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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)17:48 UTC+1 No.15161189 Report

The last thread discussing the effects of Fluoride on the pineal gland got deleted as it was getting interesting, a few people were asking so guess we will continue the thread here.
Anyone else here had any experiences with Fluoride? Is it as safe at they say it is? Anyone here came off Fluoride and noticed any difference lets get try getting to the bottom of this
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)17:51 UTC+1 No.15161193 Report

>>15161189
Google it, flouride is good for your teeth, but poison for your body, and it stores in your pineal gland, you dont want that..
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)17:52 UTC+1 No.15161197 Report

Also I mainly made this thread for the people that were interested in the meditation practices I used in conjunction with the removal of Fluoride from my diet.
Anyone from the old thread if you need I can be contacted at erzlock@hotmail.co.uk I'll walk you through some foundation practices I found very helpful.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:01 UTC+1 No.15161213 Report

Always hated floruide and the people who are for it are just submitting to their masters.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:01 UTC+1 No.15161214 Report

>>15161189
>Brain sand, calcification of the brain
>calcification of pineal gland
>hypothyroidism
>infertility
>kidney damage
>other major organ damage
>fluoride causes teeth damage if injested, it is meant to go on the surface of teeth, not inside your body

Do you need anymore reasons to get it out of your system?

>experiences
Extremely lucid dreams, meditation visuals are extremely epic compared to when I had average level of fluoride in my system
>Take iodine, Lugol's Solution Iodine

There are many studies on the cons outweighing the pros, the government refuses to listen to even the scientific community at this point.
>Originally, it was meant to reduce cavities, it's been proven with studies it was COMPLETELY unnecessary, cavity rates where already lowering without fluoride introduction into the water system.
>Only works if it goes on the surface of teeth, not inside you body
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:02 UTC+1 No.15161217 Report

>>15161193
That is the conclusion we were coming to however it's one thing to read about something and it's another do go out and get experience on something.
A lot of people seem to be on the fence one group of people say its terribly bad for our minds and it is the cause of many modern brain diseases such as alzhiemers, while also contributing to the lack of spiritual awareness in our lives through the calcification or the gland that is truly a door to the higher realms.
Others pertain the idea that this is all conspiracy talk by nutjobs in tin foil hats and that it is nothing more then something we put in our water to protect out teeth.
What I'm more interested in is if anyone on this board has done there own experiments by removal of fluoride from the diet and if any differences were noted.
Myself I have been off it for 10 months now in conjunction with meditation and have had a range of experiences that confirmed my own beliefs however one persons word means nothing beyond the individual.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:05 UTC+1 No.15161227 Report

>>15161214
Yes I also reduced it as much as possible from my diet, I wanted to add that I have been having regular dentist check ups and so far it has been 10 months and my teeth have remained cavity free and healthy.
However I am a pretty healthy person in general I don't mind the occasional soft drink with lunch however you won't find me chugging 2ls of coke a day and I don't eat alot of sugary candies so that may be a contributor.
Plus I still brush my teeth morning and night with a fluoride free toothpaste alternative
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:05 UTC+1 No.15161228 Report

>>15161214
I have removed most of it from myself and have noticed positive results. How can I become completely free of it though? It seem to be in everything.

I looked on Wiki at Lugol's Iodine and it says it is toxic, how do I use it safely?
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:06 UTC+1 No.15161232 Report

>>15161227
I was looking for a fluoride free alternative in my drug store. I found none. What brand do you use and where did you find it?
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:11 UTC+1 No.15161243 Report

>>15161228
There isn't alot you can do apart from removal from diet, it can be absorbed through your skin when you shower, in the food you eat (any foods that needed water as an ingredient breads/cakes/pasta etc) and toothpastes are the main culprits.
However the drinking water and toothpaste are the main contributors to fluoridation the amounts in food are negligible.
It is the drinking water that should be first addressed.

It is also hypothesised that meditation seems to break down the de calcification process quicker as it actively engages the pineal gland and stimulates DMT excretion.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:14 UTC+1 No.15161251 Report

>>15161232
Most drug stores do not have alternatives (what a surprise)
There are alot of products online, myself I use a brand called toms and maine.
The water I drink is called Nobles PureAu but I'm not sure if it can be found outside australia but it's quite cheap here it only cost be on average $10 a week for pure drinking water.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:15 UTC+1 No.15161252 Report

>>15161214

>this post brought to you by someone who never finished college.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:18 UTC+1 No.15161261 Report

>>15161252
>This post brought to you by someone who is currently undergoing a chemical lobotomy so they can easily submit to there superiors
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:19 UTC+1 No.15161267 Report

I'm off to sleep, will check back on thread later if its still up
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:20 UTC+1 No.15161272 Report

>>15161261

>implying while wearing a tinfoil hat

This is the reason you're the joke board of 4chan /x/.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:20 UTC+1 No.15161273 Report

>>15161217
Oh yeah I have more experiences too, my original one's >>15161214 were just generalized... since u want more I'll list a few

Intuition is highly sensitive, getting intune with exactly how that works (I now get intuition feelings on everything I do lol)

Syncing groups of people's consciousness with my own when in close proximity to them; I have to either just talk or concentrate/meditate
>They literally comment about feeling high without any intoxicants when I do this

Many many other things

>>15161227
Good to hear man!
Same here, I barely ever drink cola or anything high in sugars too, just lost the desire to partake in that anymore.

>>15161228
Well first is just taking iodine everyday, that will speed up the process of de-calcification.
>A few drops
>Do not take vitamin c till at least 2 hrs after you have taken iodine, it can counteract some of the effects

There are many foods that have iodine in them already:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=69

>>15161252
You made me laugh!
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:22 UTC+1 No.15161280 Report

>>15161273

You post like a tripfag, and your shits all retarded
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:38 UTC+1 No.15161323 Report

Im thinking about a special diet to activate my full potential. What do you think of Spirulina?
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:41 UTC+1 No.15161329 Report

>>15161232
Heh many options. Eco-dent, Probiodent, and Uncle Harry's. For an actual paste option you have Squigle, CTX, and most designed for children.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:42 UTC+1 No.15161331 Report

>>15161243
>>15161251
Thanks for the tips anons. I may just make the toothpaste myself. My water is fairly pure, I got a reverse osmosis system but it is very hard to install. Right now I just got all the parts in my bathroom. Is the calcification even reversible though? I know the damage it does to teeth and other parts of your body is permanent.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:43 UTC+1 No.15161335 Report

>>15161243
>ingredient breads/cakes/pasta etc
You shouldn't be eating these anyways, and should especially be avoiding any non-herbal teas.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)18:45 UTC+1 No.15161339 Report

>>15161331
In the past threads I pointed out using turmeric and K2-MK-7. K2, 45mcg/day prevents calcium deposits in soft tissue, 90+mcg can reverse it as long as there is enough vitamin A in the diet.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)19:17 UTC+1 No.15161418 Report

>>15161339
I will look into that, hopefully that and clearing up all my water and no toothpaste will totally cleanse me.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)19:49 UTC+1 No.15161505 Report

>>15161339
legit man thank you, I've been looking at it, and I'm definitely going to pick some up.

Also check out Vitamin D3, it seems to work in conjunction to the K2, to help your circulation; and apparently is widely regarded in a few books to heal previous injuries.
>I believe it works on the same concept of sun-gazing (look up studies, some mind-blowing changes if used correctly), though I'd rather not risk damaging my eyes and the sun mostly provides different vitamin D's with different UV radiation (UVB, UVC mostly, UVA is dangerous...)
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)19:51 UTC+1 No.15161510 Report

I'm off of anything with flouride for over 2 years now. Nothing changed.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)19:55 UTC+1 No.15161520 Report

>>15161510
I'm not arguing whether or not you feel a change, but it really depends on what activities you partake in for you to notice any changes; if there are any.

>Meditation, lucid dreaming, paying attention to intuition, ect
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)20:00 UTC+1 No.15161537 Report

>>15161520
The only thing that changed was me being able to guess what emotions people are feeling behind thir "masks". Then again, I dont attribute it anything other than being around these kind of people long enough to finally get a grasp on things.

Used to lucid dream alot when I was younger, but toppe 4 yars ago. Funny enough, was able to fully control my dreams, but the more I did, the bigger migrane headache I would get, which would lead me to waking up. Would also always be able to wake up from any dream by imagining a wall and starting to bang my head into it. That too caused a huge migrane which would force me to wake up from said dreams, so I stopped doing both of those. Now, I can't do either.

Going off flouride (didn't do it for muh brain. General health benefits) didn't help me start doing those things again.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)20:02 UTC+1 No.15161545 Report

shouldn't using fluoridated toothpaste be alright so long as you rinse thoroughly?
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)20:10 UTC+1 No.15161571 Report

>>15161537
ah I see what you mean man. This can also be put down as just what u said, understand their cues, subtle emotions displayed via body posture/facial changes.

Well, if you really do want to lucid dream again there are a few different methods that may help you get there again; although what works for each person is different.
>Just takes practice!

Start writing a dream journal, do a "check" each day when u are awake to build up a habit (pinch yourself, check for a watch if u are awake and wear one, etc), there are many more methods but those work for me.

The main difference with myself/no-fluoride and dreaming, is that I've been able to recall my dreams easier in addition to controlling them more fluidly, which is really awesome to me.

I've never heard of the migraine issue and dreams, that's odd... this is going a bit off the kilter but it MAY had to do with the fluoride... because DMT is released by the pineal gland which stimulates/helps you shape your dreams.

>>15161545
I use fluorinated toothpaste, just don't use a bunch (use just enough), and you will be fine.
>It is absorbed in your skin, but it's a negligible amount

I take my iodine right after I brush in the morning though, so that's probably why there isn't a big difference.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)20:28 UTC+1 No.15161628 Report

>>15161214

>source???????
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)20:29 UTC+1 No.15161631 Report

>>15161505
D3 activates the proteins that require K2.
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)20:45 UTC+1 No.15161698 Report

>>15161631
legit, good to know man

>>15161628
google it, I'm not your nanny
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:58 UTC+1 No.15161921 Report

>>15161628
Quick someone get this man a peer reviewed paper so someone else can do the thinking for him and his brain can be at ease again
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Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:09 UTC+1 No.15161958 Report

I read a book when I was around 19/20 on lucid dreaming, I'm 27 now. I think it was by Stephen LeBarge. I got absolutely obsessed with it and taught myself how to lucid dream using the advice it gave. At my peak I was having a lucid dream almost every second night and to be quite honest, I fucking loved it. It was like having a second life that you pick up once you go to sleep, except you can control the world. These days I get about one every few months. I'm wondering if it's because my pineal gland has calcified, but as far as I know they don't add Fluoride to the water here (Scotland). My guess is it's just something you need to keep doing and keep thinking about. The more it's on your mind the more it's gonna happen. This thread has made me want to read the book again...

But as I said, living in a place that doesn't add fluoride to its water, i'm not really sure what else I can do to limit my intake. Maybe change toothpaste but that's about it. Unless I grow my own food, but fuck that
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:53 UTC+1 No.15162950 Report

>>15161958
What if I told you that through meditation you could become so lucid that you can be as conscious in your dreams as you currently are in "real life" if not more so.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)03:01 UTC+1 No.15162977 Report

This isn't really about the effects of flouride but it's still relevant. So I've been meditating for a while and I began to get that tingly pressure on the center of my forehead. Sometimes becomeing so intense my body starts to feel like my forehead. Anyway, so after a certain period of time I noticed I could basically recreate that feeling on my forehead at any time I wanted. I don't exactly know how to explain how I conjure it or whatever. It's basically like I'm moving a part of my body, you don't know how it moves it just does. Does anyone know what this is a sign of? I've been lurking /x/ for a while and so far there was only one similar type of situation but it dealt with AP. also I'm begin to notice auras more and more.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)03:06 UTC+1 No.15162995 Report

>>15161921
You think he should do his own peer reviewed papers for everything he wants to know about?
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)08:13 UTC+1 No.15164125 Report

>>15162977
This is the kshetram point of your pineal gland.
I've got a practice for you to try, keep it up and see what happens ;)

This practice is called Trataka and it is very powerful for bringing energy to the 3rd eye, is done daily you should crack open your 3rd eye a little in a few months.

Sit in a comfortable meditative asana, in a dark room in which there is no draught or breeze.
Place a lighted candle at eye level, directly in front of the eyebrow center, at a distance of approximately two feet.
Make sure that the wick is perfectly straight and that the flame is motionless.
Straighten the spine, close the eyes and relax the body.
Be aware of the physical body only. Let it become as still as a statue. From this time on you should try to keep the body absolutely motionless throughout the whole practice.
When you are prepared, open your eyes and gaze intently at the brightest part of the flame - just above the tip of the wick.
With practice you should be able to gaze at the flame for a few minutes, without blinking or moving the eyeballs.
Continue to gaze at the flame with total concentration.
The whole of your
consciousness must become centered in the flame, to the extent that awareness of the rest of the body and the room is lost.
The gaze should be absolutely fixed on one point.
When the eyes become tired (perhaps after a few minutes), or if they begin to water, close them and relax.
Do not move the body, but be aware of the after-image of the flame in front of the closed eyes.
Everyone has looked into the sun or a bright light, and on closing the eyes for a few minutes, has seen the clear impression of that light on the retina of the eye.
Likewise, the after-image of the candle flame will be clearly visible.
You should practise trataka on this image, holding it directly in front or a little above the eyebrow center.
As soon as it begins to fade, open the eyes again and continue to concentrate on the external candle flame.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)11:54 UTC+1 No.15164485 Report

>>15164125

Rigpa Yoga basically.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)11:58 UTC+1 No.15164490 Report

>>15162950
I would agree with you but also add that I achieved that very thing without meditation.

Like I said, I was lucid dreaming almost every other night and got there purely by keeping the subject of lucid dreaming on my mind. I joined a lucid dreaming forum and would read peoples stories every night. I carried out various tests for lucidity throughout the day. Eventually, during a dream, I performed one of the tests I had trained myself to perform during the day, and it failed. I think I counted the fingers on my hand. I counted 7 fingers and that's the second I realised it was a dream.

The feeling you get when realising it's a dream is unreal. It's like up until that point, the colours in the dream were white washed, the feelings and senses were dulled. Upon realisation, everything is magnified and becomes intense. Colours become bright and vivid, you feel aware of everything around you, senses are heightened. It was just a real as being awake. I'd think of all the experiments I told myself I'd try when I became lucid, and I'd try them one by one. Comparing the touch of the wooden frame of my door in my dream with how it feels when awake, searching for a spirit guide, things like that.

Anyway, I've never tried meditating before. I will give it a try to see if it makes any difference, but just wanted to share with you that in my experience it wasn't necessary to achieve lucidity in a dream
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)12:18 UTC+1 No.15164510 Report

>>15161252
what a fucking shill what does that have to do with anything?
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)12:27 UTC+1 No.15164523 Report

>>15161189
>>15161193
>smoke stack scrubbers
>aluminum factory run off
>uranium enrichment byproducts

>fluorine
>sodium fluoride
>aluminum fluoride
>extremely small amounts of calcium fluoride in nature

there is a difference. look it up.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)12:41 UTC+1 No.15164537 Report

>>15161189
>>15161227
>>15161232
>>15161193
>>15161213
>>15161214
>>15161227

I make my own toothpaste and deodorant to avoid fluoride and aluminum. youtube also has videos that show how.

deoderant:
>coconut oil
>arrowroot powder
>baking soda (read the ingredients, no aluminum)

I mix the baking soda/coconut oil/arrowroot powder until its a thick dry paste that is barely just almost a liquid, but still very dry.

I rub it on my underarms and it works better than any deoderant I have ever used in my entire life, and its incredibly cheaper.

toothpaste:
>coconut oil
>baking soda
>cinnamon

I mix some baking soda into some coconut oil until the baking soda is dissolved into it, less abrasive this way, and then add cinnamon to it until its a dark brown paste.

I feel like my mouth is cleaner than ever, and again this is cheaper than any toothpaste you could ever buy in the store.

when I go to the dentist to get a check up I eat a bunch of vitamin c rich fruit and a cup of very strong green tea before going. I let them do an Xray of my mouth, and I let them poke around with their tools and check for cavities, but I refuse the fluoride swish and I don't accept the cleaning with the little buzzing tool unless my teeth have alot of plaque which they never do anyway

I'm also getting into (and trying to get used to) shampooing and conditioning my hair with baking soda and then apple cider vinegar, and washing my body with a paste of arrow root powder/coconut oil/baking soda. (very little oil, low root powder, high baking soda)


I am Not a doctor or a dentist. Ask your doctor and dentist before doing anything.

>>15161323
I like spirulina. too much makes me sick though. I get mine organic (and honestly cheaper) from znaturalfoods.com or mountainroseherbs.com

>>15161339
haha guess where I get turmeric. ^

>>15161545
you can rinse for a long time and it doesn't get rid of it all

>>15164510
beware those that would withhold knowledge from you, they wish to be thy master.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)12:50 UTC+1 No.15164552 Report

>tfw living in a country with strict laws against water fluoridation
>tfw average fluoride content is 0.1mg/L country wide
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)12:50 UTC+1 No.15164553 Report

>>15164537
arrowroot powder at wholefoods btw. sorry if I didn't mention
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)14:40 UTC+1 No.15164768 Report

bumping thread
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)14:58 UTC+1 No.15164807 Report

>>15164552
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)15:22 UTC+1 No.15164866 Report

drink lemon juice

just try it for a while
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)15:35 UTC+1 No.15164910 Report

>>15164537
>some coconut oil
hope you have a geiger counter and use it on everything
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)15:36 UTC+1 No.15164915 Report

>>15164866
excellent for parasites
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)15:38 UTC+1 No.15164923 Report

>>15164915
also wormwood leaf or wormseed leaf
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:30 UTC+1 No.15165061 Report

>>15164910
this is the most pathetic shillpost I have ever seen.

>"oh no they made a recipe for (anything) that has no fluoride in it! better sarcastically imply that coconut oil is radioactive or something stupid"
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:32 UTC+1 No.15165066 Report

Honestly, why is this flouride shit on /x/ instead of /pol/?

Shitty public policy isn't paranormal.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:34 UTC+1 No.15165074 Report

>>15165066
the discussion of the terrible laws and policy that allow the government to medicate people without their consent is a good discussion to have on /pol/ but the discussion between the connection of how unsafe fluoride is in how it effects the pineal gland, pituitary gland, and other functions in the body than can result in screwed up melatonin and dmt production is a discussion for /x/

don't like the thread? hide it.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:39 UTC+1 No.15165086 Report

>>15165074

>glands, melanin and dmt is paranormal
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:41 UTC+1 No.15165089 Report

>>15165086
No but the things they imply at are what defines paranormal
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:44 UTC+1 No.15165097 Report

>>15165086
back to /pol/ with you
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:46 UTC+1 No.15165105 Report

>>15161189
asperger king
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:51 UTC+1 No.15165122 Report

>>15165097
if you love /pol/ so much why don't you go there?
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)16:52 UTC+1 No.15165129 Report

>>15165105
asperger for not wanting to be medicated without consent?

for wanting to have control over what goes into their body?
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)17:07 UTC+1 No.15165179 Report

>>15165129
asperger for your love of sonic
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)17:26 UTC+1 No.15165244 Report

>>15164537
>toothpaste:
>>coconut oil
>>baking soda
>>cinnamon
I would add calcite, arginine, and xylitol.

>baking soda is dissolved into it, less abrasive this way
The ADA lists baking soda's abrasiveity at 7, same as a tooth brush, and around 10x+ less than most commercial pastes.

>unless my teeth have alot of plaque
High vitamin C diets exhibit less plaque build up. Might as supplement it, buffering it with sodium bicarb.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)17:28 UTC+1 No.15165249 Report

>>15164866
>>15164915
D-lemonene content for liver function as well.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)17:35 UTC+1 No.15165260 Report

>>15165244
>I would add calcite, arginine, and xylitol.
completely unnecessary, yet the recipe can be modded by anyone. I heard someone added mint oil to either the deodorant or toothpaste.

I wouldn't recommend any changes to the recipe though.

if you do tell someone about it, tell them the cheapest and most basic form of the recipe.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)19:15 UTC+1 No.15165593 Report

>>15165260
>completely unnecessary
I won't argue. Ph neutralizer, anti-bacterial agent, and an astringent. However based upon the data I have seen with the rise in dental caries, and gum disease many people might need more.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)20:17 UTC+1 No.15165764 Report

>>15165593
the herbal fluoride free toothpastes usually have things like that in them already, but way more expensive.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)20:18 UTC+1 No.15165766 Report

>>15165764
*at wholefoods
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)21:22 UTC+1 No.15165992 Report

>>15161335
Fuck that, son. I'd sooner sell my soul than give up any of those.
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)22:09 UTC+1 No.15166176 Report

>>15161243
>implying you can't add other liquids to cake in place of water!?

fresh carrot juice? soymilk?
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Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)22:11 UTC+1 No.15166180 Report

>>15165992
be careful what you wish for, that is some terrible stuff.
alternatives exist:
>>15166176

also, spring water can help avoid.
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Anonymous 09/04/14(Thu)00:24 UTC+1 No.15166698 Report

>>15164490
That sounds amazing!
Apparently when you meditate you can open up your chakras, when you open up your chakras here you can start doing it "there"
And then the chakras becoming portals to different planes in the lucid realm this is where astral travel comes in
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Anonymous 09/04/14(Thu)00:26 UTC+1 No.15166703 Report

>>15164537
Awesome thank you sir my fluoride free toothpaste has run out then i'll be giving them a try :)
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