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Recommended SRPGs Anonymous 09/08/14(Mon)23:39 UTC+1 No.1923902 Report

New to the genre. What are some must play titles?
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)00:35 UTC+1 No.1924032 Report

FE 4 and 5 are great. I hear Shining Force is fun too.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)00:53 UTC+1 No.1924090 Report

>>1923902
Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre. Obviously Final Fantasy Tactics.

Chaos Gate for the PC
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)02:05 UTC+1 No.1924228 Report

>>1923902
Are there localized retro Fire emblems?
Like for NES/snes or are they only super famicom?
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)02:22 UTC+1 No.1924276 Report

>>1924228
The GBA games are all localized sans Sword of Seals, which has a fan translation patch. Most other games are translated, give it a google and you'll find which ones are completely done.

Also, play Bahamut Lagoon and Langrisser/Warsong.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)02:24 UTC+1 No.1924287 Report

>>1924276
Will do. I'm not OP btw, other FE games always interested me since I've only played the GBA one.

Still have to play warsong, I've got that badboy CIB.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)02:30 UTC+1 No.1924307 Report

>>1923902
Arc The Lad. The localized versions are all in one great big collection because Working Designs, and you can use the save file from the previous game to help you in the next.

Also if you're a /m/an get some Super Robot Wars. Here's a pastebin from /m/'s general about translations circa August 2014: http://pastebin.com/WzpqDvq4
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)02:37 UTC+1 No.1924327 Report

Apart from the usual Fire Emblem, Shining Force I, II and III are also great. SFIII Scenario 2 and 3 have 99% complete translations as well, along with some minor story fixes to Scenario 1.

If you hate JRPGs with a lot of WORDS like Golden Sun, avoid III. GS wasn't Camelot's first extremely wordy game.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)02:42 UTC+1 No.1924349 Report

>>1923902
fft
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)03:14 UTC+1 No.1924453 Report

Jagged Alliance 2
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)03:20 UTC+1 No.1924475 Report

Would Advance Wars be considered a SRPG? Probably not, but still great.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)03:22 UTC+1 No.1924480 Report

So this is one of those threads where I got beat to the punch and everyone listed all the games I like.

OP, you've been given good choices here, and I want to give a special shoutout to FFT for its job system.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)03:23 UTC+1 No.1924481 Report

>>1924475
Haven't played it in years but I'm pretty sure there were no RPG elements in Advance Wars.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)05:27 UTC+1 No.1924753 Report

>>1924228
Shadow Dragon was a FE1 remake.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)06:45 UTC+1 No.1924923 Report

>>1923902
Shining Force 2 is great. Through it, I fell in love with strategy RPGs.

Final Fantasy Tactics is usually considered a must.

I've heard great things about Front Mission. It's sci-fi instead of fantasy, though I've never played it myself it could be a good change of pace.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)08:20 UTC+1 No.1925062 Report

I'm very excited to try some of these games. I love turn-based tactical combat, but haven't been able to find many entries in the west beyond the obvious ones (X-COM, Silent Storm, Jagged Alliance). I'll be sure to check out the jrpgs listed here.

But one quick question. For some reason I really love games with lots of side-quests and optional material. Are there any SRPGs you know of that fit that description?
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)14:29 UTC+1 No.1925454 Report

>>1925062

if you're okay with crazy anime stuff the whole Disgaea series fits the bill really well. Massive amounts of side quests and post-game content.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)14:38 UTC+1 No.1925467 Report

Langrisser II
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)14:57 UTC+1 No.1925486 Report

Fire Emblem: Monsho No Nazo
Fire Emblem: Seisen No Keifu
FEDA: The Emblem of Justice
Shining Force II
Vandal-Hearts
Final Fantasy Tactics
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)15:29 UTC+1 No.1925525 Report

>>1925486
>Fina Fantasy Tactics
>Disgaea

These are some entertaining picks. If you try them and don't like them then you probably wont like anything else in this thread.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)15:36 UTC+1 No.1925530 Report

If you're new to SRPGs a good next step would be Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword for GBA which has a built-in tutorial in its story and is overall a good game.

In my opinion the five best SRPGs are Fire Emblem 4, Shining Force II, Vandal Hearts, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Der Langrisser.

Nippon Ichi makes a lot of SRPGs but they are an acquired taste; play Disgaea in some way, shape or form and decide from there whether you'd be interested in the rest.

Other SRPGs you can try:
Fire Emblem (series)
Super Robot Wars (series)
FEDA: The Emblem of Justice
Vanguard Bandits
Front Mission (series)
La Pucelle Tactics
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 1/2
Valkyrie Profile: Convenant of the Plume
Namco x Capcom
Shining Force 1
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Luminous Arc (series)
Langrisser (rest of series is JP-only)

Note that a lot of SRPGs are just about grinding, not particularly reliant on strategy. If you want something that really forces you to think try Fire Emblems 3-6 and the Front Mission games. If you're masochistic try Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth.

Finally, this isn't a very big genre, so there isn't a ton of essential games. You get what you can. Fire Emblem, FF Tactics and Disgaea are considered the pillars of the genre today.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)15:42 UTC+1 No.1925537 Report

>>1925530

Oh, I forgot to mention the Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre series, Kartia: The Word of Fate, Jeanne D'Arc, Wild ARMs XF, Saiyuki, Suikoden Tactics, Pokémon Conquest, and Zone of the Enders (GBA). Valkyria Chronicles is also a fun game that blends SRPG tactics with TPS combat.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)15:56 UTC+1 No.1925554 Report

>>1925530
more than half of this crap is not retro
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)16:15 UTC+1 No.1925584 Report

Is there anything like Advance Wars that isn't advance wars? I like the resource war and creating units.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)16:19 UTC+1 No.1925589 Report

>>1925584
Not an SRPG.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)16:20 UTC+1 No.1925592 Report

>>1925584
Advance Wars is part of the "Famicom Wars" series. There's a fuckton of games in the series.
That only matters if you know moon, though.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)16:24 UTC+1 No.1925604 Report

>>1925584
Battle Isle
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)16:29 UTC+1 No.1925610 Report

>>1925584

If you really like Advance Wars you might want to go into strategy games like XCom. There's some games like Blue Wing Blitz that are similar, but JP-only.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:04 UTC+1 No.1925661 Report

Can you guys recommend any other SRPG's where your party can consist of generic units?

Games like FFT and Tactics Ogre, you get story characters dotted in but if you wish you can make a team of all generics and upgrade them as you go. Bonus points if you can recruit monsters or any kind of class-changing.

Also as a sidenote, I've tried so many times to like Shining Force but the inventory system of char-only storage always gets me, does it ever get easier?

Thanks, tactics games are some of the few that I can still enjoy and I fear I've run out.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:08 UTC+1 No.1925670 Report

>>1925661
X-Com?
>hurr x-com not rpg
But it counts as one in the end
There are levels to be earned, abitilies to be learned and inventory to be managed
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:18 UTC+1 No.1925682 Report

>>1925661

play age of wonders series, new one is great
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:21 UTC+1 No.1925689 Report

>>1925661
Most Nippon Ichi games fit your request (Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Makai Kingdom, Soul Nomad, etc), but they are not retro.

How about Ogre Battle and Ogre Battle 64? You're already familiar with the Ogre series, so...

Oh, there's also Hoshigami on the PS/DS, but it's not that good, in my opinion.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:23 UTC+1 No.1925692 Report

If you can get your hands on a Saturn, the Shining Force III trilogy is fantatic
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:26 UTC+1 No.1925696 Report

>>1925689

Yeah, I've played all of them, Kartia aswell. I fear there just aren't that many games out there, it seems that strategy games that have an all story-character cast are more popular.

That being said the Langrisser series did it right with all the class changing, but I find I always go back to the blank-slate roster games.
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:36 UTC+1 No.1925716 Report

>>1925696

I could not be remembering it correctly but I think Eternal Eyes fits the bill
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Anonymous 09/09/14(Tue)17:48 UTC+1 No.1925730 Report

>>1925682
You should really play the first, then the second and SM. I couldn't' really get into III personally.

That said, if you haven't yet you could see how TBS games treat you like AoW and HOMM. They aren't the same but they have a lot of the same appeal.
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Anonymous 09/10/14(Wed)23:27 UTC+1 No.1929268 Report

>>1925682
>>1925730
Fun fact: the original is now on sale in GOG.
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Anonymous 09/11/14(Thu)02:04 UTC+1 No.1929676 Report

>>1924923
Shining Force 2 is my favorite sRPG ever. Had it a Sega-PC port bundle.
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Anonymous 09/11/14(Thu)02:07 UTC+1 No.1929695 Report

>>1925661

>Also as a sidenote, I've tried so many times to like Shining Force but the inventory system of char-only storage always gets me, does it ever get easier?

Nope, but you can transfer items you don't want to to characters you are never going to use in battle.

Speaking of Shining Force, I heard Shining Force CD is the best title of the series.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)04:21 UTC+1 No.1932053 Report

>>1929695
SFCD is pretty awesome. I just wish Final Conflict was in it.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)04:26 UTC+1 No.1932073 Report

>>1929695
>I heard Shining Force CD is the best title of the series.

Nah, that would be Shining Force III - Scenario 3.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)04:34 UTC+1 No.1932097 Report

>>1923902
Gorky 17 (Odium) for the PC
Fallout Tactics

And a little known game called Saiuki: Journey West for the Playstation that is similar to the FF Tactics series.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)04:37 UTC+1 No.1932109 Report

>>1925661
Military Madness for the Turbo Grafx16 (PC Engine) is a good one. They remade it for the Wii as well.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)04:39 UTC+1 No.1932114 Report

>>1925584
Military Madness for the Turbo Grafx16. Recently remade for the Wii.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)07:57 UTC+1 No.1932417 Report

>>1925530
>Note that a lot of SRPGs are just about grinding, not particularly reliant on strategy. If you want something that really forces you to think try Fire Emblems 3-6 and the Front Mission games. If you're masochistic try Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth.

On that note, in my opinion, Wild Arms XF is one of the best and incredibly underrated SRPGs ever made. It has great plot and characters, a unique class system, and actually requires strategy rather than grinding. One of the hardest and most rewarding games I've ever played.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)08:44 UTC+1 No.1932468 Report

>>1923902
FE: Awakening is a terrible SRPG. If you liked it please disregard this post.

- Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 is my favorite, the level design is awesome and gameplay rewards strategy while still being simple and fast-paced. You need to play FE4 first, which is a good game itself (but not a particularly strategic SRPG).
- I also recommend Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (specifically the PSP remake). The storyline is excellent. If you like it, also try Final Fantasy Tactics (PSP remake w/ slowdown fix patch).
- Langrisser II is another of my personal favorites. The Mega Drive version has the best gameplay and soundtrack (I prefer that version), while the SNES version Der Langrisser has better story (including branching routes). Also try Langrisser IV (Saturn) if you like the series. The first game (called Warsong) is rather primitive and not very good.
- The Front Mission series has good stories and decent gameplay. FMII is my favorite so far but I hear the fifth game is the magnum opus of the series (I haven't played it yet).
- I've yet to play Super Robot Wars since I don't watch much mecha, but it's a fairly popular series.
- Someone also mentioned the SMT: DS games, which I also like. They aren't retro, though.
- Avoid the Disgaea series if you want to play SRPGs for their strategy element. Awful level design, awful game balance, awful story. Only worthwhile if you feel like grinding endlessly.
- I like Shining Force because I grew up with it, but objectively it's quite a poor game. The gameplay is simple but slow, tedious, and too random. SFII is even worse, especially in terms of story. Still, I hear SFIII is a big improvement.

>>1932417
>Wild Arms XF
Sounds interesting, but I've never played a Wild Arms game. Would that be an issue?
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)08:53 UTC+1 No.1932475 Report

>>1932468
>Sounds interesting, but I've never played a Wild Arms game. Would that be an issue?

Nope. Completely stand-alone, and totally different gameplay.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)17:01 UTC+1 No.1933124 Report

Summon Night is really good.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)21:19 UTC+1 No.1933538 Report

Shining Force
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)22:39 UTC+1 No.1933675 Report

>>1929676
>>1924923
Shining force 2 fag here too
>>1932468
SFII isn't bad at all, it is completely grinding based, but the music is amazing, the graphics are amazing, the promotions are amazing, the charac design is amazing, the bosses are amazing, tons of hidden characters, I don't think it's a poor game at all.
SFIII improved the gameplay leaps and bounds but the atmosphere isn't the same at all.
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Anonymous 09/12/14(Fri)22:41 UTC+1 No.1933679 Report

>>1932468
>Avoid the Disgaea series if you want to play SRPGs for their strategy element. Awful level design, awful game balance, awful story. Only worthwhile if you feel like grinding endlessly
The story is great, the level design is great too, are you high ?
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Anonymous 09/13/14(Sat)04:16 UTC+1 No.1934418 Report

>>1933675
>SFII isn't bad at all, it is completely grinding based

Isn't it hard to grind in SFII?
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Anonymous 09/13/14(Sat)04:21 UTC+1 No.1934436 Report

>>1934418
Not really, but I don't really see how it's grinding based anyway. Unless you're on the higher difficulties you can play it straight through.
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