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Dueling Network General Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:33 UTC+1 No.71301538 Report

Dueling Network General #1270
Last Thread: >>71247335

http://www.duelingnetwork.com/
http://www.ygopro.co/Download.aspx
http://www.yugiohrpgonline.com/
https://www.duelarena.konami.com/

The above games are free, so no need to worry about paying for cards you need. The above links are simulators, not games, so you need to do everything yourself.

Beginner's Guide, containing a link to the Official Rulebook (Outdated)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsJwn4b6xAWNdDg4X3hLbXlhc3loVlRYWVhBQnZ4dmc#gid=0

Premade Decks for beginners (Outdated)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsJwn4b6xAWNdDBrY21aWlROMk8yekduNVBxaHQtanc#gid=1

BEFORE YOU ASK FOR ADVICE FOR YOUR DECK DO THE FOLLOWING:
? Try and keep your deck as close to 40 cards as possible. This increases your chances of drawing the cards you need.
? Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event. If you're unsure on the variant you are using, check multiple events for the deck you want.
? Most Yu-Gi-Oh Games have an option between Singles (Self explanitory, a single Game) and Matches (Best of 3). It is recommended that you play Matches, as Singles does not teach you how to use your Side Deck.
? After you've playtested your Deck and feel confident about your card choices, post your Deck here. Try suggestions before you trash them, even if someone recommends a weird tech choice. You don't know everything.
? Ignore shitposters/HANDS/DRAGONS. They contribute nothing and are only trying to derail the thread. If they use a tripcode, hide them. If not, just report them.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301587 Report

If you can find Summoner's Art for cheap, pick them up. They'll likely rise on because of the Normal Pendulums. It helps that there was little to no good rares in Tactical Evolution.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301605 Report

Scraps are 2 gud
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301606 Report

Dead game
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301607 Report

>Dueling Network
LOL
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301618 Report

LIST WHEN

WHAT TO GET
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301623 Report

THIS HAND OF MINE!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:34 UTC+1 No.71301627 Report

>? Ignore shitposters/HANDS/DRAGONS. They contribute nothing and are only trying to derail the thread. If they use a tripcode, hide them. If not, just report them.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:36 UTC+1 No.71301756 Report

Here for Alius set 5.

Kouga could've been a bit better but whatever
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:37 UTC+1 No.71301851 Report

Are scraps top tier now?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:39 UTC+1 No.71301985 Report

ME
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:40 UTC+1 No.71302030 Report

>>71301623
Is fisting Bonbun's ass,
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:41 UTC+1 No.71302112 Report

TIE!!!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:41 UTC+1 No.71302115 Report

>Before we go further into the actual discussion of the mechanic, I need to talk about why I'm very much against using the phrase “missing the timing.” Don't get me wrong, I used to use the phrase myself when judging. Heck, I'll even still use it when talking to other judges who know the concept behind the phrase. But when the phrase is used, it's meant to be a shortcut for the mechanic of, “you can't activate an optional effect that activates when something happens if that something isn't the last thing to happen.” The problem becomes apparent when you try to look for official resources to back this up, and find none. That's right: the rulebook has nothing about this mechanic. It's not in Rulebook 8.0 in any way, shape or form, nor is it in the Advanced Rules section of the official site.
What the hell, Konami?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:42 UTC+1 No.71302149 Report

>>71301985
Shut the FUCK up.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:42 UTC+1 No.71302171 Report

>mid game against shitWings
>Manages to Big Eye my Scrap Dragon because apparently it's VayuTurbo
>I top deck Mind Control

I mean I really didn't need it because I had a Chimera play into another Scrap Dragon but holy shit that was amazing.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:42 UTC+1 No.71302186 Report

Hey guys what are some good Xyz and Synchros for a Scrap deck? I Have the dragons, diamond dire wolf,naturai beast and the dragon thing..scrap archfiend...and thats it ;_;
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:42 UTC+1 No.71302196 Report

>>71302115
Isn't there a missing the timing message in the video games?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:43 UTC+1 No.71302248 Report

>>71302115
>individual card rulings have to be found through a third-party website
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:44 UTC+1 No.71302295 Report

>>71302196
I remember a "you missed your chance!" or something like that in the latest DS one.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:44 UTC+1 No.71302321 Report

What if Geargia Hands.
What if.
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Jmex 06/20/14(Fri)05:44 UTC+1 No.71302326 Report

>>71301623
I really hate you
fuck this
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:45 UTC+1 No.71302424 Report

>>71302115
but then people could confuse "If... you can" effects to be optional and miss timing
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)05:46 UTC+1 No.71302476 Report

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-ou-132883000

Sorry hklives, but my nets kinda bad atm I guess thats why.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:48 UTC+1 No.71302640 Report

>>71302321
everyone runs hands in geargia now anyways.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:50 UTC+1 No.71302771 Report

>>71302640
Oh
I thought i had found sekrit meta ;(
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:52 UTC+1 No.71302872 Report

>>71302476
>tfw just got outskilled by a last ditch blast burn
Orange Barney is still stronk.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:55 UTC+1 No.71303105 Report

Are they really not putting up the new list until mid July?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:56 UTC+1 No.71303175 Report

>>71303105
We're supposed to find out what's on the list today.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:57 UTC+1 No.71303227 Report

>>71303175
How do you know?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:57 UTC+1 No.71303263 Report

>>71303227
His dad works at Konami.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:58 UTC+1 No.71303306 Report

>>71302115
>"you can't activate an optional effect that activates when something happens if that something isn't the last thing to happen.”

So if my opponent special summons Moralltach during my turn, and I chain something to the special summon, does that mean Moralltach can't use his destruction effect, since him being special summoned wasn't the last thing to happen?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:58 UTC+1 No.71303323 Report

>>71303227
my dad works for konami
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)05:59 UTC+1 No.71303359 Report

>>71303227
I'm his dad and I work for Konami
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:00 UTC+1 No.71303424 Report

>>71303359
Dad I told you not to embarrass me in front of /dng/
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:00 UTC+1 No.71303460 Report

>>71303424
Don't make me tell your mother you're on here again, you little shit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:01 UTC+1 No.71303509 Report

http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/

LISTS UP, SCRUBS.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:01 UTC+1 No.71303524 Report

>>71303306
Moraltach is sent to grave, special summon effect triggers, starting a new chain, once that chain resolves (Moraltech ss is last thing), then the destruction effect triggers, so idk of any card that could make it miss timing. Maybe a continour spell/trap that triggers when something is sent to opponents grave?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:02 UTC+1 No.71303574 Report

>>71303509
>Chaos emperor dragon
>Limited
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:02 UTC+1 No.71303579 Report

>>71303509
> COACH SOLDIER WOLFBARK
>LIMITED
Firefags BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:02 UTC+1 No.71303584 Report

>>71303509
You're going to do this all day, aren't you?

Can't wait for Blu to greentext it and fuck up again like he did last time.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:03 UTC+1 No.71303619 Report

>>71303509

>CED is limited

Welcome back 2004!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:04 UTC+1 No.71303684 Report

>>71303509
>morphing jar #2
>forbidden
for what purpose
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:04 UTC+1 No.71303719 Report

>>71303684
Empty Jar is a faggot deck.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:05 UTC+1 No.71303780 Report

>>71303684
>>71303719
Jackpot 7
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:06 UTC+1 No.71303825 Report

>>71303780
Also a faggot deck.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:08 UTC+1 No.71303949 Report

>>71303574
>>71303619
No fucking way
*checks list*
>mfw I have no reaction image that can accurately describe how hype I am
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:09 UTC+1 No.71304004 Report

>>71303949
>*checks list*
le ebin
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:11 UTC+1 No.71304202 Report

>>71303227
Something about Shueisha making KoA wait until they release OCG list in V-Jump. I can't remember the exact details. The talk happened several threads ago.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:12 UTC+1 No.71304246 Report

>>71304202
>Something about Shueisha making KoA wait until they release OCG list in V-Jump

But they already released it in OCG.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:12 UTC+1 No.71304254 Report

>>71303949
*facepaw*
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:13 UTC+1 No.71304310 Report

>>71304246
That was leaked

It releases officially on the 20th or so
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:14 UTC+1 No.71304402 Report

>>71304310
>It's now the 20th
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:16 UTC+1 No.71304486 Report

>>71304310
>the 20th

Which is today.

So I'm right, it IS released in the OCG.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:18 UTC+1 No.71304604 Report

>>71304402
>>71304486
So yeah, expect to see it sometime today.

Likely not 12 AM on the dot. Whenever they want to anywhere in the realm of today
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:18 UTC+1 No.71304606 Report

>>71304486
>>71304402
We have to wait to the early morning.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:18 UTC+1 No.71304635 Report

>>71304202
I don't think that applies anymore after the split
The list was updated on the 19th last time
And the point of that agreement was that Shueisha wanted to be the first to publish the list because of $$$
But the TCG list isn't published in any of their magazines so that should be a moot point now
And when we still had the same list it was never updated before the 21st
Also it could very well be that they won't update it until July
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:24 UTC+1 No.71305016 Report

>Banlists the day before locals

Literally the worst
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:25 UTC+1 No.71305103 Report

>>71305016
>Not getting ready to jew hard
scrub
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:26 UTC+1 No.71305134 Report

>>71305016
Get their early and pick off the noobs before anyone can tell them
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:28 UTC+1 No.71305290 Report

>>71303509
>Pot of Greed limited
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:30 UTC+1 No.71305396 Report

>>71305016
>mfw I'm stuck closing every week my locals has their tournament
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:31 UTC+1 No.71305495 Report

How's this for a sylv build? Anything to improve on here..? What should I add/remove from this build?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:32 UTC+1 No.71305574 Report

>>71305495
VOMIT
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:33 UTC+1 No.71305652 Report

>>71305495
>42 cards
>Raigeki breaks
>D R A G O N S just cause
>Witch of the black roses or whatever she's called
>separating the Side and Extra
You probably shouldn't play sylvans
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:34 UTC+1 No.71305674 Report

>>71305495
there are several dozen things wrong with this build
my best advice is to go netdeck one of the two ARG builds at least
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Mr.Vet Sr. 06/20/14(Fri)06:38 UTC+1 No.71305976 Report

>>71305495
stahp
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:44 UTC+1 No.71306358 Report

Bad news everyone
Percy is shit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:44 UTC+1 No.71306376 Report

>Sableye's mega form has Magic Bounce

Unrelated: YGOPro upload those Quill things so I can see what they do.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:45 UTC+1 No.71306420 Report

>>71302196
There is actually, I don't know if it says in so many words but there's a message for when stuff misses timing.
>>71302771
Hands in pretty much anything by this point is not sekrit anything besides Chain Burn and I just spoiled the secret
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:45 UTC+1 No.71306425 Report

Waifu.

What do you expect to get hit, /dng/? Hands and Geargia?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:45 UTC+1 No.71306473 Report

>>71306358
And then I read the last sentence.
God damn I'm a retard.

Also holy shit that image's bigger than I thought
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:46 UTC+1 No.71306485 Report

>>71306425
shitfu
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:46 UTC+1 No.71306505 Report

>>71306358
>you cannot activate any spellcards the turn you activate this card, except "Spellbook" Spell Cards
>you activated PoD
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:46 UTC+1 No.71306523 Report

Once Duelist Alliance drops in August or whenever, what deck to you think will take the most tops out of tellar-seraphs and shadolls? Do you guys think tellarknights will still be T1 even without cock master?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:47 UTC+1 No.71306561 Report

>>71306358
No anon it is YOU!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:47 UTC+1 No.71306570 Report

Alright, my friend sent me the list this morning and I just finished making all my moves, so here are the changes:

Forbidden
None

Limited
Artifact Moralltach
Dark Strike Fighter
Elemental Hero Stratos
Geargiagear

Semi-Limited:
Bujingi Crane
Debris Dragon
Madolche Hootcake
Soul Charge
Soul Drain
Traptrix Myrmeleo

Unlimited
Dimensional Fissure
Summoner Monk
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:47 UTC+1 No.71306585 Report

>>71306358
actually, anon, you a shit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:48 UTC+1 No.71306636 Report

>>71306570
>unlimited dimensional fissure
>dark strike fighter unlimited before the errata change in TCG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA good one fag.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:48 UTC+1 No.71306643 Report

>>71306505
>>71306561
Yep. Took a whole five seconds after I posted it to try and keep reading the card.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:49 UTC+1 No.71306669 Report

>>71306425
people already play 2/2 hands just fine, so unless they limit them or outright forbid them, then that's just gonna be dumb

I could see them hitting either theosophy or moralltach, but not both.

maybe Myrmelo?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:49 UTC+1 No.71306692 Report

the list isnt up
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:49 UTC+1 No.71306715 Report

>>71306473
>>71306358
Jesus fuck you're a retard. Saved so i can shame you, dirty DN faggot.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:49 UTC+1 No.71306718 Report

>>71306636
Officially Dark Strike Fighter has already received its errata in the TCG.
They just haven't reprinted it with the new effect yet.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:50 UTC+1 No.71306774 Report

>>71306570
>Semi-Limited:
>Bujingi Crane
Oh no

Now they only have 6 honests and 5 of them are still searchable
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)06:51 UTC+1 No.71306815 Report

>>71306523
Shaddolls, and HAT(if hands don't get hit) will be tier 1. Stellas need the Seraphs and Cocky.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:53 UTC+1 No.71306974 Report

>>71306815
>HAT
>do anything to shaddolls
No
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:54 UTC+1 No.71307046 Report

>>71306815
HAT's fucked once Shaddolls come out and Nutellas have good dodge game against them already. The Seraphs make them faster, but without them the Nutellas were still topping shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:55 UTC+1 No.71307076 Report

>>71306815
HAT auto-loses to Shadolls, not even joking.

If you auto-lose to a Tier 1 deck, surprise, you're not fucking Tier 1.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:56 UTC+1 No.71307148 Report

1x Raiza the Storm Monarch
2x Granmarg the Mega Monarch
1x Mobius the Frost Monarch
2x Foucault's Spellstone Cannon
2x Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon
3x Qliphoth Tool
3x Qliphoth Archive
2x Qliphoth Genome
2x Qliphoth Disk
2x Qliphoth Shell
1x Rescue Rat

2x Forbidden Lance
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
2x Return of the Monarchs
2x Pot of Duality
3x Summoner's Art
1x The Monarchs Storm Forth
1x Limiter Removal

1x Dimensional Prison
2x Skill Drain
2x Trap Stun
1x Bottomless Trap Hole

Side:
2x Majesty's Fiend
13x who cares

Extra:
15x who cares
>pooj
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:56 UTC+1 No.71307161 Report

http://articles.alterealitygames.com/top-8-argcs-milwaukee-report/
> People also seem have forgotten how math works and are taking out Upstart for some reason

Why have you forsaken Sun Tzu's golden ratios, dng?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:57 UTC+1 No.71307187 Report

>>71306376
As much as >mfw i heard Mega Sableye, I'm not so sure I like Magic Bounce over Prankster. I'd have to see what, if anything, he gets from ORAS to really make any good judgment on him.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:57 UTC+1 No.71307226 Report

>>71307161
It's adorable that ARG is still trying to be the SCG of Yugioh.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:58 UTC+1 No.71307241 Report

>>71307148
>Return
>no Caius
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:58 UTC+1 No.71307248 Report

>>71306715
Wait, you actually wasted your time saving a random shitter like me not reading in #fuckreading general?

Woah man, you're such a badass.
I hope my mistake can help the future /dng/ generations.
Faggot.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:59 UTC+1 No.71307314 Report

>Are you noticing a pattern yet? Every format is extremely similar in that it starts out very diverse, becomes much more concentrated, and then anti-meta strategies see success near the end of the format.

Hoban's right on this but no shit, even a retard could tell you that every format starts off diverse and becomes more centered as it progresses.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)06:59 UTC+1 No.71307315 Report

>>71307161
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No 06/20/14(Fri)07:00 UTC+1 No.71307356 Report

>>71306815
>HAT
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:01 UTC+1 No.71307421 Report

>>71307315
This is not at all incorrect. Sealed play for Top 16 (Or whatever it is. 32?) is the dumbest idea Konami's had regarding official tournaments.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:02 UTC+1 No.71307458 Report

>>71307315
>At least there's ARG
Wise words
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:02 UTC+1 No.71307476 Report

>>71307421
I don't think there's anyone who would defend that style of tournament. For free, anyway.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:03 UTC+1 No.71307515 Report

>>71307356
>Not enjoying HAT
stay bad, scrub
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:03 UTC+1 No.71307557 Report

>>71307476
You'd be surprised.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:05 UTC+1 No.71307631 Report

>>71307515
I enjoy playing it, there's just no way it'll be T1 when DUEA comes out
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:06 UTC+1 No.71307710 Report

>>>/tg/32890938
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retyopko 06/20/14(Fri)07:07 UTC+1 No.71307772 Report

>>71307161
It's neat to see Xyz Universe being used so much, it's a pretty cool card.

That said, fuck Hoban
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:09 UTC+1 No.71307856 Report

>>71307161
>I mind trick him into making gear gigant instead of abyss dweller which would have been outright game
Is "mind trick" code for bribe?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:33 UTC+1 No.71309176 Report

How would you get out of this predicament, /dng/?
This is the second turn, by the way.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:34 UTC+1 No.71309226 Report

>>71309176
101/Castel with lance ;)
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:34 UTC+1 No.71309247 Report

>>71309176
Set Shaddoll Dragon, Super Poly, Set BTS
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:37 UTC+1 No.71309379 Report

>>71309176
Heavy Storm because OCG overlords
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:38 UTC+1 No.71309420 Report

>>71309247
Scratch that I'm an idiot, Set Dragon, Super Poly and BTS. Veiled on his turn Flip Super Poly
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:39 UTC+1 No.71309491 Report

>>71309176
xyz encore ;)
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:40 UTC+1 No.71309534 Report

>>71309176
Grand Mole with Lance :3
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:52 UTC+1 No.71310170 Report

>>71303509
UPDATED: 3/19/14

epic
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:57 UTC+1 No.71310383 Report

>>71309176
Legit question here
If I were to use Monarchs Storm Forth, would Pandemic save Ophion?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)07:59 UTC+1 No.71310528 Report

>>71310383
No
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:00 UTC+1 No.71310590 Report

>>71310383
Nah

There really isn't much in the game that saves you from being able to use something as a tribute
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:01 UTC+1 No.71310662 Report

>>71310383
Ruling here based on lance says that Ophion may nt be tribute
>http://forum.duelingnetwork.com/index.php?/topic/121513-the-monarchs-storm-forth-vs-forbidden-lance/
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:04 UTC+1 No.71310807 Report

would mulligans drastically affect yugioh?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:05 UTC+1 No.71310834 Report

>>71310807
Yes
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:06 UTC+1 No.71310903 Report

>>71310807
there wouldn't be much point in not playing things like Exodia or Burn

Yugioh already is too consistant with 5 card draw hands into 40 card decks. Mulligans exist for a reason in 60 card deck TCGs.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:06 UTC+1 No.71310938 Report

>>71310590
Does that apply to a 5 material Heroic Champion,
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:09 UTC+1 No.71311060 Report

So do you guys like slow formats, personally I do but this one wasn't what I wanted
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:11 UTC+1 No.71311164 Report

>>71311060
Depends on how slow it is and if there are cards that are just "Well I drew this first, so now you're going to get fucked up".

But that last bit's more of a problem with Yugioh in general.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:11 UTC+1 No.71311172 Report

>>71311060
I like both but the set 5 is just getting too out of hand for my taste. Plus with shit like armor and hands running around it's just a guessing game.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:12 UTC+1 No.71311231 Report

>>71310938
5 material no due to the "no normal/special summoning" thing.

Well actually, no, you could still set them. You wouldn't get any effects or anything, but it's doable.
So I guess yeah you could do that.

>>71311060
I personally prefer control formats rather than stun. I love that back and forth rather than just seeing whoever can set their field up wins.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)08:14 UTC+1 No.71311350 Report

Good morning
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:17 UTC+1 No.71311502 Report

Rate my Gadgets
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:18 UTC+1 No.71311549 Report

I'm literally only staying up for the banlist
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Mr.Vet Sr. 06/20/14(Fri)08:18 UTC+1 No.71311551 Report

>>71311350
I don't talk to ghosts of dead men. Sorry.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:19 UTC+1 No.71311603 Report

>>71311549
Probably wont be posted until afternoon.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:20 UTC+1 No.71311636 Report

>>71311603
The banlist isn't coming for another two fucking weeks.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:20 UTC+1 No.71311650 Report

>>71311502
>3 Gearframe
>Cannon
>3 Fortress
>no Zephyros for recycling CotH
>no Kagetokage

Meh.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:21 UTC+1 No.71311670 Report

>>71311502
LOL
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)08:24 UTC+1 No.71311803 Report

>>71311551
I-I'm not dead.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:25 UTC+1 No.71311827 Report

Why are they giving heroes another vanilla poly searcher when they're trying to make them focus on masked heroes now? And why are they printing another Prisma?
Why is Machina Fortress literally free to revive now?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:25 UTC+1 No.71311849 Report

>>71301587
As someone who doesnt know anything about Pendulums, arent the ''normal'' pendulums shit and more of a trial deck thing?

Or are they the standart?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:25 UTC+1 No.71311861 Report

>>71311827
Why are you sucking my dick?
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Mr.Vet Sr. 06/20/14(Fri)08:27 UTC+1 No.71311947 Report

>>71311803
You won't get me this time ghost of /dng/ posters.

I ain't fraid of no ghost.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:27 UTC+1 No.71311951 Report

>>71311849
Currently standard because your alternative until next set is the fucking entertainimals.

The "normal" pendulums have good scales without requiring your entire strategy be between two cards, are searchable via summoner's art, and a bunch of other good stuff.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:27 UTC+1 No.71311960 Report

>>71311849
Radiant Knight and Foucult Spellstone Cannon are mediocre but they're searchable by cards that don't activate in the End Phase so that makes them appealing to some people.

The Qliphoth Normal Pendulum would be the main reason to pick up Summoner's Art, along with any other future Normal Pendulum monsters they make that have similar or better effects.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:28 UTC+1 No.71311996 Report

GIVE ME MY THIRD TENGU
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:29 UTC+1 No.71312039 Report

>>71307161
>>The 8th round I’m paired up against my friend Aaron Furman. I intended to just draw into top cut with whoever I’m paired with, but Furman says he’s just going to give me the win since he’s undefeated with a draw and giving me the win will help Alyx’s ties and give him a better chance of making it.
>>After the round is over they announce standings and I come in second. I find out that my top 16 opponent is playing Spellbooks. The deck lists weren’t posted so I don’t get to know anything other than the deck type.

I cant believe people still play ARG circuits

When thaty fucker play in the YCS Mexico he get a massive anal rape. The fucker cant even make it to day two.
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)08:30 UTC+1 No.71312094 Report

Anyone want the Pass to my main account?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:31 UTC+1 No.71312131 Report

>>71312094
>Implying I don't have it
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:31 UTC+1 No.71312138 Report

>>71311849
A "vanilla" Pendulum is the centerpiece of the first competitive Pendulum deck
Helps that it's a scale 9 that searches stuff
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:31 UTC+1 No.71312154 Report

>>71311849
Speaking of not knowing anything about Pendulums. Anyone have a decent deck to try them out with?
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)08:32 UTC+1 No.71312215 Report

>>71312131
What is it then, turbonerd?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:34 UTC+1 No.71312273 Report

>>71312215
Your mum, nerd.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:35 UTC+1 No.71312323 Report

>>71312215
why would you tell his your password is turbonerd

what if people hack you now, tripfag-sama
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:39 UTC+1 No.71312540 Report

>>71312094
why would anyone want that
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:39 UTC+1 No.71312542 Report

>>71312154
There's nothing great with them currently. Wait for Qliphoth.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:40 UTC+1 No.71312552 Report

What's the current log in music on dn? It's not actually bad
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:41 UTC+1 No.71312619 Report

>>71312542
Qliphoths are shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:41 UTC+1 No.71312627 Report

>>71312552
X Gonna Give It To Ya by DMX
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)08:41 UTC+1 No.71312654 Report

>>71312273
ebin. just ebin :*)

>>71312323
It isn't though It's my Tripcode too!

I would really like this for the bannu rist.

Forbidden: Soul charge Blaster, Tidal

Limited: Geargiagear, Geargiarmor, Monster Reborn, Trishula, Infernity Archfiend, Scock Master

Semi-Limited: Judgement Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, Allure of Darkness

Unlimited: Tengu
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:42 UTC+1 No.71312682 Report

>>71312542
I know there's no tier 1 shit yet but surely there's some tier 2.5 scrap pendulum deck or something someone has saved.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:43 UTC+1 No.71312731 Report

>>71312619
Okay, euro scum.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:43 UTC+1 No.71312758 Report

>>71312654
>Forbidden: Soul charge
I knew I should've stopped there. Why did I continue...

That's an awful list.
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)08:44 UTC+1 No.71312815 Report

>>71312758
Feel free to degrade my opinions as much as you like!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:44 UTC+1 No.71312816 Report

>>71312654
>Limited: Monster Reborn
Shut the fuck up forever.
>Allure to 2 with Shadolls on the horizon
Shut the FUCK up.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:45 UTC+1 No.71312864 Report

>>71312815
bad

really bad

like really really bad
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:46 UTC+1 No.71312896 Report

>>71312815
yea, typical shitter opinions.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:48 UTC+1 No.71312972 Report

>>71312816
>only mentioning those two

Literally everything there except for geargiagear to 1 is pretty stupid.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:50 UTC+1 No.71313091 Report

>>71306570
My favorite list thus far, the only thing I don't understand is Crane to 2
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:52 UTC+1 No.71313158 Report

>>71312816
>There are still people mad with Allure of Darkness at this day and age
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:54 UTC+1 No.71313271 Report

>>71312816
>Allure to 2 with Shadolls on the horizon
But that makes sense
$$$
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:54 UTC+1 No.71313283 Report

Other than LIM, what is there to side vs tellas?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:56 UTC+1 No.71313357 Report

>>71313283
Skill Drain
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:56 UTC+1 No.71313364 Report

>>71306570
oh hey, this list isn't awful. I wouldn't call it a great list, nor one that I can see happening, but it's ok.

>>71313091
just a slap on the wrist, and even though it's searchable, people will just draw crane less. It's always annoying to run into an unsearched crane.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:57 UTC+1 No.71313393 Report

>>71313283
summon limit, kasier collesium, skill drain, torrential
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:57 UTC+1 No.71313436 Report

>>71313283
and the band played on
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:58 UTC+1 No.71313494 Report

>>71313436
played on this dick maybe
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)08:59 UTC+1 No.71313535 Report

>>71313283
Vanity's Emptiness too
That reminds me, Pendulum monsters don't make Vanity's selfdestruct when they die, right?
So you could just sit on Skill Drain and Vanity and keep normal summoning beaters you search off of Tool
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:01 UTC+1 No.71313625 Report

>Mound of the Bound Creator in Gishkis to make Zielgigas completely invincible short of Monarchs Storm Forth
That's actually kind of smart.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:01 UTC+1 No.71313646 Report

>>71313625
>Zielgigas staying on the field any longer than OTK turn

Stop playing the deck wrong.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:02 UTC+1 No.71313691 Report

>>71301538
Are any of the other simulators any good? I've only ever used DN.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:03 UTC+1 No.71313715 Report

>>71313691
Nope
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:03 UTC+1 No.71313738 Report

Booster Special: Tribe Force
Release October 11th, 2014
143 Yen per Pack

This pack’ll let you make a bunch of Deck Themes! It’s the latest type of Pack, which specializes in building specific decks!
5 Cards per Pack; 20 Packs per Box

60 Different Cards
3 Secret Rares
15 Super Rares
42 Commons
All Commons also come in Parallel Common.

The included themes are 3 new themes: Pendulum, Ritual and Fusion based, and Synchros for an existing Deck Type.

Since it includes cards for the above themes, you can make multiple Decks based on the themes from this Pack.

General Purpose Spells and Traps for building these Theme Decks are also included!

Along with new cards, there will also be cards reprinted that were cards that were previously very difficult to get by any means.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:03 UTC+1 No.71313745 Report

>>71313691
Duel Arena
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:05 UTC+1 No.71313805 Report

>>71313738
>Next Challengers not even out the door
>LETS GET THIS NEW SHIT ANNOUNCED
Fucking faggots
>Ritual
Good to know there's already wasted space in the next pack
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)09:05 UTC+1 No.71313806 Report

>>71313691
JackPro is pretty neat.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:05 UTC+1 No.71313807 Report

>>71313646
>being able to summon Zielgigas completely safely into 5 backrow
>bad
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:06 UTC+1 No.71313868 Report

>>71313745
>>71313806
Any notable differences?

Also, how rekt would I get with this?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:06 UTC+1 No.71313871 Report

>>71313805
More like
>not even close to Raging Masters' release in August
>ANNOUNCE THE NEXT ONE RIGHT NOW
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:07 UTC+1 No.71313904 Report

>>71313745
>Euro Arena
>any good
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:07 UTC+1 No.71313939 Report

>>71313904
>BR network
>any good
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)09:08 UTC+1 No.71313959 Report

>>71313868
I was joking JackPro is this bootleg version of YGOPro. I'd use YGOPro if I were to use a simulator other than DN. YGOPro is automatic and needs to be downloaded so there's that.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:08 UTC+1 No.71313965 Report

>>71313805
did you react the same way when DUEA was announced and shaddolls were being promoted
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:09 UTC+1 No.71314014 Report

>>71313965
I didn't react to DUEA at all beyond wow Pendulums look like shit

Lo and behold, they were shit
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)09:11 UTC+1 No.71314109 Report

>>71313868
Don't use that deck. You'll get retkd into next sunday. Give me a sec and I'll post a petdeck of mine.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:12 UTC+1 No.71314160 Report

>>71313868
You'd get destroyed, look up tier 3+ decks.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:12 UTC+1 No.71314163 Report

>>71313868
>Morphtronic Staplen

SUCH AS?!
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)09:13 UTC+1 No.71314187 Report

>Go to DN
>Input password
>nothing

Holy shit, he wasn't joking. He knew my password. Fuck. What do?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:14 UTC+1 No.71314239 Report

>>71314187
Get hacked, fucker.

Too late, already hacked.

gg, git gud
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:14 UTC+1 No.71314246 Report

>>71314187
>Gitting this gud
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:16 UTC+1 No.71314334 Report

>>71314246
>(You)

Nice try, fag. You're not me.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:18 UTC+1 No.71314404 Report

>>71314334
>Implying you're not me
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:18 UTC+1 No.71314416 Report

>>71314334
>not being you
you can't underestimate a master hacker like me
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:18 UTC+1 No.71314429 Report

>>71314404
>>71314416
>implying I'm you
>implying you're me
>implying any of us are any one
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:20 UTC+1 No.71314516 Report

>>71314429
>thinking 4chan isn't just you, me, and the third guy
Where have you even been
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:21 UTC+1 No.71314526 Report

>>71313691
ygopro is by far the best simulator and easiest to maintain once downloaded
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:21 UTC+1 No.71314537 Report

>>71314516
your mom's house, making you a little brother
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:22 UTC+1 No.71314583 Report

>>71314537
thanks dad but shouldn't you be working at konami posting the banlist?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:22 UTC+1 No.71314610 Report

>>71314583
I'll work when I want, faggot
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:25 UTC+1 No.71314734 Report

these DD pendulum cards seem like they suck
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:25 UTC+1 No.71314751 Report

>3. Miniclip Credits will replace Coins in-game.

Make sure you retarded goy-, I mean good goymin, purchase as many miniclip credits as possible!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:26 UTC+1 No.71314791 Report

>>71314751
I told you niggers playing the beta was pointless

Enjoy your cash shop, pay 2 play game
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)09:27 UTC+1 No.71314802 Report

are local tourneys typically easier than rated games on dueling network? does anyone here have experience with that?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:30 UTC+1 No.71314904 Report

>>71314791
the first few days were fun.

playing very low tier decks, no netdecker op shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:30 UTC+1 No.71314913 Report

>>71314802
>Obligatory who the FUCK are you
As long as you're not a shitposting faggot I don't care

It depends what rating you are

If you're below 1300ish then people in real life will be, on average, better

Once you get above that you have the possibility of playing against decent people

It also depends where you live, for example if you live in the middle of no where then you'll prob have mostly shit players around you
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:30 UTC+1 No.71314926 Report

>>71314904
Scrub.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:30 UTC+1 No.71314937 Report

>>71314802
Depends on where exactly where you are and who attends, but for cities in my area (Lexington, Louisville Cincinnati), it's very common to see several Tier 1 decks with just a few below the meta
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:30 UTC+1 No.71314941 Report

>>71314791
I thought it was made clear that people were only playing for pet decks and booster opening and that they'd leave when the beta ended.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)09:33 UTC+1 No.71315048 Report

>>71313868
Get some equips and abuse the shit out of Power tool dragon.

That's the only FUN way to play.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:34 UTC+1 No.71315090 Report

>>71314937
>Several tier 1 decks

I don't know if I'd prefer a shit locals as it'd be easier to win or if it'd get boring.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)09:35 UTC+1 No.71315129 Report

>>71314913
Is there a way to get your rating to not reset every fucking time they re-do forbidden lists or some shit
because I don't even know what my rating was before they started resetting a shitload. I was probably below 1300-ish, but I also only play to burn on dueling network mostly because meta
also hi I'm oddish I'm just here to talk about duel monsters. I prefer defensive decks to offensive ones.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)09:36 UTC+1 No.71315197 Report

>>71315129
They only reset every new format because it doesn't make any sense to have 1300 rating at the start.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)09:37 UTC+1 No.71315245 Report

>>71315197
that's fine but I don't duel enough or seriously to the extent that I can just re-get all that rated every time they feel like updating something.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:38 UTC+1 No.71315259 Report

>>71315129
how the fuck do you get to 1300 with burn

unless it's, like, chain burn or w/e
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:38 UTC+1 No.71315269 Report

>>71315129
No there is not, all ratings are reset every list

>You only play burn on dueling network

If you start going to locals you will get absolutely destroyed as soon as people see you're playing burn, as they can just side against you and hard counter if you're actually winning anything

That's the problem with alt win decks, you can't play them consistently with people who know you're playing it.

>>71315245
They only reset on lists, every 3 months.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)09:38 UTC+1 No.71315279 Report

>>71315245
Sounds to me like you're not suited for competitive play then, which is the entire point of rated.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:39 UTC+1 No.71315298 Report

>>71315279
No, the entire point of rated is e-peen.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:39 UTC+1 No.71315307 Report

Just for fun
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:39 UTC+1 No.71315313 Report

>>71315259
That's not difficult in Singles.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:41 UTC+1 No.71315365 Report

>>71315313
>>71315245
Oh you were playing singles? Then you were just playing alt win without side decks, which is really really scrubby

If you were playing singles you will definitely get wrecked in matches
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:42 UTC+1 No.71315421 Report

since burn decks are being brought up, i was wondering: are there any burn decks running around in yugioh atm? i've seen people here talk about shit like a certain burn deck being a thing again
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:43 UTC+1 No.71315452 Report

>>71315421
Satella Burn because when it can't burn the other guy out it's just a mediocre Satella deck.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)09:44 UTC+1 No.71315472 Report

>>71315259
I use a lot of burn decks, and though I might have hit 1300 at one point, I certainly haven't recently. Especially since I get bored of decks pretty quickly. My go-to was a regular simochi/gift card deck supported heavily by metaion, but at some point I started using a chain energy with stall deck. Recently I've been tampering with a typical life equalizer burn and though it wasn't smooth at first it's working out better lately.
>>71315279
My rating in singles right now is 170. I've done a shitload of games. Like over 500. Though to be fair most of it is testing.
My rating in matches is 251. I've done 23 games.
>>71315365
typically played singles because I didn't want to dedicate more than ten minutes per duel usually, but I'm getting a bit more into it and made the switch to matches the other night and I like it a bit more.
>>71315279
but rated is the quickest way to get a real match going
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:47 UTC+1 No.71315647 Report

>>71315472
Yes but the problem with singles is that you can't side and you just lose to irrelevant decks like dark worlds / burn that would lose in games 2 / 3

Also if you're planning to play in real life you need to learn how to build a side deck / side (for example, depending if you're going first second, if your opponent has any skilled techs, etc)
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)09:50 UTC+1 No.71315734 Report

>>71315269
burn is pretty easily countered with good backrow designed for it I suppose. But I don't really like xyz or synchro designed decks, and this is the most interesting thing I can think up without those.
Often times it seems to me that it's up to the draw, even with strategic siding, and it's kind of a psychological game when it comes down to preventing an opponents backrow from outdoing your burn.
>>71315647
I agree. Which is why I've started doing matches instead. I've always made side decks even when I played singles, and so far I've had a much better experience in matches because I can typically win or be at least a tougher opponent versus dark world or glad beast decks.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:53 UTC+1 No.71315838 Report

>>71315734
>You don't like synchro or xyz

I can only suggest trying something like frognarchs then or gishki beat

However all decks run an extra deck, it's stupid not too

Also just to let you know people irl don't like playing against burn, it's pretty much a waste of time for them because of how non interactive the deck is

Not fun either
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)09:57 UTC+1 No.71316023 Report

>>71315838
>tfw you get stabbed by a madolche playing black individual for ruining his fun by playing burn
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)09:57 UTC+1 No.71316034 Report

>>71315734
actually I take that back, I like some other deck types, but I'm worried they're too outdated to work well in a sim - for instance, Elemental Hero decks were always fun, but I doubt they're challenging.
I always really really enjoyed that guardian sphinx/exodius deck that came out a super long time ago, but I imagine it's just super useless now. It's whole thing was trib summon and flip summon cards that had high defense/sent monsters back to hand and stuff, and that was really fun.
>>71315838
I use fusion sometimes. I'm just really not into how most ideal xyz decks involve theme monsters that self summon eachother, and I think xyz cards are a little op- there's no on field limit to special summoning, they've always got higher attacks per star, and they nearly always have two or even three effects that are really useful. the limits and pitfalls don't seem equivalent to me. I'm not huge into gishki but it's alright. Dunno frognarchs.
and yeah people flame me hard for burn often, but it's pretty fun to use. Well, sometimes. It has it's moments. I just wish more people were polite.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)09:59 UTC+1 No.71316083 Report

Since Shadolls are still a month away, which do you think is the most fun deck atm /dng/?

It could be tier 1 or not, i just wanna know which is the funniest and entertaining to play.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:02 UTC+1 No.71316245 Report

>>71316083
I still fucking love instant fusion madolche
It's just 2fun to queen 2 hands
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:03 UTC+1 No.71316278 Report

>>71316034
Heroes after the new structure deck are infinitely more viable than burn is

Yes sphinx were always shit

>If think xyz are a little op

You have a serious condition called snowflake syndrome
It means that you just randomly choose cards that you like and define those as fair, and dislike other cards that are better on the basis that they're 'op' which is fucking retarded

The whole idea to use the good cards if you're playing in real life, there's no point in just losing every game because you use shit cards

>I wish people were more polite
It's because you're really wasting their time, most people come on dn to test irl for tournaments and stuff, and you're just using a non interactive deck that stalls

I don't know anyone who enjoys playing against burn
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)10:07 UTC+1 No.71316463 Report

>>71316278
>Heroes after the new structure deck are infinitely more viable than burn is
maybe I'll make a deck then. can I survive with just fusion in my extra?
>You have a serious condition called snowflake syndrome
rude of you to say. I don't think you really know me.do you have any sort of reasoning as to why synchro or xyz should be in the extra deck and thus not need to be drawn, or a justification as to how special summoning is unlimited and new theme cards take total advantage of that? Like I said, my problems with it are that the ban lists have consistently been getting rid of any card that doesn't have a fair give or take, but the xyz cards and their themes typically, at least in my opinion, contain a lot more give than take, and I think it's making any non-xyz or synchro decks less and less viable.
>It's because you're really wasting their time
non interactive decks are my favorite though.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:09 UTC+1 No.71316526 Report

How are my gears?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:11 UTC+1 No.71316605 Report

>>71316526
Grinding.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:11 UTC+1 No.71316608 Report

>>71316278
>The whole idea to use the good cards if you're playing in real life
Not that guy, but if you happen to not enjoy whatever happens to be the best deck of the format too much you just shouldn't play IRL at all then?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:12 UTC+1 No.71316675 Report

>>71316608
If you care that much about having fun while playing YGO probably isn't the game for you to begin with.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:13 UTC+1 No.71316681 Report

>>71316605
Something constructive would be nice
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:13 UTC+1 No.71316706 Report

>>71316681
I'm not here to be nice.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:14 UTC+1 No.71316730 Report

How does one build a Sophia deck, what are the good ratios?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:14 UTC+1 No.71316745 Report

>>71316706
You're here to suck my dick.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:14 UTC+1 No.71316748 Report

>>71316681
-deck
+geargia
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:14 UTC+1 No.71316752 Report

>>71316706
Why are you here?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:15 UTC+1 No.71316782 Report

>>71316752
To crash this thread.

WITH NO SURVIVORS
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)10:17 UTC+1 No.71316898 Report

Have Wind-Ups done anything this format? Like, even on a regional level?
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Elegy the Electric Boogaloo 06/20/14(Fri)10:17 UTC+1 No.71316921 Report

>>71316463
It's not ideal but yes you can use just fusions

Also going to bed but you're not going to do well here judging by your reply

>rude of you to say. I don't think you really know me.
>What is vg

>take total advantage of that
Depends on what you define as total advantage, i.e as fair. Once again, you're just using cards you like as the definition of fair, which is really subjective.

>It's making non xyz / synchro decks less viable
Non xyz / synchro decks haven't been good in a long long time, again you're just want things you like to be best which is dumb and won't happen

>Non interactive decks are my favorite though
Good luck finding people to play against them

>>71316608
I'm not saying that you have to play the best deck, but if you're going to play irl then realistically if you're playing anything below tier 2.5-tier 3 you're wasting your time.

Note that by playing irl I mean in locals / regionals / ycs etc
If you're just playing casually with friends then do whatever you want

>Elegy post
Well shit
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retyopko 06/20/14(Fri)10:18 UTC+1 No.71316941 Report

What is the song that plays in your head when you topdeck perfectly and flawlessly?

>drawing Onslaught to nuke a fully filled field of five monsters
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:19 UTC+1 No.71316979 Report

>>71316941
same song I play when I fuck your mother
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retyopko 06/20/14(Fri)10:21 UTC+1 No.71317109 Report

>>71316941
>forgot link to my song
Fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EfhAFA2yFE


>>71316730
>Sophia while FuFu is banned
Quit while you're ahead

>>71316526
I question to you, what possible positive feedback could you possibly want from here? Ancient Gears do not function well as an archetype, if you really want to play them, go with something like what Cyber Dragons do, triple Reckless, Upstart, Power Bond, and Trap Stun for full YOLO, and I guess you can toss in 2-3 Gemini Spark for use with their Gemini (seriously why the fuck is he a Gemini, god damn)
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)10:23 UTC+1 No.71317176 Report

>>71316921
>Depends on what you define as total advantage, i.e as fair.
I suppose it's a little pointless to reply to you (good night by the way) but does having an opinion of what is fair, and one you don't seem to be able to come up with a decent argument against, special snowflake-y? You aren't arguing whether or not my opinion is flawed, you're just telling me that this is the way things are whether it's fair or not and if I can't beat em join em, but I'm not done trying to beat em yet.
>Good luck finding people to play against them
I also like d.d. and normalcy (though normalcy is 100% impossible).
Thanks for being mostly civil.
>>71316941
different on any day
but right now?
it'd be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yzu-4kJg6g
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:23 UTC+1 No.71317187 Report

>>71316941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WXYajeP9TE
>>71316898
Someone tried a traptrix wind up build, don't know if it topped anything
>>71317109
That song too
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:24 UTC+1 No.71317242 Report

>>71317176
You do realize you're supposed to play the most unfair deck possible.
It's a fucking competitive game. Nobody gives a shit about what's "fair".
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:26 UTC+1 No.71317312 Report

>>71316463
>non interactive decks are my favorite though.

Then fuck off and play solitair or something like that if you dont want to play yugioh.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:27 UTC+1 No.71317380 Report

>>71316463
your basic problem is that you don't want the meta to evolve from what cards you cherish. your point is literally "i-i don't like these specific cards!" which is code for "i want a stagnant metagame/muh nostalgia!"

if you pull your head out of your ass you'll realize how unfun it is for other players to go against burn decks at times the same way you don't like xyz/synchro decks
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:31 UTC+1 No.71317550 Report

>>71317176
it's unfair because the specific deck you like to run is non-interactive as well and necessitates running specific counter cards to it. they also have the tendency to facilitate FTK bullshit which is way worse than xyz/synchro degeneracy.

all the advantage generating in the world (which isn't as good as you seem to think it is with meta deck) won't matter if your opponent's basically playing solitaire
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)10:33 UTC+1 No.71317613 Report

>>71317242
I care. muh honor
>>71317380
> "i-i don't like these specific cards!"
that's not it at all though. I wouldnt mind xyz or synchro if they didn't almost always have a way higher attack, no summoning limit, theme decks that super amplify their own summoning, and multiple damaging effects with near zero drawbacks. that's not balance. I also think it's an unwise decision by the card writers to make an addition to their game that makes previous decks almost entirely irrelevant. You're supposed to build on things.
>if you pull your head out of your ass you'll realize how unfun it is for other players to go against burn decks at times the same way you don't like xyz/synchro decks
I understand it's unfun. It's also an adaptation I had to make when I found the new card types to be unbalanced, and more importantly, the cards are balanced. They don't have multiple effects, there are limits and they can be bypassed. They aren't otk unless I'm in an IDEAL situation and my opponent has little to no backrow. They require immense backrow to work. There's give and take.
>>71317550
>it's unfair because the specific deck you like to run is non-interactive as well and necessitates running specific counter cards to it.
it's only my preference because I've yet to find a deck that I truly enjoy, and can operate with against other new decks. it's more like a default.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:35 UTC+1 No.71317685 Report

>>71317613
>I care. muh honor
Honor won't help you win, and winning is all that matters.
>that's not balance
It is when everyone can do it. Also, gimped as fuck cards that don't do anything are not fun.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:36 UTC+1 No.71317752 Report

>>71317613
>I've yet to find a deck that I truly enjoy
You're not supposed to play YGO for the decks
You're supposed to play it for the competition
Just play whatever will give you the highest probability of winning
Winning is fun
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)10:38 UTC+1 No.71317812 Report

>>71317685
>Honor won't help you win, and winning is all that matters.
I don't care about winning unless I do it in some way that facilitates my ability to think in real time and be actually skillful about my play. That's me and that's how I feel.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:38 UTC+1 No.71317830 Report

>>71317812
Enjoy losing then.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:39 UTC+1 No.71317850 Report

>>71317812
You say that but you're playing burn shit.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)10:40 UTC+1 No.71317925 Report

>>71317850
which is why I'm here. I'm looking for decks that aren't burn (because they're only fun to play sometimes and though I like how they're most about chaining and strategically placing your cards to confuse the opponent) and I'd like to find a deck type that's more suitable.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:41 UTC+1 No.71317960 Report

>>71317812
>I don't care about winning
what the fuck
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:43 UTC+1 No.71318008 Report

>>71317613
they aren't balanced you realized

konami hits ftk/alt win decks just as hard as they ban blatantly broken meta decks as soon as they've made money off them. and they are updating old mechanics and archetypes. what the fuck do you think recently topped OCG lists? before satella star seraphs it was a fusion deck with a little synchro and flip effects

maybe yugioh isn't for you? to be honest all TCGs have some form of this unfairness you're complaining about so I have NO idea what you want
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:43 UTC+1 No.71318026 Report

>>71317613
>that's not balance.
Not him, but you're being really stupid. Balance is relative, and the only reason you're seeing them as super powered / absolutely fucking amazing is because you think shit cards are decent.
>it's only my preference because I've yet to find a deck that I truly enjoy, and can operate with against other new decks. it's more like a default.
But you can't, burn is absolutely horrible now and completely irrelevant. You can give personal evidence by saying you beat tier 1, but you're playing objectively shit players (you're at like 250 rating). You should just learn frognarchs or something with real interactions / siding etc.

I don't know if this will be a good place for you. Most people here play tier 2+, and while there are alot of fucking retards here, it's no where near as bad as other sites. If you want a very casual oriented site where people just circle jerk and spout subjective opinions, I would suggest checking out pojo or /r/yugioh. Just as a warning though, going on those sites will impair / destroy any potential understanding of the metagame / how to be half decent at the game that you might have. Of course, they often argue similar to you in that they just choose things they like and define them as fair, so maybe you'd like that?

>>71317925
>I want to find a deck type that's more suitable
Try chain beat. It's also not a fun deck to play against, but it's far more likeable than pure burn. It also has control, doesn't really use an extra deck, and involves alot of chaining / backrow (which you seem to think is strategic).
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:46 UTC+1 No.71318154 Report

>>71317925
i suggest going on unrated and typing no xyz/synchro/anything i hate on the duel notes

you're going to find like-minded souls
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:48 UTC+1 No.71318223 Report

>>71318026
why not make him play ghostricks, i bet he finds those skillful too
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:48 UTC+1 No.71318261 Report

>>71318223
Ghostricks are skillful though.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:49 UTC+1 No.71318298 Report

>>71318261
Fuck off, MeteorD.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:49 UTC+1 No.71318302 Report

So my friend gave me a whole bunch of Gimmick Puppet and Ghostrick cards, tried Ghostricks and they seem extremely slow and annoying but I actually kind of liked the Gimmick Puppets.
So I threw this together with a bunch of old cards I had and added some that I don't have but thinking of ordering.
I honestly don't like buying cards because it feels like a waste of money but I need a new social hobby and was thinking of going to locals, I could just pay for the toppest of tier decks but I want to make this work and hopefully save money.
I've tested it a bit and I sometimes lose in the first couple of turns because I have shitty useless cards and other times dominate them.

How can I make this gud without completely scrapping it?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:50 UTC+1 No.71318321 Report

>>71318261
Fuck off, MeatierD
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:50 UTC+1 No.71318347 Report

>>71318261
Fuck off, MeteorD.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:51 UTC+1 No.71318379 Report

>>71318261
they also don't have a decent wincon and are """fair""" in this guy's made-up rules of what's fair, where making decent decks that don't minus hard and synergise with each other are unfair by literally playing solitaire and preventing your opponent from playing at all is fair and balanced and skilled
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)10:51 UTC+1 No.71318393 Report

What's the generic trap line-up in this format?
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)10:53 UTC+1 No.71318457 Report

>>71318008
a deck I like that I can use.
>>71318026
>Not him, but you're being really stupid.
rude.
>Balance is relative, and the only reason you're seeing them as super powered / absolutely fucking amazing is because you think shit cards are decent.
they're op relative to everything that came before them. you're just defining op.
>You should just learn frognarchs or something with real interactions / siding etc.
it's something I'm gonna try. But I'm 250 for a reason: I haven't played this a whole lot at all and I'm only now trying to get into it.
>If you want a very casual oriented site where people just circle jerk and spout subjective opinions
I don't. I'm only sharing my opinion here as a means of finding a deck I like. So far I've got frognarchs, elemental heroes are somewhat viable though not as much so if you only use fusion (and building a deck out of them has not been encouraging) and I suppose I could probably adjust a default d.d. deck into something useful.
>Of course, they often argue similar to you in that they just choose things they like and define them as fair, so maybe you'd like that?
why is everyone still refusing to acknowledge my argument? regardless of the obvious subjectivity of such a thing, you're disregarding that I have legitimate reasons why I don't like it, and everyone's reason for using it so far is because "I must win/it exists and fight fire with fire".
>>71318379
it's about card balance, not some made up bullshit about whether or not the cards are interactive. the list of pros and cons for all cards should be more or less equal. there should be pitfalls and ways around them just as they have advantages. not more. it's the lopsidedness that bothers me.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:53 UTC+1 No.71318459 Report

>>71318393
Mirror Force
Acid Trap Hole
Compulsory Escape Device
Magic Cylinder
Ordeal of a Traveler
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)10:53 UTC+1 No.71318460 Report

>>71318393
Warning, BTH, TT, CED, 3x BTS?

And I find myself maining 3 MST and 3 Lance in every deck I make.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:54 UTC+1 No.71318509 Report

>>71318393
Big 4
2 d-prison
2-3 wiretap
3 breakthrough
0-2 fiendish chain
0-2 black horn of heaven
tech trap stun
tech seven tools
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:58 UTC+1 No.71318675 Report

What's for breakfast?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:59 UTC+1 No.71318695 Report

>>71318457
Oh I see why you're making that argument
>they're op relative to everything that came before them. you're just defining op.
Yes but how is everything that came before them needing to be relevant

It's this way with any tcg, if decks did not become outdated then there would be no way for the company to make money and the game would die
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:59 UTC+1 No.71318705 Report

>>71318675
This dick. Eat up.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)10:59 UTC+1 No.71318724 Report

>>71318675
This dick
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retyopko 06/20/14(Fri)11:00 UTC+1 No.71318756 Report

>>71318675
Madolche Cake obviously
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:00 UTC+1 No.71318757 Report

>>71318695
>Yes but how is everything that came before them needing to be relevant
it's the whole basis of the game.
>It's this way with any tcg, if decks did not become outdated then there would be no way for the company to make money and the game would die
right, and that makes sense from a company's standpoint (i.e., making money) but not from a making a fun and balanced game standpoint.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)11:00 UTC+1 No.71318770 Report

>>71318705
>>71318724
dickmind
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:07 UTC+1 No.71319086 Report

>>71318757
holy shit are you dense

it's bad from a gameplay standpoint too since it just causes the game to stagnate since you're just reskinning the same playstyles with new cards that do the same things means more of the same shit. sure, you can call that balanced, but that's creatively sterile.

ok where do we from one normal summon a turn? maybe get around it with effects that let normal summon more than once per turn. or maybe special summon (which has always been part of the game). that's progress. if you don't let the mechanics of the evolve you're basically letting your game die.

and you realize TCGs make it a point to introduce new stuff that turns out to do really well with old cards, or release new support for old cards, right? hell it's something that yugioh players benefit from - konami might throw you a bone and update your petdeck. recent examples are like harpies and monarchs
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:08 UTC+1 No.71319105 Report

>>71318757
>right, and that makes sense from a company's standpoint (i.e., making money) but not from a making a fun and balanced game standpoint.

If we have a choice between a perfectly balanced game that doesn't get any updates, support (and thus new players) nor any progress in it and a game like yugioh with regionals / ycs / arg etc, I'm fine with the second.

Sure it would be nice to have a perfectly balanced game. However, it would get stagnant if the first decks were forever viable, and no money to fund it.

If you want to pay for it go for it, but no company is going to.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:08 UTC+1 No.71319130 Report

Are malefics still semi-viable, or are they blown sky high now?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:09 UTC+1 No.71319183 Report

>>71319086
>you're just reskinning the same playstyles with new cards that do the same things
That's what Bushiroad is doing for the most part and it's working out pretty well for them.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:12 UTC+1 No.71319327 Report

>>71319130
Wait for Qliphoths for your drainbeat fix.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:13 UTC+1 No.71319357 Report

>>71319086
>creatively sterile
Since when has "creativity" ever mattered in this game?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:13 UTC+1 No.71319365 Report

>>71319183
Legion was actually a pretty huge fucking change from LB4.

But you're talking out of your ass at this point, which is normal for when /dng/ talks about any game that isn't Yugioh.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:14 UTC+1 No.71319419 Report

>>71319327
>Check this out
>Pendulum summon, when the pendulum summon is on both sides of the pendulum summon

This is as confusing as when XYZ were introduced.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:15 UTC+1 No.71319451 Report

I hear pendulum decks suck
>>71319086
>sure, you can call that balanced, but that's creatively sterile.
you can innovate while still being balanced. synchor and xyz could be balanced with rule changes. simply limit special summons per turn.
>or maybe special summon (which has always been part of the game). that's progress. if you don't let the mechanics of the evolve you're basically letting your game die.
exactly! this is a great line of thought! it's that this isn't limited that really makes a deck op. you can recycle monster effects endlessly to summon the card you want, all in one, ten minute turn, because there's no limit to special summons so why not
>recent examples are like harpies and monarchs
burn doesn't need updates. the cards are fine, and burn decks will always sink or float based on how well the opponents backrow is and how effective you are at making them misuse it while also making the best use of your own backrow as you can. it'll never be good, but it's always going to be an option for killing overly offensive decks.
>>71319105
If we have a choice between a perfectly balanced game that doesn't get any updates, support (and thus new players) nor any progress in it and a game like yugioh with regionals / ycs / arg etc, I'm fine with the second.
but you don't have to choose. A game can be get updates, have support, and still be balanced.
>However, it would get stagnant if the first decks were forever viable, and no money to fund it.
but old decks can be viable! some have been given updates and are thus usable in current gen! and what would be stagnant about letting old decks still work, as long as new decks and new card additions were also balanced? it's not like everything has to always have 1500 atk at 4 stars or something. they've updated things like this before and it went super smoothly, because they added support for the old cards and balanced the new ones.
>>71319357
I've always really liked the artwork.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)11:16 UTC+1 No.71319475 Report

>>71319419
Neither Xyz summoning or Pendulum summoning is confusing.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:17 UTC+1 No.71319537 Report

>>71319365
Legion is a huge change in the game's speed and pacing, but really VGs are the only thing Bushiroad still spends any amount of creative effort on. RGs get recycled to hell with maybe just some slightly adjusted costs to "balance" them for their respective clan.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:19 UTC+1 No.71319592 Report

>>71319451
>but old decks can be viable! some have been given updates and are thus usable in current gen! and what would be stagnant about letting old decks still work, as long as new decks and new card additions were also balanced? it's not like everything has to always have 1500 atk at 4 stars or something. they've updated things like this before and it went super smoothly, because they added support for the old cards and balanced the new ones.

Think you nigger
Decks that have been given updates and are decent are made decent BY THE CARD THAT WAS GIVEN AS AN UPDATE

Often these cards completely change the playstyle of the deck

What is the difference between having a deck with new cards and new playstyle and updated one, you're still using new cards that do new things that are relevant in the current meta

The only difference is that you're playing a deck with cards that have a name in them that you like and art

If all new cards were updates to new themes, we'd eventually just drop all the old cards and use the same cards
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:20 UTC+1 No.71319647 Report

>>71319537
I mean really, 99% of non-g3 shit they push out is either a slightly adjusted version of an existing unit or a clone of a different clan's unit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:20 UTC+1 No.71319649 Report

>>71319475
Well I'm used to it now, but you gotta admit that pendulum summoning is pretty complex compared to xyz or synchros. Not that I mind, it looks like a cool mechanic.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:23 UTC+1 No.71319791 Report

>>71319647
Legionmates are relatively diverse.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:25 UTC+1 No.71319879 Report

>>71319451
why the fuck do you want to limit special summons that bad? the point of special summons is to subvert the once per turn clause of normal summons

you're sounding more and more butthurt over combo decks, tbh, which is basically you bitching about decks that get shut down if you disrupt its combo pieces. i brt you think infernities are unfair or broken

>burn doesn't need updates

yep you have no idea what you're talking about

> why can't the meta be multiple different decktypes and playstyles

because then players gravitate towards the optimal strategies, and the designers begin to work on trying to update other playstyles to catch up or cater to the optimal plays. have you ever played any competitive game ever?
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:28 UTC+1 No.71320045 Report

>>71319592
>Think you nigger
is it so hard to be civil when having a conversation where someone isn't in punching/spitting range of you?
>What is the difference between having a deck with new cards and new playstyle and updated one, you're still using new cards that do new things that are relevant in the current meta
the difference is balance. that's the only thing. You seem to be under the impression I despise any ol' update to the game, but the only reason I'm against xyz updates is really because they have unlimited summoning, their deck support typically works off of unlimited summoning/recycling. if they were limited to one xyz summon and two special summon per turn, it would be way more balanced.
>If all new cards were updates to new themes, we'd eventually just drop all the old cards and use the same cards
and there's no problem with cycling out. who uses any first deck cards now? no one, except for some original cards like dark magician which are popular/have been given updated decks to work off of. but they weren't immediately made irrelevant by the first update. they were cycled out after multiple updates that slowly ramped up the curve to engage balance, and the decks became a mix of first update, second update, etc, cards that were from all sorts of places and were always viable. xyz and synchro decks cycled everything before them out immediately.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:30 UTC+1 No.71320105 Report

>>71320045
Have you ever been on 4chan before? Are you 12 or something?
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)11:32 UTC+1 No.71320167 Report

>>71320045
You really need to go back to Pojo.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:34 UTC+1 No.71320261 Report

>>71319879
>why the fuck do you want to limit special summons that bad? the point of special summons is to subvert the once per turn clause of normal summons
because monster recycle decks annoy me. you cycle through monster after monster effect just to get to one specific one with an effect you like. many decks don't even limit what you're picking from - you can design decks that pick from deck, send to grave, summon or remove from play, effect, shuffle back in deck, any number of other ways, all to find one xyz effect that you can immediately summon to destroy a monster or clear out a m/t. all in one turn.
if the cards are evolving then why shouldn't this one aspect of the rulebook, when it's obviously being abused, except for the sole reason of that it makes konami more money to not limit it and let people overuse their new card type?
>yep you have no idea what you're talking about
thanks for explaining your opinion, it really helped me to take something from this conversation besides you're a rude person.
>because then players gravitate towards the optimal strategies, and the designers begin to work on trying to update other playstyles to catch up or cater to the optimal plays.
what is playtesting
what is beta period
>have you ever played any competitive game ever?
the only competitive games I've ever seen other people play were also not balanced and that's why people played them. there was a meta and everyone used it and I thought it was dumb because why even play if everyone is just going to use the same op stuff? so I tried to underdog it with non-meta, and to some extent I succeeded.
>>71320167
whats pojo
also why is everyone so aggressive about my opinion on their card game, be it informed or not in their opinion
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:36 UTC+1 No.71320337 Report

>>71320261
Playtesting you say?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:36 UTC+1 No.71320349 Report

>>71320045
you have NO idea how the meta works or the way extra deck monsters work

look ma, i have a hunder deck! i can shit out 5 monsters in one turn and xyz/synchro summon them into whatever i want, and recycle them the next turn! why am I not topping?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:38 UTC+1 No.71320412 Report

>>71320261
>why even play if everyone is just going to use the same op stuff
Because they enjoy the game, want to get good at it and play against other people who are good at it?
A large top tier isn't really needed in a competitive game, you know. Look at a lot of fighting games.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:39 UTC+1 No.71320448 Report

>>71320337
>designers are idiots
what a surprise. it's like this children's card game would actually be good if there were limited releases and small-set beta testing for the public, or if the card designers even knew their shit, and the way the game is right now isn't ideal
>>71320349
>you have NO idea how the meta works or the way extra deck monsters work
you seem to be making an argument...but I can't see where the evidence or support are...
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:40 UTC+1 No.71320507 Report

Are we being baited?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:40 UTC+1 No.71320515 Report

I know I have horrible luck, but when I lose game 1 to worms that's where I draw the line. What are you using in Geargia sides anyways?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:40 UTC+1 No.71320519 Report

>>71320507
Yes
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:41 UTC+1 No.71320531 Report

>>71320261
You are so full of shit. Its crazy.

I dont believe you actually ever played yugioh at a ''average'' tournament.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:42 UTC+1 No.71320582 Report

>>71320531
I never said I did.
>>71320412
and that's fine for them. I'm not disputing how anyone else wants to play, but I don't like doing it like that, and so I pursue a way that I can enjoy.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:43 UTC+1 No.71320607 Report

>>71320261
>because monster recycle decks annoy me
so you hate, what, gishki decks? the ritual monster deck?

and you realize you just admitted that you don't like a specific deckstyle because it "annoys you". holy shit, grow up.

also we're aggressive because you're literally a cancerous nostalgiafag who whines about the game evolving in a way you don't like. either you adapt to the changes or find a different game. hell, apparently bushiroad is to your liking, why not try it out?

>what is playtesting
yeah, i'm sure melee was extensively playtested too before release. or pokemon. and yet there's still definite tier lists and optimal plays and whatnot. hell, even supposedly balanced fighters have tiers, don't they?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:44 UTC+1 No.71320656 Report

>>71320582
>but I don't like doing it like that
Then play single player games or something where you can do whatever the fuck you want
Metas exist in competitive games for a reason
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:44 UTC+1 No.71320661 Report

>>71320582
Well, why dont you just fuck off and play something else?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:45 UTC+1 No.71320707 Report

>People using gemini monsters when they don't know what they do.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:46 UTC+1 No.71320726 Report

This OCG Gishki deck is fun
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:46 UTC+1 No.71320758 Report

>>71320582
you won't enjoy the game if you hate how the core mechanics of the game work

you can build the best rogue anti-meta whatever deck you want and you'll still get fucked in the ass by whatever top deck (or even tier 2 stuff), then you'll whine about it since it's obviously broken, right?

you could always run that anti-OCG deck being posted here. vanity's fiend, monarch storms forth, caius, that kind of good shit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:48 UTC+1 No.71320826 Report

>>71320726
did gishkis get any new toys?
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:51 UTC+1 No.71320957 Report

>>71320607
>holy shit, grow up.
I'm playing a card game. I'm an adult all day at work, driving in traffic, whatever the fuck else. I can have preferences and opinions.
>also we're aggressive because you're literally a cancerous nostalgiafag
a generalization made up about me in your mind, as a result of you not reading what I'm saying here. I love some new cards, I just don't think this new type is balanced and I don't want to use them.
>either you adapt to the changes or find a different game.
well look at that. here I am, trying to adapt in my own way, right as we speak.
>apparently bushiroad is to your liking, why not try it out?
I don't know that bushiroad is to my liking, but given that you've suggested it I probably will.
>hell, even supposedly balanced fighters have tiers, don't they?
yet again missing the point. tiers aren't the problem, having a meta isn't the problem. the problem is not being able to use anything except the meta, or the meta becoming overwhelmingly the only choice players make, because non-meta are too far below the meta in the tier.
>>71320656
>>71320661
sometimes I do play something else, and sometimes I play this. Right now I'm playing this. I'm here learning and finding new things and adjusting to the game, in the way that I most prefer.
>>71320758
> then you'll whine about it since it's obviously broken, right?
this assumption works off the idea that I care about winning or losing, which is wrong, because my endgame is to be competitive and feel like I did it in a way that was most optimal to my skillset and still not an abuse of the game in my opinion.
>vanity's fiend, monarch storms forth, caius, that kind of good shit
if it's good shit, I might like to.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:53 UTC+1 No.71321017 Report

>>71320957
>the idea that I care about winning or losing, which is wrong, because my endgame is to be competitive
I
what the fuck man
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:53 UTC+1 No.71321030 Report

>>71320957
>the problem is not being able to use anything except the meta, or the meta becoming overwhelmingly the only choice players make, because non-meta are too far below the meta in the tier.

Do you even know what meta is? Meta means you play that to be competitive you fucking retard

Why would you be surprised meta slaughters non meta its in the fucking definition
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:54 UTC+1 No.71321093 Report

>>71321030
But the meta shouldn't be so damn narrow that there's only one or two viable ways to play.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)11:54 UTC+1 No.71321105 Report

>>71321030
I'm not surprised. In fact, my problem with it is that it's boring. I suppose I'm mostly talking about the most top, non-variant meta though.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:55 UTC+1 No.71321132 Report

>>71320826

This card is a lot of fun.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:56 UTC+1 No.71321162 Report

>>71321105
Competitive games are boring if you don't get a kick from winning and improving
I thought that was common sense?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:57 UTC+1 No.71321221 Report

>>71320826
That one Level 1 fish bitch that searches out the Shark that searches out the other tutors.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:57 UTC+1 No.71321243 Report

>>71320957
then go play the way you like and don't whine to us if you aren't having fun fighting decks you don't like

also, it's not a generalization since you've consistently showed off all the hallmarks of nostalgia clouding your perception of the game, complete with "i like new cards too" defense.

you CAN use something that isn,t meta. no one's stopping you. we all have petdecks. the difference is most of us know our peteecks aren't necessarily the best, but we don't whine about how it's unplayable because x type is stifling our game. besides, part of being competitive is actually choosing cards that actually can be competitive, not choosing an arbitrary standard for what you consider acceptable and forcing us to conform to that
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:57 UTC+1 No.71321246 Report

>>71321132
>Competitive games are boring
/dng/ for heaven's sake.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:58 UTC+1 No.71321290 Report

>>71321221
>literally half the deck is searchers
>Gishkis are still inconsistent
How much more do they need?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:59 UTC+1 No.71321318 Report

>>71321246
>Quoting the wrong post
Meant for >>71321162
>>71321290
Another searcher which can work as 10 tributes. They have 6, they need 9.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)11:59 UTC+1 No.71321332 Report

>>71318302
guys pls
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:00 UTC+1 No.71321386 Report

>>71321290
i thought the problem was this point was that they didn't have much in the way of good ritual monsters to bring out already?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:00 UTC+1 No.71321390 Report

>>71321290
>>Gishkis are still inconsistent

That's what happens when you're fucking Rituals.

To be fair, Salvage is 100% broke in that deck. Like, if you resolve Salvage I honestly can't see how you could lose.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:01 UTC+1 No.71321424 Report

>>71321332
You would need to spend way too much money.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:02 UTC+1 No.71321454 Report

>>71321386
All you bring out is Zealgigas.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)12:02 UTC+1 No.71321456 Report

I see Euro /dng/ is still very much a thing, even without me being around.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:02 UTC+1 No.71321459 Report

>>71320957
Like i said, fuck off. No one wants you here.

Go to reddit and talk to them. I'm sure that they will be really nice to you.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:02 UTC+1 No.71321462 Report

>>71321318
Competitive games are by definition centered around improving your skills and win percentage
If you don't really care much for that then you won't enjoy competitive games
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)12:02 UTC+1 No.71321463 Report

>>71321162
Well sure. But I'm also not obsessive about winning. I try to improve every single time I play, and not just this, but anything,
>>71321243
>then go play the way you like and don't whine to us if you aren't having fun fighting decks you don't like
another imperfect perception. I'm not whining, I'm here looking for more optimal decks than low tier shit I'm using now.
>also, it's not a generalization since you've consistently showed off all the hallmarks of nostalgia clouding your perception of the game, complete with "i like new cards too" defense.
Imagine that, I said something in my defense that was typical of said defense. Nice slippery slope. I've stated my exact problem with these specific cards and you still can't get past your own made up bias that I MUST be lying and actually only dislike all new cards and just want to use old cards.
>besides, part of being competitive is actually choosing cards that actually can be competitive, not choosing an arbitrary standard for what you consider acceptable and forcing us to conform to that
every card should have the ability to be competitive, or else what's the point in having the card? I don't pride myself on building decks, I pride myself on using cards most skillfully, regardless of how strong or weak they are, to a given effect.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:02 UTC+1 No.71321479 Report

>>71321332
soon as i'll get home i'll post a pic of my gimmick puppets. not sure what your budget for that is though
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:04 UTC+1 No.71321541 Report

>>71321463
>I'm here looking for more optimal decks than low tier shit I'm using now
Then look at what fucking topped some recent big tournament and use that
Holy shit it's not hard
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:05 UTC+1 No.71321606 Report

>>71321541
>Holy shit it's not hard

My dick sure is though
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)12:06 UTC+1 No.71321625 Report

>>71321459
I hate reddit and everyone who likes reddit
thanks though. I understand you just want to help me and are trying your best, and you don't have all the info or know how about who I am, and I shouldn't expect you to know or understand everything about me until I tell you.
>>71321541
I do all sorts of things. I like opinions and what people say about specific things though. It characterizes decks and tells me about them, and sometimes I even make friends. Not often though. 4chan is and always has been a breeding grounds for misdirected anger and unneeded testosterone.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:06 UTC+1 No.71321638 Report

>>71321463
>i'm looking for optimal decks

and you can't use the optimal decks because you have this weird hang-ups over what cards you consider fair.

look, i honestly doubt we can help you. you're asking for the impossible here. you're like some guy asking how to beat march 2013 dragon rulers without using dragons or prophecy.

also, protip: most of the "skill" in TCGs go into deckbuilding and outpacing the meta. having the proper judgment call on when to play your cards and whatnot helps, but it can't mitigate poor card selection and deckbuilding
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)12:07 UTC+1 No.71321652 Report

>>71321463
Can you pleeeeeeeeeeease drop the holier than thou eloquent bullshit It's driving me insane and makes me think you're not a real person.

You can't be competitive without using the best shit. That's the entire point of being competitive. If you don't like how the competitive scene works, then you're not going to enjoy being competitive. You can't say "I want to play Geargia competitively" and then say "But I don't want to use Geargiarmor".

That shit doesn't work that way.

if you're playing competitively, you're playing to win, because you find winning with the best shit to be fun.

If you're just playing to have "Fun", then the competitive scene isn't for you.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:08 UTC+1 No.71321731 Report

>>71321652
>You can't be competitive without using the best shit
Then why aren't YCS top 16s all just one deck?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:09 UTC+1 No.71321758 Report

>>71321424
So it does have potential to be good?
>>71321479
Appreciated.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:09 UTC+1 No.71321764 Report

>>71321731
because the others are clearly oddish in disguise, duh
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:10 UTC+1 No.71321789 Report

>>71321764
Fuck you.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)12:10 UTC+1 No.71321791 Report

>>71321731
Because there is no "one best". There's a myriad of varied things that can be considered to be in the group of "The best".

Crystal Beasts will never be one of them.

This is why we have tiers.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:10 UTC+1 No.71321795 Report

>>71321731
They are in good formats.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:11 UTC+1 No.71321834 Report

>>71321758
i doubt it'll be good. you get to do fun stuff with RUM and strings and whatnot, but there's a reason it doesn't top
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:11 UTC+1 No.71321857 Report

>>71321791
>Because there is no "one best".
Of course there is. There is always an objective best deck.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:12 UTC+1 No.71321895 Report

>>71321789
no need to be rude...
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)12:12 UTC+1 No.71321905 Report

>>71321638
>and you can't use the optimal decks because you have this weird hang-ups over what cards you consider fair.
the most optimal decks without those weird hang ups of mine then.
>also, protip: most of the "skill" in TCGs go into deckbuilding and outpacing the meta. having the proper judgment call on when to play your cards and whatnot helps, but it can't mitigate poor card selection and deckbuilding
I agree, and because there's an amount of chance in each game, there's never an absolute about how well you do. Which is why I'm pursuing a build that is as good as it can be without working outside my arbitrary rules.
>>71321652
>Can you pleeeeeeeeeeease drop the holier than thou eloquent bullshit It's driving me insane and makes me think you're not a real person.
no.
>You can't be competitive without using the best shit. That's the entire point of being competitive. If you don't like how the competitive scene works, then you're not going to enjoy being competitive. You can't say "I want to play Geargia competitively" and then say "But I don't want to use Geargiarmor".
yu gi oh and xyz are not synonymous. I've strived in competitive gaming environments by winning with weaker equipment, sometimes simply because I'm a show off.
>if you're playing competitively, you're playing to win, because you find winning with the best shit to be fun.
I am playing competitively and I do not care about winning. I do not aspire to be casual or just have fun, I just also don't mind losing if it means I've gained experience and can be better next game. It's in having peace of mind like that that you can find your way to being victorious in spite of overwhelming odds.
I acknowledge how pretentious this sounds, but it doesn't keep it from being how I feel about things.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:13 UTC+1 No.71321924 Report

Banlist fucking WHEN
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)12:16 UTC+1 No.71322054 Report

>>71321905
>I just also don't mind losing if it means I've gained experience and can be better next game.
You've hit the end of your road, then.

You can't GET any better because you're putting road blocks in front of your progress. The SECOND you decide not to use a card because "It's too good" or "unfair" is the SECOND you stop being a competitive player and start being a casual whiny fuckball.

You're asking for us to help you improve without actually helping you improve, and you can kindly take your pretentious ass and fuck just, miles of off.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:16 UTC+1 No.71322081 Report

>>71321834
I didn't think or expect it to be topping anything.
I just thought it was funny how he said I would have to spend too much, kind of implying that as long as I had the dosh it could be good.
I just want the deck to be alright to compete against stuff like Spellbooks, Battlin' Boxers, Sylvan etc. since that's what the people around my locals are using.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:18 UTC+1 No.71322151 Report

>>71321905
>I am playing competitively and I do not care about winning.

fuck off
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)12:19 UTC+1 No.71322215 Report

>>71322054
sounds angry and unreasonable, and I don't think I will.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:22 UTC+1 No.71322324 Report

>>71322081
man if only that tripfag guy could be lick puppets guy here

anyway from my experience your best bet is to dump gimmick puppets asap into your grave, there't lots of stuff that lets you revive them easily that allow you to rank 8 stuff. the gimmick puppet dyzs are pretty usable, and you have that zombie xyz too.

you'll probably be going with OTKs most likely, which is supported by your boss monster (with RUM) being able to nuke shit and deal burn damage
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)12:23 UTC+1 No.71322381 Report

>>71322215
That's fine too.

Just remember that a random guy on the internet will always be better than you at a children's card game so long as you keep intentionally being a shitter due to your own misguided sense of "ethics" or "honor" or whatever the fuck.

Also Oddish is a shitty pokemon.
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oddish 06/20/14(Fri)12:24 UTC+1 No.71322459 Report

>>71322381
>Also Oddish is a shitty pokemon
now I am truly perturbed
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)12:26 UTC+1 No.71322523 Report

>>71322459
Deal w/ it nerd.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:28 UTC+1 No.71322610 Report

>>71321905
>I am playing competitively and I do not care about winning.
And yet there are still people that think EuroDNG is just an ebin meme.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:33 UTC+1 No.71322857 Report

>>71321221

Oh yeah, and this card. Fucking translations
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:39 UTC+1 No.71323132 Report

>>71322324
That's kind of the way I've set my deck up with foolish, 3 Scissor arms to dump stuff from the deck and I have Egg heads and One for One to dump dead cards in my hand like Feeler and Dreary doll.
Still have a few inconsistency issues though and I'm unsure if it's just Gimmick Puppets themselves being naturally inconsistent or if it's my deck building skills.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:41 UTC+1 No.71323238 Report

>>71322857
I'd use her if she was a Lv1 Tuner as well, so I could make Star Eater against stuff.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:46 UTC+1 No.71323438 Report

I really hope Stratos comes off the banlist so I can build a cheap deck. Since I'm about to sell my entire binder.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)12:48 UTC+1 No.71323517 Report

How does your typical side deck look like this format?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:54 UTC+1 No.71323732 Report

>>71323238
Why would you ever waste Zeal Gigas by turning him into fucking Star Eater? Oh and you're ignoring the fact that she is Abyss 4-6.
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)12:55 UTC+1 No.71323773 Report

http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/

LISTS UP, NERDS.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)12:55 UTC+1 No.71323779 Report

So anyone know if that guy talking about new cards the other day was full of shit? He said something about Machinas getting a Mezuki for Fortress.

I actually really hope it's true. And that it's level is at least 7 or 8. I'd really like to revisit Machina Puppets.

Also ban list when?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:56 UTC+1 No.71323856 Report

>>71323132
they're a bit of a pain to use, yeah. i'd suggest you use stuff like trade-in and machina stuff to give you options. the level 7 and 8 machina helps a lot in this deck, if you can get your hands on them
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:57 UTC+1 No.71323876 Report

>>71323773
Still way too early.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:57 UTC+1 No.71323890 Report

>>71323773
Sure it is.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:57 UTC+1 No.71323895 Report

>>71323779
>>71323773

>Heavy to 1
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:59 UTC+1 No.71323965 Report

>>71323876
Around what time should it be going up then?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)12:59 UTC+1 No.71323975 Report

>>71323965
When you suck my dick.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)13:00 UTC+1 No.71324005 Report

Guess I'll be going back to working on Shitter-Ups.

Fingers crossed for Magician to 2 next format.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:02 UTC+1 No.71324093 Report

>>71324005
>Expecting wind-ups to last two seconds against midrash
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:02 UTC+1 No.71324104 Report

I'm getting mad at Arc V's animu bug eyes. Why do some characters have them and others don't? Is it the mark of the protagonists? Some kind of command like "do porn about THESE characters"?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:03 UTC+1 No.71324113 Report

>>71323965
12ish? The baits should be around that time. Any time before that and you know they're full of shit.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)13:07 UTC+1 No.71324262 Report

>>71324005
>Literally just made this 2 minutes ago without seeing your post
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:08 UTC+1 No.71324310 Report

>>71323732
Star Eater against stall stuff, after using gigas of course. No point going for the OTK against Dimension Wall ;) and Scarecrow ;)
Abyss 4-6?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:09 UTC+1 No.71324368 Report

>>71324310
>Abyss 4-6?
Gishki Abyss copies 4, 5 and 6.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:09 UTC+1 No.71324398 Report

>>71324310
Zielgigas backed by Mound of the Bound Creator cannot be stopped by Scrap Iron Scarecrow.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:12 UTC+1 No.71324509 Report

>>71323856
>Trade-in
Goddamn I'm a retard, that's like the perfect card.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)13:15 UTC+1 No.71324652 Report

>>71324093
>midrash
That's a bit scary.

>>71324262
Neat
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:17 UTC+1 No.71324757 Report

Wind-Ups are shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:19 UTC+1 No.71324875 Report

>>71324757
Yep.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)13:20 UTC+1 No.71324914 Report

Pinpoint Guard is a cool card.

>Summon Abyss Dweller by using Shark and Magician
>Detach Magician to keep some hands in check
>Next turn opponent attacks
>Pinpoint Guard to bring back Magician while I have a rabbit Banished

I'm gonna buy a second Abyss Dweller. Shit's too good now.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)13:26 UTC+1 No.71325190 Report

Also "Qliphoth" is pronounced "Kleepote" like "Cleat" and "Potent".
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:31 UTC+1 No.71325440 Report

>>71325190
No, its pronounced "cliff-oth" you stupid fucker.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:38 UTC+1 No.71325794 Report

Heroes aint done yet
Coming soon: The level 8 DARK Masked Hero, Masked HERO Anki.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)13:39 UTC+1 No.71325816 Report

Fuck, it's just painful to look at the DN layout, a full hand of cards covering the extra deck makes me cringe
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)13:43 UTC+1 No.71325974 Report

>>71325440
You need to embrace the Jew.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:45 UTC+1 No.71326059 Report

to the guy who was asking about gimmick puppets earlier, sorry, I think I deleted my working deck. All I found was this old deck in my shitty account, and it fucking sucks

In terms of monsters this is what I would recommend, though, except for the excessive humpty dumpty (although it kind of lets me do rank 4 plays with gear gigant x). And the RUM card here is great - once per game, you get him back from the graveyard by basically pulling off any rank 8 play, which is what gimmick puppet shit is meant to do. This isn't a good build, though.

Limiter removal is also not that good here, and don't ask me why I have troar here, I think I was stroking hard with this old deck
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:45 UTC+1 No.71326063 Report

>>71325974
What does that even mean
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)13:46 UTC+1 No.71326117 Report

>>71326063
Qliphoth is a jewish word.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:50 UTC+1 No.71326284 Report

>>71326117
Are we speaking hebrew?
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)13:51 UTC+1 No.71326327 Report

>>71326284
Are you saying the word "Qliphoth"?

I bet you're one of those faggots that says "Muhsheenuh".
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)13:52 UTC+1 No.71326379 Report

Has anyone ever came up with a good strategy of having 41+ cards in a deck and basically stalling the game until the opponent runs out of cards, or is that pretty much impossible in the current game?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:01 UTC+1 No.71326730 Report

Hi guys, so I'm working on a Cyber Dragon-Artifact deck, it is working great so far, but I believe it needs a little tweaking here and there so here it is.

The things I thought of so far are: should make room for another upstart goblin, galaxy soldier is working great so maybe bringing it to 3 wouldn't hurt, Power Bond may help but if I put it in again I should also find space for at least 2 forbidden lances, was considering DNA Surgery + limiter removal.

Any ideas?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:03 UTC+1 No.71326780 Report

>>71325190
That's cool and all other than the fact that the Katana uses an 'f' sound. Fuck Hebrew, we go by what the japs say.

Konami is going to go Koa'ki Meiru on these guys.

Ku'lifoto
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:07 UTC+1 No.71326996 Report

>>71326379
Just play Ghostricks with Recurring Nightmare.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:08 UTC+1 No.71327020 Report

>>71326730
The moment your opponent drops majesty's fiend your entire deck rolls over and dies.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:09 UTC+1 No.71327064 Report

>>71326730
cyber eltanin doesn't sit well with me, does he have good synergies with cyber network and such?

I'm also iffy about your artifact ratios but hey if it works for you

Not sure if 1 instant fusion is worth it, you might as well drop it and upstart to throw lance in since you need protection badly since you have no backrow to speak of. Also, isn't Cyber Repair Plant crazy good for your consistency?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:09 UTC+1 No.71327084 Report

>>71326059
Thanks, I really appreciate the help from everyone.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:11 UTC+1 No.71327168 Report

>>71327084
no problem, I really fucking love gimmick puppets even if they're kinda shit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:12 UTC+1 No.71327247 Report

>>71326730
Storm Forth?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:15 UTC+1 No.71327354 Report

>>71326780
what does the sound a sword makes matter?
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)14:16 UTC+1 No.71327380 Report

What does a typical side deck look like, /dng/.
pls tell.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:17 UTC+1 No.71327440 Report

>>71327064

The ratio of the artifacts is quite random indeed, I haven't put to much thought in it.

Eltanin it's quite good, although I don't always use it, it saves games, plus actually it works way better with network since if you banish you can summon them right away (it can also be searched by cyber repair plant which is really useful)

Istant fusion is good, although you may be right and 1 may be too few.

Cyber repair plant it's good if you already have a cyber dragon in your grave, but it's not that easy to get to that point and once you have it you usally won't need it anymore, and anyhow if you really need you can search it with core (and you usally won't use it more than once per game anyway).
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)14:18 UTC+1 No.71327457 Report

>>71327380
LIM, SIM, IIW, Soul Drain
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:19 UTC+1 No.71327489 Report

>>71327247

I rely a lot on my extra and I don't tribute that much, how would you use it?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:20 UTC+1 No.71327506 Report

>>71321905
Dude your are at like 250 rating on DN. Just smash 40 random cards together with some backrow negation Trap Stun/Wire Tap/Bribe/Decree (pick your poison) to dodge their 3xCylinders/2xMirror Force/3xTrap Hole and you will win any game. Most people on that level dont either dont know the rules of ygo and play some shit deck without realizing that their effects dont work the way they think or they just play alexandrite beat because muh 2k beat.

Its literally a miracle to lose.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)14:20 UTC+1 No.71327537 Report

>>71327380
Anti-Shadoll shit. SIM, Nobleman of Crossout, Cursed Seal of the Forbidden spell. Anti-light shit for Nutellas and Artifacts is a good idea too.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:21 UTC+1 No.71327560 Report

>>71327020

Ally of Justice is enough actually and evilswarm hurt it quite bad too, but yes, that's what the side deck is for (don't mind the one in the picture, it needs to be updated)
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:25 UTC+1 No.71327719 Report

>>71314751
>Company wants to make money from their product
>FUCKING JEWS!

What did you think was going to happen? Shame you can't use the codes on the card to obtain them in the game like you could for other Yu-Gi-Oh games, but I suppose that would make it too easy to cheat since people would just look up the codes instead of only using the codes of cards they own.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)14:25 UTC+1 No.71327737 Report

>>71327537
>>71327457
Soo, like this?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:25 UTC+1 No.71327748 Report

>>71327489
to get rid of problem monsters

for example
>>71327020
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)14:26 UTC+1 No.71327780 Report

>>71327737
I don't have a side for OCG stuff, IDK if you're siding for TCG or not.

So sure.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)14:26 UTC+1 No.71327808 Report

>>71327737
I'd minus a nobleman for Macro, but that aside it looks like you hit the nail on the head.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)14:28 UTC+1 No.71327884 Report

>>71327737
Also why no IIW.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:30 UTC+1 No.71327990 Report

>>71327748

You're right, will side it, thanks
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)14:30 UTC+1 No.71327993 Report

>>71327884
Because Wind-Ups

It just doesn't function, Rabbit too big of a card.

>>71327808
Sounds good.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:33 UTC+1 No.71328082 Report

>>71327993
Get rid of mirror force those are worthless against satellas and shadolls.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)14:36 UTC+1 No.71328197 Report

>>71327993
I'm sure if you had to you could manage with Warriors and Sharks.

And you don't have to flip IIW until you're ready.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)14:36 UTC+1 No.71328212 Report

>>71328082
Hmm.. I like having that little extra bit of removal to compensate for the fact that the deck is otherwise shit and has a very hard time dealing with an established field.
Anyways, what would you suggest I replace them with?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:37 UTC+1 No.71328272 Report

>>71328212
wiretap
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:38 UTC+1 No.71328292 Report

>>71326730
While we're on the subject of cydra yolo.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)14:38 UTC+1 No.71328296 Report

>>71328212
Compulsory for one. Black Horn also has some merit though it's moot vs Shadolls, maybe Needle Ceiling. Wiretaps are also a good idea.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)14:41 UTC+1 No.71328492 Report

>>71328296
>>71328272
Well, I'll add a CED over one of them, and Wiretap or Seven Tools sounds like it might be helpful.

>>71328197
Well I could throw a pair in the side and see if it works out, what should I be dropping though? 1 of each mirror?
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)14:42 UTC+1 No.71328557 Report

>>71328492
Is Maxx even good for this format/next format?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:44 UTC+1 No.71328640 Report

>not playing Memory of an Adversary

Why are you all so bad?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:45 UTC+1 No.71328695 Report

>>71328640
enjoy it being dead when you really need it
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)14:46 UTC+1 No.71328709 Report

>>71328557
It just feels like something that should always be there, regardless of the meta.
I'm sure some shitter will be running around with Hieratics.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)14:48 UTC+1 No.71328773 Report

>>71328640
I don't enjoy getting smacked in the face when those lp are needed for noden.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)14:52 UTC+1 No.71328985 Report

>>71328640
I actually really like MoaA as a one-of. But the LP aspect makes it unattractive when Warning is so much better. If Warning ever gets banned, it's my back-up.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:03 UTC+1 No.71329583 Report

Verdict on Soul Charge for the next banlist? Will it go to 1 or 0?

I reckon 1 because muh recent set. Will be surprised if kept at 3 though.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:04 UTC+1 No.71329623 Report

>Konami finally made lifepoints matter a tad.
Hey it only took releasing cards with costs and decent effects.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:05 UTC+1 No.71329646 Report

>>71329583
I expect it to go to 1. I'm hoping we get some cool changes this time though, last list was shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:07 UTC+1 No.71329763 Report

I want to get into this.

I have no fucking idea where to start in this meta, and the help stuff in the OP is all out of date apparently.

So what should I do?
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)15:08 UTC+1 No.71329816 Report

>Open double factory, magician, and shark
That's totally fair.

I mentioned to him that I bet DDV is his favorite card and he got super pissy.

Ghostrick anything is terrible.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)15:10 UTC+1 No.71329892 Report

>>71329763
Answer the following question.

"What do you want to play?"
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:10 UTC+1 No.71329907 Report

>>71329816
That's a neat skin and wallpaper. Where get?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:11 UTC+1 No.71329976 Report

>>71329763
Read the thread faggot, the current meta is over everyone here is waiting for the next ban list to come out at any moment.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)15:11 UTC+1 No.71329987 Report

>>71329907
The YGOPro website has downloadables.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:13 UTC+1 No.71330037 Report

>>71329976
>at any moment
You mean in two weeks?
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:14 UTC+1 No.71330112 Report

>>71329987
Does it? I never noticed. Probably because I never sat on it for longer then two seconds to download the game.

>>71330037
It's supposed to come out today man.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)15:15 UTC+1 No.71330141 Report

>>71330112
Right here.
http://www.ygopro.co/tabid/95/g/posts/t/734/-SKIN--YGOPro---Ancient-Egypt-Theme.aspx#post3539
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)15:15 UTC+1 No.71330163 Report

Oh, also, for Side Decks.

If you can drop a 2000 atk DARK.

Preferably from your Extra.

Triple DDV goes in everything.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:16 UTC+1 No.71330190 Report

>>71329892
I don't know how anything plays at the moment.

I like Synchro if that's viable (and I'm pretty sure it isn't), and also decks that get out small useful stuff fast.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:16 UTC+1 No.71330214 Report

>>71330112
>It's supposed to come out today
Says who? We've never had a banlist hitting in the middle of a month. And the TCG banlist isn't published in any monthly magazines so why wouldn't they reveal the list one week before it'll apply like they always do?
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)15:16 UTC+1 No.71330229 Report

>>71330141
hurr, download link is ded.
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celestialPilot 06/20/14(Fri)15:18 UTC+1 No.71330283 Report

>>71330190
>Synchros
>Small useful stuff fast
Thunders!
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:18 UTC+1 No.71330310 Report

>>71330214
Someone said something about Konami couldn't drop it until vjump spoiled the OCG one. And now that they have, they have no reason not to.

It made sense, but it could definitely be false information.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)15:19 UTC+1 No.71330351 Report

>>71330229
Ohh, nevermind, it has two links and one works.
Neat
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:20 UTC+1 No.71330383 Report

>>71330310
That rule used to apply but it's gone totally out the window.
The last two banlists were revealed on the 19th and the 13th, respectively.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:23 UTC+1 No.71330514 Report

>>71330163
>Every deck has been capable of black corn drops for a long time
>Nobody sides this
>Goes in everything guys!
Viruses are good cards but going into a sub par monster just to make you virus live is retarded and you deserve your shit getting night beamed if you do.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:25 UTC+1 No.71330607 Report

Well, we'll know
If the banlist isn't coming today, it isn't coming for at least another two weeks or so
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:26 UTC+1 No.71330687 Report

>>71330607
The ban list may not be coming in the next 2 weeks, but I am.
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)15:34 UTC+1 No.71331090 Report

Stardust Crusaders anime confirmed for 4-cour.

Get Hype!


https://twitter.com/anime_jojo/status/479965937144057856
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Sightoo 06/20/14(Fri)15:35 UTC+1 No.71331143 Report

>>71331090
4-cour?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:36 UTC+1 No.71331201 Report

>>71331143
>Doesn't know how to google
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:48 UTC+1 No.71331819 Report

>>71331090
Jesus fucking christ, we won't be finished for more than a goddamn year.

Imagine how long part 4 is gonna take.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:51 UTC+1 No.71331931 Report

>????????? Toranpu Wicchi (Trump Witch)
>DARK
>Pay 1000 Life Points, this card can attack all monsters with the same Attribute as it.

>She’ll appear in Episode 26 of the Arc-V Anime!

>Her creator is ????, a girl(?), from the Kanagawa Prefecture.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:53 UTC+1 No.71332040 Report

>>71331931
Also, new HERO mat.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:53 UTC+1 No.71332046 Report

>>71331931
So it's shit?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:55 UTC+1 No.71332140 Report

>>71332046
Most of the Design-A-Monster Contest monsters ended up being shit.
I think Drill Warrior was the only one that ended up being relevant from the Design-A-Monster Contests.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:55 UTC+1 No.71332149 Report

>>71331931
>a girl(?)
Confused people in charge of making good cards. Though to be fair the "attack everything" effect is mostly unexplored in this game. We have Susanowo... And that's it. No other attack all card has been popular as far as I know.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:56 UTC+1 No.71332239 Report

>>71332040
Neos doesn't deserve to be at the center. His phony clone did more than he ever did.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)15:57 UTC+1 No.71332283 Report

>>71331931
>shes dark
>she can yolo through a full shaddoll field
shes gonna be OP
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:57 UTC+1 No.71332297 Report

>>71332140
Wasn't Dragon Ice one of those? He's neat.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)15:59 UTC+1 No.71332371 Report

>>71332149
Asura Priest.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:00 UTC+1 No.71332426 Report

>>71332297
Dragon Ice was from the Yu-Gi-Oh! Design Your Destiny Card Contest, which was actually hosted in America instead of Japan like all the other ones were.
But yeah, Dragon Ice sees a bit of play.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:00 UTC+1 No.71332427 Report

>>71330283
>goldfish over kage
>white cards
It's shit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:01 UTC+1 No.71332486 Report

>>71332371
When was Asura Priest popular?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:01 UTC+1 No.71332512 Report

>>71332486
She's basically a staple in Goat Control.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:04 UTC+1 No.71332639 Report

>>71332512
>she
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:06 UTC+1 No.71332734 Report

>>71332639
Did he stutter?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:08 UTC+1 No.71332859 Report

>>71331931
That drawing better be the same when I get the card or I'm going to be salty.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:10 UTC+1 No.71332936 Report

>>71332859
The actual art is always somewhat different than the drawing.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:14 UTC+1 No.71333152 Report

For the folks that want to test out flying evil Jews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la6pirnIjdc
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:16 UTC+1 No.71333259 Report

>>71333152
>Fabled Shadoll Furanimals
why
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:18 UTC+1 No.71333341 Report

>>71333259
If I could be high enough to make 60 card shaddolls then I don't see why not.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:18 UTC+1 No.71333395 Report

Who the fuck is this Oddish person and am I supposed to hate him yet?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:19 UTC+1 No.71333456 Report

>>71333395
It's just the average scrub that thinks Synchros and Xyzs are the devil's work.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:20 UTC+1 No.71333521 Report

tfw outskilled some weird hieratic lightsworn shaddoll deck in ygopro

sephy's a nice beater and all but he doesn't do anything if you're not OTK enough it seems
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:24 UTC+1 No.71333663 Report

>>71333152
Every deck he dueled was complete shit. I am not impressed. At least picking for real cherries shows himself sacking against good decks.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:25 UTC+1 No.71333758 Report

>>71333663
Fuck the video, the download links are the important part.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:26 UTC+1 No.71333764 Report

>>71333663
>Every deck he dueled was complete shit.
Welcome to YGOPro.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:26 UTC+1 No.71333767 Report

>>71329583
Considering this is Konami we are talking about they will probably keep it at three for another list and rather ban popular Soul Charge targets completely.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:27 UTC+1 No.71333850 Report

>>71333758
To duel against who? The ai? Don't make me laugh
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:28 UTC+1 No.71333890 Report

to everyone testing out dark law in shaddolls, do you think he's not worth running?

Walking macro cosmos and all is great, but I feel like I never really needed him in testing, and my losses are usually tied to me opening mask change second without being able to pair him with midrash

You lose way too many resources to go for dark law in my experience, basically. Feels like a winmore card. And I know it might sound crazy, but someone told me exodius was winmore in shaddolls, but it really doesn't feel that way to me. Am I just crazy?

I'm just waiting anxiously for Dark Renewal to give shaddolls some more stunshit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:32 UTC+1 No.71334079 Report

I still remember when Shadolls were being revealed and everybody here was going
>lol so shit monster useless effects badly designed why not just copy geargiarmoreff
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:32 UTC+1 No.71334105 Report

http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/

Okay guys I know there have been trolls earlier but it's legit up right now
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:33 UTC+1 No.71334156 Report

>>71333456
Synchros are. Long live Xyz!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:34 UTC+1 No.71334167 Report

>>71334105
Fuck you
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:37 UTC+1 No.71334347 Report

>>71334079
Let's be fair here. I remember reading once "has more effects than a Yugioh monster card" and Shadolls may be the posterchild of that. It feels like you can't minus yourself unless you try, and this is a fusion deck, which makes it worrying. Konami really wanted Shadolls to be good.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:38 UTC+1 No.71334406 Report

>>71334167
Haha, dumbass.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:39 UTC+1 No.71334460 Report

>>71334347
Plus on removal seems to be their thing now days, Dragon Rulers did well enough so why not continue with it?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:43 UTC+1 No.71334626 Report

>>71333395
He has 250 rating, plays burn and thinks its a honorable deck and noninteractive decks are skillful.

Synchros and XYZ are too op for his honorful way of playing because you can special summon inifnitely often.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:44 UTC+1 No.71334690 Report

How to beat Shaddolls:
1. Don't let them hit the grave (D Fissure, Macro)
2. Prevent Flip effects (Royal Command, Skill Drain)

If you establish either early on, shaddolls wilt
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:46 UTC+1 No.71334827 Report

>look at OCG tournaments for shits and giggles
>expect nothing but shadolls
>see a fuckload of Tella's with a bit of Shadolls
What the fuck is wrong with OCG?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:48 UTC+1 No.71334918 Report

>>71334690
the flip effect stuff only matters if they don't open with any of the following: shaddoll fusion, el-shaddoll fusion, and a combination of hedgehog +fts. If they have like arma knight and other mill options like foolish burial or, again, fts, they can still recover fusion cards

the second option, meanwhile, fucks over most decks, unless you're specifically anti-meta or that new pendulum tribute archetype

it's better to use SIM and other stuff that interferes with their advantage-generating effects longer, while maining decks that aren't cockblocked by Midrash's special summon restriction or have ways around it
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:48 UTC+1 No.71334934 Report

>>71334827
Shock Master Seraphs are strong bro.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:48 UTC+1 No.71334948 Report

>>71334827
Seraph stick too good.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:49 UTC+1 No.71335004 Report

>>71334827
shock master stronk

also it's a yolo format and overlords just realized star seraphs are degenerate I guess?

seriously though: shock master stronk. If stellarknights have shock master in the TCG I'd call them best deck too
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:53 UTC+1 No.71335184 Report

>>71334934
>>71335004
Completely forgot about Shock Master.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:53 UTC+1 No.71335214 Report

Unban meeeeee
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:56 UTC+1 No.71335367 Report

>>71335214
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:57 UTC+1 No.71335453 Report

>>71335367
literal "restart the entire game" cards are totally fair and balanced in a game without resources other than cards and LP like yugioh
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)16:59 UTC+1 No.71335561 Report

>>71334934
>>71335004
>>71335184
I'm debating buying shit tons of shock masters on the off-chance they bring him back for nutellas.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)16:59 UTC+1 No.71335580 Report

>>71335367
>flip
Real talk, if it has limited, would people run it? Look at fucking magician of faith
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:01 UTC+1 No.71335661 Report

>>71335580
Shadolls would.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:01 UTC+1 No.71335704 Report

>>71335580
are you comparing magician of faith with fucking fiber jar just because they are both flips?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:02 UTC+1 No.71335723 Report

>>71335561
shock master is as likely to come back as stratos

which is to say, it would be neat, but i wouldn't get my hopes up

come to think of it, you wanted pretty much a cock master to give rank 4 decks a turn1 play right
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:02 UTC+1 No.71335770 Report

>>71335704
Did I stutter?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:03 UTC+1 No.71335790 Report

>>71335723
Giant hand is nice, but cock master is much better turn 1
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:04 UTC+1 No.71335825 Report

Why are you people so convinced the banlist is coming out tonight?
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)17:04 UTC+1 No.71335887 Report

>>71335723
Naw. Not something as powerful as shock master. More like giant hand.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:06 UTC+1 No.71336010 Report

>heroes strike is out tomorrow
You ready for HERO meta?
E
R
O
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:07 UTC+1 No.71336042 Report

>>71336010
>YERO
Good job
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:08 UTC+1 No.71336116 Report

>>71336010
Heroes aren't going to be meta until they get Prisma 2.0 in Next Challengers
At that point they'll have 4 Stratos
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)17:12 UTC+1 No.71336341 Report

>>71336010
>Stratos is at 0 in TCG
Good luck with that.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:12 UTC+1 No.71336351 Report

>>71336010
>There will never be a good FIRE Masked HERO
>Goka is so mediocre that he isn't even in the HERO mat.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)17:13 UTC+1 No.71336421 Report

>>71336351
Fire doesn't deserve anything good after Rekindling, Fire Hand, Bear, and Blaster ;)
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:21 UTC+1 No.71336832 Report

>>71334690
>shaddoll player sides in typhoons and royal decrees like a smart person game 2
>stomp you into oblivion
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:21 UTC+1 No.71336894 Report

>>71336010
Looking for a vacation, fucko?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:22 UTC+1 No.71336941 Report

>>71331931
I like it.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:22 UTC+1 No.71336947 Report

>>71335453
No, they really can't be.

Mtg's version is even more broken.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:25 UTC+1 No.71337136 Report

>>71336947
what's MTG's version like, and how is it utterly broken?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:25 UTC+1 No.71337140 Report

>>71334690
Different dimension ground is OP as fuck against them, stops all their plays for a turn and I'm pretty sure you can chain it to the fusion to banish the materials.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:25 UTC+1 No.71337186 Report

>>71337136
MTG's version leaves some of your enchantments on the field, so you can still have a full field and wipe your opponents board and refresh your hand.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:26 UTC+1 No.71337205 Report

>>71337136
http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Timetwister
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:26 UTC+1 No.71337213 Report

>>71336894
No I hate France
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:26 UTC+1 No.71337240 Report

Banisher of the Dawn
xyz generic rank 4
2100/1500 Light/Fairy
Once per turn, during either player turn, you can detach 1 xyz material from this card; any card sent to to the graveyard this turn is banished instead.
If this card is removed from play: target any number of banished monster card; return them to the graveyard.

How did i do, dng?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:27 UTC+1 No.71337283 Report

>>71337136
Either Shahzard or like Timetwister.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:30 UTC+1 No.71337475 Report

>>71337240
Make it 2400.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:30 UTC+1 No.71337479 Report

Is the new ban list out yet?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:30 UTC+1 No.71337520 Report

>>71337240
How about fuck you
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:31 UTC+1 No.71337563 Report

>>71337283
Wow. Was this ever legal?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:31 UTC+1 No.71337569 Report

>>71337479
yes
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:31 UTC+1 No.71337579 Report

http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Bazaar+of+Baghdad
>strictly better graceful charity
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:32 UTC+1 No.71337643 Report

>tfw try and use the qliphoths from the earlier linked video
>doesn't let me Special Summon my own Qliphoths that are in the extra deck
>fuck ups in the cards.cdb file that make furnimals and qliphoths in general unplayable

Thanks. I mean it's cool that we get to kind of play with them somewhat, but really there's no way to actually use these as they are.

Precious Cards from Beyond is a Qliphoth secret tech. Don't steal it, /dng/.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:33 UTC+1 No.71337710 Report

>>71337579
how is draw 2 discard 3 better than draw 3 discard 2?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:34 UTC+1 No.71337734 Report

>>71337710
It's not draw 2, it's search any 2, discard 3
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:35 UTC+1 No.71337815 Report

>>71337734
well that changes everything
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:37 UTC+1 No.71337961 Report

>>71337563
You have no idea how many dumb cards MtG already had.
When someone come with a really stupid idea for YGO in those create a card shit, you can bet that MtG already tried it.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)17:39 UTC+1 No.71338105 Report

>>71337961
WTB Griselbrand for YGO.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:42 UTC+1 No.71338339 Report

>>71337734
Would anything even run that other than solitaire? That -2 is a killer.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:43 UTC+1 No.71338429 Report

>>71338339
D R A G O N S
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:44 UTC+1 No.71338431 Report

>>71338339
you must be joking
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:44 UTC+1 No.71338462 Report

>>71338339
Are you kidding?
It searches literally anything. It sets up grave. It's fucking insane.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:45 UTC+1 No.71338516 Report

>>71338339
isn't that a land, too? So it's technically +0

except, you know, you tutored two cards
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:47 UTC+1 No.71338696 Report

>>71338462
>>71338431
The two cards would have to win you the game right there.
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)17:51 UTC+1 No.71338940 Report

Yes, I'm not alone!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:51 UTC+1 No.71338943 Report

>>71337734
>{T}: Draw two cards, then discard three cards.
Idiot
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:51 UTC+1 No.71338958 Report

>>71338696
most deck are reliant on opening 1 or 2 certain cards. In geargia you can get armor and gear. In reddolches you get angelly and ticket. In Bujins you get yamato and I guess crane
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:54 UTC+1 No.71339137 Report

>>71338958
But you spent 4 cards getting that. I can't think of too many 2 card combos worth the investment.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:55 UTC+1 No.71339173 Report

I bet the faggot saying we'd be getting the banlist today feels really stupid now
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:56 UTC+1 No.71339271 Report

>>71339137
90% of the time if you can open with armor with gear and 2 other backrow you will win
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:58 UTC+1 No.71339420 Report

>>71339173
I bet you feel really stupid for giving the benefit of the doubt
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)17:59 UTC+1 No.71339509 Report

>>71339420
I never even once thought we'd be getting the banlist before July.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:02 UTC+1 No.71339745 Report

>>71339173
I didn't realize today was suddenly over.
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)18:08 UTC+1 No.71340153 Report

http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/

LISTS UP, SCRUBS.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:08 UTC+1 No.71340170 Report

Question, does Pendulum Summoning cards in the Extra Deck count as summoning from the Extra Deck?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:09 UTC+1 No.71340190 Report

>>71339745
They usually don't post lists that late unless there's something big going on (like worlds).
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:09 UTC+1 No.71340228 Report

>>71340153
Nice screamer faggot
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:10 UTC+1 No.71340285 Report

>>71340228
Is screamer your nickname for his mother?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:12 UTC+1 No.71340387 Report

>>71340153
On the filter you go.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:12 UTC+1 No.71340413 Report

>>71340190
It's not even fucking afternoon yet.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:15 UTC+1 No.71340594 Report

>>71340413
It is on the least shitty coast.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:15 UTC+1 No.71340602 Report

>>71340413
>tfw Konami's TCG base is in the west coast
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:18 UTC+1 No.71340786 Report

>>71340413
It is on the only coast that matters.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:20 UTC+1 No.71340997 Report

>>71339509
Look at the ban list page now
>UPDATED: 3/19/2014
You sure feel retarded now that you realized the last ban list went up the month before it actually did
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:27 UTC+1 No.71341426 Report

>>71340997
Because last format started at 4/1, the first day of the April.
July format will start at day 14.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:27 UTC+1 No.71341458 Report

>>71340997
That banlist was for April 1st.
This one is for July 14th.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:42 UTC+1 No.71342650 Report

>>71332239
Neos is cool.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:43 UTC+1 No.71342671 Report

>>71342650
Nope.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:44 UTC+1 No.71342743 Report

>>71342671
Yeah. He's new HERO that arrived from Neo-Space.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:46 UTC+1 No.71342946 Report

>>71339137
Electrum OTK
Hand Geargia Chain Material OTK
Chair + Stick in Star Seraphs gives you ridiculous plus and is practically a wincon

Probably great in Infernity as well.
If the discard is after the search, you could run it in Dark World and Shadoll to turn it into a searching plus, it's pretty much a stronger better hand fixing Foolish
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:53 UTC+1 No.71343393 Report

do yellow monster cards even exist anymore?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:54 UTC+1 No.71343458 Report

>>71343393
There are yellow monster cards? :^0
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)18:55 UTC+1 No.71343497 Report

>>71343393
Sure, anything with Rescue Rabbit uses them.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:56 UTC+1 No.71343602 Report

>>71343497
speaking of, it's time for Rabbit to go to 3 again
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:59 UTC+1 No.71343794 Report

my favorite card is thousand dragon, is it good?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)18:59 UTC+1 No.71343804 Report

>>71343393
There's Agents/Hieratics/Evilswarm to some degree.

>>71343602
Don't care if most of the Rabbit stun is dated but I don't think I wanna deal with more piles of anti-fun. Because that's all Rabbit supports/makes viable.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:00 UTC+1 No.71343849 Report

What if generic fire king XYZ that destroys it's mats to get the effects?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:02 UTC+1 No.71344043 Report

>>71343849
you can't destroy mats, senpai
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:02 UTC+1 No.71344047 Report

I really hope we get more Battle Pack 3 news.
I wanna know what reprints are in it and what the ten new cards are.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:03 UTC+1 No.71344048 Report

>>71343849
What if no.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:08 UTC+1 No.71344390 Report

>>71344043

You can destroy cards in your hand and in your deck, I don't see why not
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:08 UTC+1 No.71344436 Report

>>71343804
>Not wanting anti-fun
It's like you hate skill or something
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:22 UTC+1 No.71345459 Report

>>71344390
Because those still count as physical cards.
Xyz Mats don't count as physical cards anymore.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:25 UTC+1 No.71345717 Report

>>71345459
>Xyz Mats don't count as physical cards anymore.
That's so dumb. At least it explains how Absolute Zero doesn't work when ARK'd.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:27 UTC+1 No.71345894 Report

>>71344043
If the card says destroy mats, you destroy mats.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:28 UTC+1 No.71345938 Report

>>71345717
Once sent to the evil Xyz zone, they aren't cards and aren't on the field, which is why they don't trigger stuff like Absolute Zero and Tengu or whatever.
They become cards again after they hit the grave/banish zone.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)19:29 UTC+1 No.71345972 Report

>>71345717
It's even more hilarious when you realize XYZ materials are more "removed from play" than "removed from play" cards.

It's kinda funny how they had to rename it "banish" when the removed from play zone started to become a second graveyard.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:32 UTC+1 No.71346213 Report

>Shadoll Lizard is corrupted Satellaknight Unukhalai
>both send a card from the deck to the graveyard
>TCG exclusive Shadoll is corrupted Satellaknight Sirius
Shadolls about to get Avarice on legs.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:39 UTC+1 No.71346734 Report

>>71346213
>Expecting TCG exclusives to be good ever again.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:40 UTC+1 No.71346863 Report

>>71346734
What was the last good TCG Exclusive anyways?
Obedience Schooled?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:41 UTC+1 No.71346916 Report

>>71345459
God I can't stand how Xyz materials are treated.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:41 UTC+1 No.71346936 Report

>>71346734
Sylvan Princessprout.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:41 UTC+1 No.71346945 Report

>>71346734
but
FUCK YOU: The Archetype
It could have a Medraut level card for one of its first cards, right?
Right?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:43 UTC+1 No.71347031 Report

>>71346863
Abyssteus if we are talking about cards that actually had impact.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:43 UTC+1 No.71347106 Report

>>71345972
I don't think that's why they renameit. I'm sure they only renamed it because it's retarded to have such a long string related to a nameable mechanic, something mtg learned years ago and konami seems to only just be putting into practice. I don't know why we don't have mill yet.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:46 UTC+1 No.71347304 Report

>>71346213
I don't play yugioh but you guys sound like the hugest virgins.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)19:50 UTC+1 No.71347661 Report

>>71346945
I'm still expecting one of two things for this archetype:

A. Shit effects with cool art, like NKs
B. Decent effects with shit art to PG it up because muh religion

Either way I am preparing to be disappointed.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)19:57 UTC+1 No.71348264 Report

Do you think you could beat Kevin Tewart in a Goat Control shadow duel?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:08 UTC+1 No.71349214 Report

>>71348264
I didn't play yugioh 8 years ago, what was Goat control exactly?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:08 UTC+1 No.71349231 Report

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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)20:08 UTC+1 No.71349246 Report

>>71349214
The one with goats and control.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:09 UTC+1 No.71349302 Report

I will never understand why this card is SCR.

Only 1 janky deck can shit it out.

Any other weird shiny TCG premieres to discuss
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:11 UTC+1 No.71349453 Report

>>71349214
The most skill-intensive format of YGO that has ever existed.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:12 UTC+1 No.71349519 Report

>>71349302
It's part of the 'archetype' with these things and Moon Dance Ritual.
It looks like the TCG had this as an archetype-idea but wanted more space for Noble Knights halfway. Ironically, it fits perfectly in Kevin Tewart's ideal world where card advantage doesn't matter, because some kind of swarm engine for these things could lock your opponent out pretty efficiently.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:13 UTC+1 No.71349627 Report

>>71349302
sup
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:14 UTC+1 No.71349671 Report

>>71349519
>>71349302
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)20:15 UTC+1 No.71349785 Report

>>71349231
>http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Bazaar+of+Baghdad

300+ Card. What the fuck.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:16 UTC+1 No.71349814 Report

>>71349519
>swarm
PENDULUM
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:17 UTC+1 No.71349896 Report

>>71349671
> mfw somebody saved my CaC
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:21 UTC+1 No.71350290 Report

>>71349785
It's an old as fuck card, staple in certain decks, and on the Reserved List, so it can't be reprinted.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:26 UTC+1 No.71350608 Report

/dng/ is about to start our virtual soccer game
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:26 UTC+1 No.71350652 Report

>>71350608
Nobody cares.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:27 UTC+1 No.71350732 Report

HERO's Strike is going up on DN now.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:30 UTC+1 No.71350957 Report

>>71350608
What?
>>71350732
Sadly all that it really means is that shaddolls get a macro.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:31 UTC+1 No.71351090 Report

>>71350957
d-did I stutter?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:32 UTC+1 No.71351135 Report

>>71350732
Neat.

Time to make the MCS variants of shit
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RD4 06/20/14(Fri)20:35 UTC+1 No.71351361 Report

>>71350957
>Sadly all that it really means is that shaddolls get a macro.

Welp time to play TCG only. Fuck that noise.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:35 UTC+1 No.71351375 Report

>>71349896
I tried coding them in Lua but holy fuck there's nothing in the game that's like getting effects off of being revealed in hand that I could copy off of.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)20:35 UTC+1 No.71351431 Report

>>71351361
It won't matter come August. And we will get the HERO shit eventually.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:39 UTC+1 No.71351730 Report

>>71351375
oh, you're coding anon? long time no see, was that your only problem? Maybe the 7th one is something you could use?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:41 UTC+1 No.71351838 Report

>>71351375
Try golden ladybug
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:44 UTC+1 No.71352079 Report

>>71351730
I'm not, I'm SFC.

I spent a day a while back trying to learn how to code Lua, specifically for the purpose of trying out custom cards, but it's a bit harder than I thought it'd be considering I have no other programming knowledge. I tried this Siren archetype too, but I've been kind of lazy and only ever finished one card, and even then it was only half of the effect since I haven't figured out how to do the "When this card is targeted for an attack" portion of the effect.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:45 UTC+1 No.71352160 Report

>>71352079
Take that code from kuris
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:46 UTC+1 No.71352265 Report

>>71351838
I can't do those because you manually activate them, but the Fairies are Trigger effects, and I have no actual basis for it.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:48 UTC+1 No.71352408 Report

>>71352265
>Golden Ladybug is also a trigger
Damn I'm stupid, in any case I think I might be able to replicate it now with the card. Just replace the Standby Phase requirement with being revealed, and the rest should be fine.

>>71352160
I'll try that.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:49 UTC+1 No.71352462 Report

How do I D R A G O N S, dng?
Hoban said this was the best deck, but I just got raped by some shitty geargia player.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:49 UTC+1 No.71352513 Report

>>71352408
did the other ones work out, though? Or did you start with the middle row? I figure the top row should be fairly easy.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:50 UTC+1 No.71352583 Report

>>71352462
You actually have to think, which is why you might be having problems with it. If you banish loads of shit immediately then you'll just lose.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:52 UTC+1 No.71352684 Report

>>71352513
I wanted to start off simple, so I only tried coding in Snake. Then I hit the snag that was, "How am I going to code this if nothing else in the game works like that, having to be revealed in order to activate its effects?"

So I just gave up entirely, since the top row would be useless without the rest of the cards, and went onto Sirens.

The top row looks easy enough to do honestly but I just don't really want to do so unless I know I can do the others.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:55 UTC+1 No.71352943 Report

>>71352684
This is the first time I've ever agreed with /dng/'s extra to 20 thing.

Damn
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:57 UTC+1 No.71353126 Report

>>71352943
>Kamikaze

For what purpose?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:57 UTC+1 No.71353137 Report

Mountain jews blown the fuck out
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:57 UTC+1 No.71353196 Report

>>71352943
Fuck you then.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)20:58 UTC+1 No.71353271 Report

>>71352943
why would you want to run Kamikaze?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:01 UTC+1 No.71353516 Report

>>71353271
>>71353126
because it's a really good card that can cover the cost of mask change second straight away?
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Swifts 06/20/14(Fri)21:01 UTC+1 No.71353526 Report

good night
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:02 UTC+1 No.71353571 Report

>>71353526
Fuck you too.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:04 UTC+1 No.71353736 Report

Which one's the best mat?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:05 UTC+1 No.71353854 Report

>>71353516
I dunno, but a wind-attrib Nova Master that actually stops your opponent from kicking your Gustos doesnt sound that amazing. It's a -2 having to activate Mask Change 2 in the first place, you'd have to destroy at least 2 monsters to cover the cost, which is hard in a removal-based meta like this.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:09 UTC+1 No.71354192 Report

>>71353736
Kaiba, because he's looking at you in disappointment for having such a shit deck
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:11 UTC+1 No.71354374 Report

>>71353736
do you get these at ComicCon London or what?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:12 UTC+1 No.71354451 Report

>>71354374
>Alter Reality Games
>(Cordero) The Official Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME (TCG) revealed some con exclusive play mats. Are you planning to attend YGO Day, San Diego Comic Con, or Gen Con? Check out these exclusive mats that you can only get at these events!
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:15 UTC+1 No.71354679 Report

>>71352583
>dragons
>thinking
topkek
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:18 UTC+1 No.71354915 Report

>>71354679
>Being this unenlightened
Talk to me after you've meditated under a waterfall, degenerate.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:22 UTC+1 No.71355252 Report

H E R O
E
R
O

tin/summoner into mist, search change, summon king, search kage, set change, DP on opponents turn change into dark law, search dude. overall go +2, 6 cards in hand, 2 on the field.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:24 UTC+1 No.71355474 Report

>>71355252
and you decided to stuff all that other junk in there why exactly?
> 1 shining
lel
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:26 UTC+1 No.71355624 Report

Gishkis suck because you have to dedicate half your deck to summon monster that's maybe barely better than other archetype's boss monsters. And those monsters can be summoned with far less effort.

And to make it worse, gishkis lack any searchable protection, are severely constrained by the 1 normal summon per turn limit, and have no alternate play besides gishki beast, which is only "searchable" by an outdated flip effect monster.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:27 UTC+1 No.71355694 Report

>>71355624
> Gishkis suck because you have to dedicate half your deck to summon monster that's maybe barely better than other archetype's boss monsters.
This is Rituals in general.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:29 UTC+1 No.71355943 Report

Ban list should be coming out today right?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:30 UTC+1 No.71356047 Report

>>71355694
Other rituals are even worse off since they don't have an abyss/salvage->shadow/vision->ritual engine
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:30 UTC+1 No.71356082 Report

>Activates Heliopolis
>Tell him to detach and tribute what he wants
>He tributes only one
>Ask him if he's sure about tributing only one
>"I want to tribute more but you can chain"
>Tell him that's how it fucking works
>He tributes 3
>Flip chain
>he picks back up what he tributed
>Calls me a noob, proceeds to SS Tidal and try to activate his effect after I Prison it

Lovely DN low rated duels.
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Marzipan 06/20/14(Fri)21:31 UTC+1 No.71356169 Report

>>71355943
Seems like it was just shit speculation.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:32 UTC+1 No.71356218 Report

>>71356082
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:32 UTC+1 No.71356236 Report

>>71355252
>Sabatiel
>Destiny HERO shit
>Form Change
>1 Mask Charge
>no real traps
Really?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:34 UTC+1 No.71356372 Report

>>71355943
Another two weeks at the very least.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:35 UTC+1 No.71356502 Report

I'm still trying to figure out good ratios for everything. I kinda want to make the deck more than 40. What do you guys think?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:35 UTC+1 No.71356513 Report

>>71356236
sabatiel can be triggered by diamond dude, and diamond dude is the best thing shadow mist can search because of destiny draw.
form change is a fucking otk machine, what the hell are you talking about?
what's wrong with mask charge?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:36 UTC+1 No.71356629 Report

>>71356513
How do you actually plan to summon Dark Law if Kingremlin isn't a HERO?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:36 UTC+1 No.71356653 Report

>>71356513
Nothing is wrong with mask charge
But there's definitely something wrong with ONLY RUNNING ONE COPY OF IT.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:43 UTC+1 No.71357245 Report

okay yeah sabatiel is utter shit dead draw
new idea time
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:48 UTC+1 No.71357754 Report

>http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
ENVOY OF END TO 1
REBORN TO 1
MYRMELLO TO 1
HANDS TO 2
BOTTOMLESS TO 2
TORRENTIAL TO 2
TENGU TO 3
ROTA TO 3
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:49 UTC+1 No.71357858 Report

>>71357245
>retard doesn't read dark law
oh and I added call
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:50 UTC+1 No.71357943 Report

>>71357245
> goblindbergh
> nova master
> 1 shining
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:51 UTC+1 No.71357990 Report

>>71357754
If you put the bait in the post you aren't going to catch anything, you have to reply to yourself with that block of green text.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:51 UTC+1 No.71358026 Report

>>71357245
>>71357858
You're fucking retarded
The only good thing about heroes now is potential dark law abuse

To keep dark law on the field you need traps
To make dark law quickly you need to maximize draw, as in upstart, duality, 3x mask change the second, etc

Your deck and ideas are shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:51 UTC+1 No.71358052 Report

>we will never get a format as good as unlimited dragons
;_:
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:52 UTC+1 No.71358089 Report

>>71357754
>people still b8ing
THE BANLIST ISN'T COMING OUT TODAY
IT'S COMING OUT IN TWO WEEKS
FUCKING IDIOTS
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:52 UTC+1 No.71358134 Report

>>71358026
>Mariomon is retarded
More news at 11.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:53 UTC+1 No.71358176 Report

>>71358089
ITT TYPE IN CAPS TO SHOW HOW YOU'RE AN EDGY FAGGOT

Text in all caps looks fucking disgusting.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:53 UTC+1 No.71358220 Report

>>71358052
>one deck formats
>good
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:53 UTC+1 No.71358223 Report

boring thread
post stupid
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:55 UTC+1 No.71358356 Report

>>71358026
what's your dn name?
I think your low capability of imagination is making it so you don't understand how the deck works.i'd love to duel you and show you. we can make it a shadow duel too if you want
hosting
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:56 UTC+1 No.71358396 Report

>>71358223
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:56 UTC+1 No.71358403 Report

>>71358026
>3x Mask Change The Second

Nah.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:57 UTC+1 No.71358482 Report

>>71358356
Atomic Niggermare
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)21:58 UTC+1 No.71358562 Report

>>71358396
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mariomon 06/20/14(Fri)22:00 UTC+1 No.71358720 Report

no one, huh
I guess that guy is just a pussy
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:00 UTC+1 No.71358753 Report

>>71358403
My bad, I meant 3x mask change. But the rest of the post is still valid.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:01 UTC+1 No.71358815 Report

>>71358562
let's hope this one never gets forgotten
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:01 UTC+1 No.71358817 Report

>>71358753
>3x Masketta Change

Meh, sure. That sounds more right than 3x Mask Change Second in the HERO deck at least.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:01 UTC+1 No.71358857 Report

>>71358396
This is a stupid question, but is that not right? Or does it destroy the card before you synchro?
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mariomon 06/20/14(Fri)22:02 UTC+1 No.71358928 Report

so is anyone gonna shadow duel me or what?
this would be a great chance for me to never post on /dng/ again
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:02 UTC+1 No.71358936 Report

Thinking on dropping the field for more stun.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:03 UTC+1 No.71358969 Report

>>71358720
>A pussy
It's more that I don't gain anything by playing you. I don't care about your or dng's opinion of me, particularily when I'm an anon, and if you can't actually make a counter argument other than 'b-but muh imagination', then I'll just go back to filtering you.

Nerd.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:03 UTC+1 No.71358995 Report

>>71358815

>>71358857
it is right
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:03 UTC+1 No.71359004 Report

>>71358928
>Magic or Pokemon only

I'd rather join that shadow duel.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:04 UTC+1 No.71359057 Report

>Use Australian IP
>Get this
10/10 Konami
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:05 UTC+1 No.71359121 Report

Is it that time already?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:05 UTC+1 No.71359163 Report

>>71358995

>>71359057
> moraltach
not even trying
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:05 UTC+1 No.71359169 Report

>>71359057
>Moralltach spelled wrong
Seems legiti
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:05 UTC+1 No.71359172 Report

>>71359057
Terrible fake. 3/10 made me reply
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:06 UTC+1 No.71359185 Report

>>71358562
wait what does happen?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:06 UTC+1 No.71359204 Report

>>71359057
Nice missing L on Moralltach, dipshit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:07 UTC+1 No.71359302 Report

>>71359185
You can't respond to Laggia with Fiendish Chain, since Laggia is a Quick effect.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:07 UTC+1 No.71359338 Report

>Transmuting a Tolaria West into a Slaughter Pact to kill Iona
fuck that is skilly
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:08 UTC+1 No.71359345 Report

>>71359163

>>71359185
first reply is correct
>>71359302
and this is bait
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:08 UTC+1 No.71359360 Report

>>71359302
w-what?
is this bait?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:09 UTC+1 No.71359452 Report

>>71359204
>>71359169
>>71359163
>jadge.png
>implying Konami can spell
Check the site,it's legit
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:09 UTC+1 No.71359456 Report

>>71359057
nice shoop
>>71358969
upstart is really ehh, it'd probably work out with summoner monk but I don't like
duality is too prohibiting
the way i'm doing it (trying to special summon mist as early as possible) is much more consistent than the shit with a hero lives and bubbleman.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:10 UTC+1 No.71359532 Report

>>71359345
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:10 UTC+1 No.71359595 Report

>>71359452
Shut the fuck up.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:12 UTC+1 No.71359754 Report

>>71359452

What are you accomplishing by making people check the website? It seems pretty pointless unless you get off to the fact knowing someone went to a website (which people do all the time anyway)
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:17 UTC+1 No.71360213 Report

>>71359532

>>71359754
it's amusing, don't be a sourpuss
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:18 UTC+1 No.71360351 Report

Is Pixiv down or my net is sucking a billion dicks as usual?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:19 UTC+1 No.71360396 Report

>>71360213
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:20 UTC+1 No.71360440 Report

>>71359456
How is upstart ehh, it just lets you get to what you want faster and more consistently
Duality also does this. It doesn't matter that you can't ss because you can just summon on their turn.

I didn't say anything about AHL or bubbleman.
You also still have no ecalls.
You're maining mst for some reason?
Call isn't optimal the way you're doing it because if you dump shadow with chain it's still delaying you a turn and depends on you having call -- AHL may actually not be that bad, thinking about it.

If you're commiting to the chain play why the fuck are you not playing soul charge over call.
Rainbow kuri is shit.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:22 UTC+1 No.71360676 Report

>>71360396
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:24 UTC+1 No.71360889 Report

>>71360676
I'm out
hope you enjoyed
make me some more
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:28 UTC+1 No.71361257 Report

Where's the screencap of ugly Tomo going full retard about inzektors?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:28 UTC+1 No.71361308 Report

Yay or nay?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:29 UTC+1 No.71361332 Report

>>71361257

>>71358815
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:30 UTC+1 No.71361440 Report

>>71361308
mechanic is awful in simulators and even more in real life
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:33 UTC+1 No.71361756 Report

>>71358815
how is he wrong tho
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:34 UTC+1 No.71361769 Report

>Perfect Heraldry Art
>Normal Spell
>Target 1 "Heraldic Beast" monster you control and 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field; Special Summon 1 Rank 4 Xyz monster from your extra deck and attach the targeted monsters to that monster as an xyz material.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:34 UTC+1 No.71361819 Report

>>71361769
Yes please.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:35 UTC+1 No.71361885 Report

>>71361756
first reply is correct, Dragonfly is holding Hornet in place
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:36 UTC+1 No.71362048 Report

>>71361885
he can't activate hornet in that situation?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:37 UTC+1 No.71362151 Report

>>71361308
They're all terribly written.
The pictures are all poorly cropped.
And their effects look boring as fuck to even read.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:37 UTC+1 No.71362165 Report

>>71362048
read the reply
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:39 UTC+1 No.71362352 Report

>>71362165
don't tell me what to do
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:40 UTC+1 No.71362395 Report

I want the evil jewish spaceships to get tuners and a couple of level 8 synchros that are also pendulums.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:40 UTC+1 No.71362432 Report

>>71362352
then don't ask to be spoonfed
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:41 UTC+1 No.71362502 Report

this is the most dngs i've seen on in months
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:41 UTC+1 No.71362553 Report

>>71362432
I'll spoonfeed you this dick, fagaroo
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:42 UTC+1 No.71362650 Report

How bad am I?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:44 UTC+1 No.71362809 Report

>>71362502
who the fuck are you?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:44 UTC+1 No.71362865 Report

>>71362395
>Pendulum Effect: You can use cards in your Pendulum Zones as Tuner Monsters, using their Pendulum Scales as their levels.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:45 UTC+1 No.71362920 Report

Someone gimme vampires
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:45 UTC+1 No.71362952 Report

>>71362809
>Doesn't know how to find a username when given a jpg like this
How new are you?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:45 UTC+1 No.71362959 Report

if my opponent activates mst targeting my CoTH, and I chain CoTH targeting shadow mist, do I get shadow mist's special summon effect?
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:48 UTC+1 No.71363189 Report

>>71363147
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:48 UTC+1 No.71363191 Report

>>71362920
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)22:48 UTC+1 No.71363230 Report

>>71362959

Yes.
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Anonymous 06/20/14(Fri)23:36 UTC+1 No.71367536 Report

>>71358223

Someone post that photo of the retard who accidentally cut up his ArtiSanctum set by opening the package with scissors.
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