people bypass it.
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)11:23 UTC+1 No.880160 Report

It depends where you are, OP. In the southern coast of England, for example, there's tons of sailing going on and if you just hang out at the bar one day and ask around, people will surely take you onboard for a short daytrip. Then you make friends and get invited more and more regularly. Same goes for all of coastal France, though the french in my experience can be a bit harder to approach. If you're in spain, look for british boats.
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)15:40 UTC+1 No.880230 Report

>>880072
> I don't wanna cross the atlantic or anything, but I'd love to be at a level to hop around the Phillipines or Indian Ocean.

Crossing the Atlantic would be easier than dealing with the Pacific, which is bigger and rougher. Never sailed in the Indian, so have no opinion on that.

After taking your lessons, practice sailing. At some point, you want to get your hands on a bigger boat. One route to this is to do a hare-back charter somewhere. I did this in the USVI back in the day -- you rent a boar, they show you how shit works in a basic way, and off you go. Navigation is easy there, you can normally see where you are going, and with shit like GPS now it should be a no-brainer. If you think you'll need a bit more instruction on what's what on a bigger boat, you can get a captain for the first cruise, or first part of it.

That gets you used to dealing with larger boats in open ocean -- next up might be something like a run from Florida out to the Bahamas. (Where do you live, OP? That might impact whether thee specific locations make sense to you...)

Learn how to read a chart, read up on open-ocean techniques, get some experience as outlined above.

(Some folks have gone the route of getting hired as crew to learn the ropes -- I have no opinion on that, didn't do it that way.)

When you get to the Buying A Boat stage, you'll have some feel of how big a boat you want to handle single-handedly. For me, around 35 feet is ideal, but that will vary. For open-ocean sailing, look at a canoe stern (keeps following seas from beating the Hell out of you) and go for a tougher boat rather than a sleeker/faster one.

Goof luck to you.
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)15:44 UTC+1 No.880232 Report

>>880230
Damn small keyboard and bad eyes.

"hare-back charter" should be "bare back charter"

"rent a boar" should be "rent a boat"

"thee specific locations" should be "these specific locations"

The intended meaning of "goof luck to you" Leave as an exercise for the student.
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Anonymous 07/29/14(Tue)15:53 UTC+1 No.880236 Report

Dinghy fag here, been sailing for 11 years.

All I've ever done with dinghies is coach for the last 6 years. It's seasonal work and the pay is alright, bit in the last couple years I've moved onto racing big boats, and started my own club up.

It's a slow route man, you'd be better to make money somewhere else, then buy a boat with the skills under your belt and just sail around.

OR grab your RYA and your captains ticket and become a charter captain and ferry rich people around.
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Anonymous 07/30/14(Wed)00:59 UTC+1 No.880563 Report

>>880230
>>880232
thanks for this advice- seems quite sound. Just work my way up until I'm comfortable at every level. I'm planning on going "viking style" unless I have a great reason not to. Never let the land out of sight for more than a few hours.

>>880104
>>880118
you know, people always react this way on 4chan but in this case at least I know it's overblown. People don't push themselves, and that's why they don't do anything interesting while sailing. Not because of actual limitations.
http://www.microcruising.com/famoussmallboats.htm

>>880236
no intention of making money lol, more likely throwing it away and fast.
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Anonymous 07/30/14(Wed)01:39 UTC+1 No.880580 Report

>>880563
>People don't push themselves, and that's why they don't do anything interesting while sailing. Not because of actual limitations.

People who push themselves without knowing what the fuck they're doing end up dead when sailing.

How do you get to that level? Keep sailing and talk to others in the sailing community. When you're there, you'll know it.
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Anonymous 07/30/14(Wed)02:05 UTC+1 No.880594 Report

>>880592
Ok, here is how you sail around the world:

Port = left
Starboard = right
Aft = forward
Stern = backward

Irons = into wind
Close hauled = almost into wind
Close reach = across/into wind
Beam reach = across wind
Broad reach = across/away from wind
Running = away from wind

The less manoeuvrable the craft, generally the more right-of-way it gets

Hit waves diagonally

Don't capsize

Don't drown

GOOD LUCK OP, YOU'RE READY!
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Anonymous 07/30/14(Wed)02:06 UTC+1 No.880596 Report

>>880594
Awe, he deleted his post ;_;
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Anonymous 07/31/14(Thu)23:57 UTC+1 No.881433 Report

>>880232
>Indian ocean

enjoy your pirates.
or getting shot at for suspected piratery
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Anonymous 08/01/14(Fri)00:00 UTC+1 No.881435 Report

>>880594

if I might add, don't forget to bring a barfing / water bailing bucket.
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Anonymous 08/01/14(Fri)00:28 UTC+1 No.881449 Report

>>881433
I don't think anybody is going to suspect a private sailing vessel for a pirate boat.
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